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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri 25 May 2018, 10:59 am

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Klopp, who doesn’t spend money, looking to spend 60m on Fekir to go with 50m Keita


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Post by Guest Sat 05 Jun 2021, 7:02 pm

westisbest wrote:We’ve been linked with McNeil and Buendia

Seems Villa have moved ahead of Arsenal in the pursuit of Buendia. Apparently, a £30m deal + add ons has been agreed by Villa.

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Post by westisbest Sat 05 Jun 2021, 7:39 pm

£35 mill I read.
One of the lads posted a thread by some Norwich fans titled ‘I hate villa’.

Some of the comments were quite amusing.
They didn’t like us when Lambert left them, now they are at it again.

You weren’t one of them were you olly Wink

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Post by Galted Sat 05 Jun 2021, 9:41 pm

westisbest wrote:£35 mill I read.
One of the lads posted a thread by some Norwich fans titled ‘I hate villa’.

Some of the comments were quite amusing.
They didn’t like us when Lambert left them, now they are at it again.

You weren’t one of them were you olly Wink

I've seen some quality vitriol from Arsenal fans. Prefer being hated than laughed at.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 05 Jun 2021, 10:14 pm

To be fair I am a tad surprised Buendia himself isn't holding out for a move to a club playing European football, but for us as a club doesn't matter where the money is coming from - the Athletic and Telegraph both reporting £33m up front, with a further £5m in add ons and a sell on clause as well...decent for both sides.

Norwich twitter (and message boards as you've noticed Westi!) have gone into a meltdown, but it was fairly obvious last year was his last for us, he wanted to leave last summer. Excited to see how we reinvest the money
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Post by westisbest Sun 06 Jun 2021, 8:55 am

Yeah some of the comments were basically why villa and not a European club. Apart from ourselves and arsenal, how many other clubs were in for him?


We offered more money than arsenal from what I gather.
Money speaks volumes in football as we all know.

He will be a good addition to the club.
The owners have said we are not going to buy to many this summer.
Once Buendia Is over the line, then that’s a good start.

The plus side of Norwich fans not being happy is a sign that he is a quality player.

Be an improvement on the likes of Trezeguet and El Ghazi I’m sure.

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Post by Guest Sun 06 Jun 2021, 10:34 am

Arsenal looking at Reuben Neves from Wolves for £34m

PSG signing Wijnaldum

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 06 Jun 2021, 2:51 pm

Villa after Ward-Prowse.

People seem to forget they’re bankrolled now. I would imagine rather than spending the Grealish money, this is them trying to prove to him they have ambition to match his.

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Post by Guest Mon 07 Jun 2021, 10:34 pm

PSG expected to complete the signing of Gianluigi Donnarumma on a free transfer

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 09 Jun 2021, 4:04 pm

Norwich signing Angus Gunn from Southampton for around £5m
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Post by Guest Thu 17 Jun 2021, 10:53 am

Fikayo Tomori has joined AC Milan for £24m
Ashley Young going back to Aston Villa
Gianluigi Buffon signs for Parma
Memphis Depay signs for Barcelona

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 Jun 2021, 4:09 pm

Norwich signed some bloke called Milot Rashica (no idea, if anyone does let me know)

Apparently close to announcing Angus Gunn, and leading the chase for Billy Gilmour on loan and Kristoffer Ajer from Celtic
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Post by Lowlandbrit Tue 22 Jun 2021, 5:08 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Norwich signed some bloke called Milot Rashica (no idea, if anyone does let me know)
Kosovan winger who I really liked the look of when he played in Holland. Just had the ability to make things happen, haven't followed him since though.

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Post by westisbest Tue 22 Jun 2021, 11:19 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Norwich signed some bloke called Milot Rashica (no idea, if anyone does let me know)
Kosovan winger who I really liked the look of when he played in Holland. Just had the ability to make things happen, haven't followed him since though.

