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Post by GeordieFalcon Fri 26 Mar 2021, 2:25 am

First topic message reminder :

After an "interesting" 6n...and with the Lions tour possibly going ahead, England have a chance to send a young Saxons side full of talent on the Summer tour to USA and Canada (if Covid permits)

They have 4 games pencilled in...

12th June; England v Barbarians (Suggestions it wont go ahead)

10th July; Scotland v England
17th July; USA v England
24th July; Canada v England

So looking to the future and the AI's who would you take on the tour? Assuming its 32/33 squad size.

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Post by Mr Bounce Tue 13 Jul 2021, 6:08 am

Yes, the Nick Easter game was in August 2007 - he played No8 alongside Martin Corry & Joe Worsley. It was a bit of a mismatch - the pack was pretty much full strength whereas Wales' was less so. AWJ was playing 6 that day and was yellow-carded. Was it his now infamous "trip" moment?

Even Shaun Perry scored a try.

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Post by lostinwales Tue 13 Jul 2021, 6:46 am

I am sure the trip was a 6n game but could be wrong

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Post by cb Tue 13 Jul 2021, 6:55 am

I think the answer is very nuanced because it depends on both the current strength of the incumbent and the potential of the new comers.  So really needing to compare existing with new, and should we also include players who are injured or just coming back such as Launchbury and Nowell (Willis is long-term injury but was just starting to look good).  Genge is both an incumbent and a newbie.

A case might be argued for Dombrandt on the basis that Vunipola is nowhere near as effective as a few years ago (this would also give a line-out option).  Smith over Ford is an interesting choice.  I think Ford is good player who has not been able to play well recently.

Otherwise Steward over Daly but difficult to justify Randall or Robson over Youngs mainly because there was so little game time.

Probably stronger opposition would have helped.

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Post by mikey_dragon Tue 13 Jul 2021, 6:56 am

Easter scoring three tries and AWJ at blindside was a world cup warm-up, the Gareth Jenkins era was a sad time.

The trip was in a 6N game at Twickers, maybe 2010.

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Post by Mr Bounce Tue 13 Jul 2021, 7:14 am

mikey_dragon wrote:Easter scoring three tries and AWJ at blindside was a world cup warm-up, the Gareth Jenkins era was a sad time.

The trip was in a 6N game at Twickers, maybe 2010.

Excellent memory Mikey - just looked it up on YouTube. Awful commentator....

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Post by No 7&1/2 Today at 6:02 pm

What are peoples thought on Daly in the centre then? Didn't get many passes due to the game plan but did he impress enough for a run out in the autumn?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Today at 7:10 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:What are peoples thought on Daly in the centre then? Didn't get many passes due to the game plan but did he impress enough for a run out in the autumn?

No. Out of position defensively, got bullied in contact. SA should have targeted him more. He's got a good skill set and can play across the backline but maybe not to international standard. It looks likely that his days at 15 are numbered and the return to 13 is a no go. It might be wing or nothing by the Autumn.

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