Villa were after him last Summer.
Meant to be decent enough.

21 in 87 for Werder Bremen.

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Post by GSC Thu 24 Jun 2021, 3:17 pm

Arsenal paying 50m for Ben White apparently
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Post by JDizzle Thu 24 Jun 2021, 3:54 pm

GSC wrote:Arsenal paying 50m for Ben White apparently

Shrewd business by Chelsea managing to only get £25m for Tomori…

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Post by GSC Thu 24 Jun 2021, 4:53 pm

Wasn't the fee negotiated into the loan agreement
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Post by JDizzle Thu 24 Jun 2021, 6:34 pm

Yeah, Chelsea had no option this summer. Inserting a comically low one in the first place on a last minute loan deal was the error, when the new manager had 0 sessions with him.

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Post by Guest Fri 25 Jun 2021, 10:47 am

westisbest wrote:According to inside reports Grealish is not going anywhere this summer.

£100m to City is apparently agreed, to happen after the Euro’s. Anything in that region, is a brilliant fee for Villa. He’s good, but not that good.

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Post by Guest Fri 25 Jun 2021, 4:58 pm

Seems like Manchester United are finally set to sign Jadon Sancho. Seems like the fee is around £73m + £4m in add ons. Everything being equal United saved around £30m by waiting one more year.

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Post by Galted Fri 25 Jun 2021, 5:52 pm

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westisbest wrote:According to inside reports Grealish is not going anywhere this summer.

£100m to City is apparently agreed, to happen after the Euro’s. Anything in that region, is a brilliant fee for Villa. He’s good, but not that good.

I'd be surprised if he went now, with Villa continuing to improve and having only just signed a new contract.

Might end up having to move to City get into the England XI for the World Cup if Southgate is still in charge.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 25 Jun 2021, 5:59 pm

Surely Grealish will want to go to City? It may be the only chance he gets at playing Champions League football.

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Post by westisbest Fri 25 Jun 2021, 11:09 pm

Galted wrote:
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westisbest wrote:According to inside reports Grealish is not going anywhere this summer.

£100m to City is apparently agreed, to happen after the Euro’s. Anything in that region, is a brilliant fee for Villa. He’s good, but not that good.

I'd be surprised if he went now, with Villa continuing to improve and having only just signed a new contract.

Might end up having to move to City get into the England XI for the World Cup if Southgate is still in charge.

Owners have said he’s not going anywhere. They want to build a team around him.
If he did we’d want more than £100m.

If he goes to City, be shocked if he plays every week.


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Post by Atila Sat 26 Jun 2021, 8:12 pm

Duty281 wrote:Surely Grealish will want to go to City? It may be the only chance he gets at playing Champions League football.
Imagine how much more it would mean if he stayed at Villa and helped them to play Champions League Football.

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Post by GSC Sat 26 Jun 2021, 8:18 pm

Imagine how much more it would mean if he won the world cup with Aston Villa
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Post by Atila Sat 26 Jun 2021, 8:19 pm

GSC wrote:Imagine how much more it would mean if he won the world cup with Aston Villa
You must mean the World Club Championship. Yes, it would be a greater accomplishment if he could do it with Villa rather than be running off and jumping on the City bandwagon.

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Post by westisbest Sat 26 Jun 2021, 8:30 pm

Atila wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Surely Grealish will want to go to City? It may be the only chance he gets at playing Champions League football.
Imagine how much more it would mean if he stayed at Villa and helped them to play Champions League Football.

That’s what he’s hoping for. May take a while though.
Hopefully we will be pushing for a European spot next season.

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Post by Atila Sat 26 Jun 2021, 8:44 pm

westisbest wrote:
Atila wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Surely Grealish will want to go to City? It may be the only chance he gets at playing Champions League football.
Imagine how much more it would mean if he stayed at Villa and helped them to play Champions League Football.

That’s what he’s hoping for. May take a while though.
Hopefully we will be pushing for a European spot next season.
Just one more win for West Ham and they would have done it this season, so it's certainly possible for Villa.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 26 Jun 2021, 8:56 pm

Atila wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Surely Grealish will want to go to City? It may be the only chance he gets at playing Champions League football.
Imagine how much more it would mean if he stayed at Villa and helped them to play Champions League Football.

It would mean more, but it's very unlikely to happen. And even if Villa did get to the Champions League in the next few years they'd be unlikely to make it past the group stages. Grealish is only guaranteed CL football if he goes to City.

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Post by Galted Sat 26 Jun 2021, 9:23 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Atila wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Surely Grealish will want to go to City? It may be the only chance he gets at playing Champions League football.
Imagine how much more it would mean if he stayed at Villa and helped them to play Champions League Football.

It would mean more, but it's very unlikely to happen. And even if Villa did get to the Champions League in the next few years they'd be unlikely to make it past the group stages. Grealish is only guaranteed CL football if he goes to City.

Wouldn't describe it as 'very unlikely' at all, certainly no more than the likes of Leicester, Man City or even Chelsea, all who'd done far less than Villa historically until the money arrived.  Not suggesting it will happen but no reason to assert it won't either.

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Post by GSC Sat 26 Jun 2021, 9:31 pm

Well yeah, but Leicester are an extreme outlier and Villa aren't recruiting on the scale of relative investment those teams received.

Could it happen, sure. But not sure you can say there's a massively realistic chance of it as things stand.
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Post by westisbest Sat 26 Jun 2021, 10:30 pm

Abraham linked with Villa today for £40m.
If we were to get him. Be another good signing in this window.

Alveraz from River Plate linked. Smith-Rowe and Ward-Prowse amongst the other names. We’re not going to sign all those I’m sure.

Abraham would be quality if he returned.
Don’t know much about Alveraz other than he’s highly rated.

Owners want champions league football. A way off it yet, but certainly going in the right direction.

Certainly an exciting summer so far at Villa.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 27 Jun 2021, 9:13 am

Galted wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Atila wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Surely Grealish will want to go to City? It may be the only chance he gets at playing Champions League football.
Imagine how much more it would mean if he stayed at Villa and helped them to play Champions League Football.

It would mean more, but it's very unlikely to happen. And even if Villa did get to the Champions League in the next few years they'd be unlikely to make it past the group stages. Grealish is only guaranteed CL football if he goes to City.

Wouldn't describe it as 'very unlikely' at all, certainly no more than the likes of Leicester, Man City or even Chelsea, all who'd done far less than Villa historically until the money arrived.  Not suggesting it will happen but no reason to assert it won't either.

I’m not sure how Villa being good in the 1980’s has any relevance to them qualifying for the champions league in the 2020’s
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Post by Galted Sun 27 Jun 2021, 10:08 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Galted wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Atila wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Surely Grealish will want to go to City? It may be the only chance he gets at playing Champions League football.
Imagine how much more it would mean if he stayed at Villa and helped them to play Champions League Football.

It would mean more, but it's very unlikely to happen. And even if Villa did get to the Champions League in the next few years they'd be unlikely to make it past the group stages. Grealish is only guaranteed CL football if he goes to City.

Wouldn't describe it as 'very unlikely' at all, certainly no more than the likes of Leicester, Man City or even Chelsea, all who'd done far less than Villa historically until the money arrived.  Not suggesting it will happen but no reason to assert it won't either.

I’m not sure how Villa being good in the 1980’s has any relevance to them qualifying for the champions league in the 2020’s

I never said it did. I was pointing out how teams with little to no history have achieved due to money being injected into the club and asking why the same shouldn't happen with Villa. A few posters on here seem to be trying desperately to convince themselves that it can't happen.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 27 Jun 2021, 10:20 am

Sure, it could happen that Villa suddenly find themselves with the transfer budget of City or Chelsea, but you can't rely on that and it's extremely unlikely in itself to happen.

Villa are a fair distance from the top four clubs and they're very unlikely to make it up in the 5/6 seasons left of Grealish's career at the top-level.

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Post by GSC Sun 27 Jun 2021, 10:30 am

City and Chelsea received vast sums of money that blew everyone else out of the water comparatively and immediately catapulted them towards the top places in the PL.

I mean City were signing players like Robinho, Adebayor and Tevez while Villas big signing to date came from the Championship.

Again this isn't to say Villa can't achieve those heights, but you can't just point at City and Chelsea as an example of spending money when Villa are not spending anything like the kind of money those clubs had to (adjusting for the time) to catapult themselves into that position.
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Post by westisbest Sun 27 Jun 2021, 10:32 am

We certainly have the money to go to spend. So the owners have said.
Maybe not on the scale of Man City or Chelsea.
We’re a club moving forward. Jack stays and we improve the squad in the next few seasons, I don’t see any reason we can’t push for a top 4 spot.


We have to be achieving top 6 on a regular basis to push for a top four. Hopefully that will happen.
Be happy if we can finish in the top 8 next season.
Improvement and step on the right direction.

One step at a time though.

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Post by GSC Sun 27 Jun 2021, 10:52 am

Easy to say but who are Villa pushing out of the top 4. Or even below that group. Quite a few teams who could say they're placed to do similar

But this is getting a bit off topic. Ultimately if you're Jack Grealish, and want to be playing at the highest level, a choice between one of the best clubs in the world already at that level, or a mid table club with aspirations, it's not a massively hard call
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Post by westisbest Sun 27 Jun 2021, 11:11 am

First aim is top 6. So you have to challenge the teams also aiming for that.
Leicester, West Ham, spurs, arsenal, Everton.


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Post by GSC Thu 01 Jul 2021, 1:02 pm

After about 12 months of buildup, United have actually signed Sancho
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Post by Guest Thu 01 Jul 2021, 1:16 pm

Ryan Bertrand signing for Leicester City. Tidy pick up

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Post by Fluxy Thu 01 Jul 2021, 1:53 pm

The Foxes have also picked up Patson Daka for £23m too, that potentially is another shrewd bit of business.

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Post by BamBam Thu 01 Jul 2021, 2:22 pm

GSC wrote:After about 12 months of buildup, United have actually signed Sancho

They kept that one quiet

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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 01 Jul 2021, 2:32 pm

GSC wrote:After about 12 months of buildup, United have actually signed Sancho

Saved them over £30mil by waiting a year so makes sense from a financial point of view. I'm not entirely sure he's the play they need to push on to the next level.

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Post by GSC Thu 01 Jul 2021, 2:39 pm

A better holding midfielder and centre back should push them closer I think
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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 01 Jul 2021, 2:42 pm

Sancho is potentially a big upgrade on Martial, the Bundesliga is quite weak overall so I don't think it's a given that he'll be a success back in England however. Centre back is the big one but then most teams are in the same boat.

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Post by Guest Thu 01 Jul 2021, 3:12 pm

Looking like Raphael Varane could be heading to Manchester United. Fee being suggested is around €50m. Seems a bargain for an outstanding CB.

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Post by GSC Thu 01 Jul 2021, 3:32 pm

1 year away from walking as a FA and Real need cash to chase Mbappe
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Post by Guest Thu 01 Jul 2021, 4:52 pm

Sergio Ramos will join PSG on two year deal.

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Post by Luke Sat 03 Jul 2021, 3:23 am

Leicester 

Sign midfielder Boubakary Soumare from Lille for £17 million.  

Man Utd sign Tom Heaton from Villa.
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Post by Guest Sat 03 Jul 2021, 4:09 pm

Boubakary Soumaré, Ryan Bertrand & Patson Daka. Rodgers means business, although I do wonder if maybe they know they might lose Tielemens at some point this summer.

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