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SOUTH AFRICA BRITISH & IRISH LIONS
Saturday 24 July
KO: 18:00 SAST / 17:00 UK / 20:00 Dubai  Very Happy
Cape Town Stadium (Newlands), Cape Town
Sky Sports Main Event

Referee: Nic Berry (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Ben O’Keeffe, Mathieu Raynal
TMO: Marius Bloody Jonker of all people

TEAMS:

SOUTH AFRICA:
15 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 62 caps, 60 pts (12t)
14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse) – 14 caps, 40 pts (8t)
13 – Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 15 caps, 15 pts (3t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Munster) – 47 caps, 30 pts (6t)
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 14 caps, 70 pts (14t)
10 – Handré Pollard (vice-captain – Montpellier) – 49 caps, 465pts (6t, 78c, 89p, 4d)
09 – Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks) – 30 caps, 20 pts (4t)

08 – Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo) – 7 caps, 5 pts (1t)
07 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Stormers) – 56 caps, 25 pts (5t)
06 – Siya Kolisi (captain – Cell C Sharks) – 51 caps, 30 pts (6t)
05 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 40 caps, 5pts (1t)
04 – Eben Etzebeth (Toulon) – 86 caps, 15 pts (3t)
03 – Trevor Nyakane (Vodacom Bulls) – 43 caps, 5 pts (1t)
02 – Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers) – 37 caps, 40 pts (8t)
01 – Ox Nché (Cell C Sharks) – 2 caps, 0 pts

16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 34 caps, 30 pts (6t)
17 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 48 caps, 5pts (1t)
18 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 39 caps, 5pts (1t)
19 – Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks) – 45 caps, 25 pts (5t)
20 – Rynhardt Elstadt (Toulouse) – 2 caps, 0 pts
21 – Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers) – 11 caps, 25 pts (5t)
22 – Elton Jantjies (Pau) – 38 caps, 283 pts (2t, 63c, 49p)
23 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 7 caps, 5pts (1t)

BRITISH & IRISH LIONS:
15. Stuart Hogg (Exeter, Scotland) #783
14. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England) #816
13. Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822
12. Robbie Henshaw (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #824
11. Duhan van der Merwe (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #841
10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) #821
09. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) #843

01. Rory Sutherland (Worcester, Scotland) #840
02. Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter, England) #851
03. Tadhg Furlong (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #818
04. Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825
05. Alun Wyn Jones (C) (Ospreys, Wales) #761
06. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, England) #826
07. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, England) #853
08. Jack Conan (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #839

16. Ken Owens (Scarlets, Wales) #829
17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, England) #787
18. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814
19. Tadhg Beirne (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #838
20. Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland) #847
21. Conor Murray (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #790
22. Owen Farrell (Saracens, England) #780
23. Liam Williams (Scarlets, Wales) #833

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:36 pm

Ref not being consistent with that advantage. Occasion getting to him?

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Post by Old Man Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:37 pm

Lions will test the bok scrum here

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Post by Old Man Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:38 pm

Yeah Curry a tad illegal there

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:39 pm

Urgh. Really need to kick those.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:39 pm

We’re struggling.

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Post by Heuer27 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:41 pm

Lions forwards are not giving a platform for their backs so far.

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Post by Old Man Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:41 pm

Jines was 12 inches off the ground there, how can that be high?

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Post by king_carlos Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:42 pm

That was a perfect angle to put in the corner as well. A bad miss.

Lions not really at the races in the last 20 minutes.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:42 pm

Very poor refereeing performance so far.

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Post by Old Man Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:42 pm

OK 24 inches, still very low

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:43 pm

Old Man wrote:Jines was 12 inches off the ground there, how can that be high?

Because the tackle was above the shoulder.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:44 pm

Awful by Henshaw.

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Post by Old Man Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:45 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
Old Man wrote:Jines was 12 inches off the ground there, how can that be high?

Because the tackle was above the shoulder.

Yes I know that, but hell, Jones was lower than Mbonambi’s hip. Are you supposed to jump on the bloke when he is that low?

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:46 pm

This feels like the England World Cup final. We aren't out of the game but we have shown no signs of getting in it.

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Post by Old Man Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:46 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Awful by Henshaw.

Ball knocked out by Le Roux in the tackle

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:46 pm

Old Man wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
Old Man wrote:Jines was 12 inches off the ground there, how can that be high?

Because the tackle was above the shoulder.

Yes I know that, but hell, Jones was lower than Mbonambi’s hip. Are you supposed to jump on the bloke when he is that low?

He gathered low anyway and didn't duck down because of that you've got to alter your tackle. He wasn't massively low it wasn't like the tackles you see around the try line hence to me right call.

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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:46 pm

Old Man wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
Old Man wrote:Jines was 12 inches off the ground there, how can that be high?

Because the tackle was above the shoulder.

Yes I know that, but hell, Jones was lower than Mbonambi’s hip. Are you supposed to jump on the bloke when he is that low?

Either way you don't tackle round the neck.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:48 pm

Yikes bad first half.

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Post by Old Man Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:50 pm

Not much in this at the moment, any team can take this.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:50 pm

This is not good viewing, we're just so lacklustre. Itoje aside, nobody is playing that great. SA aren't really even trying to attack...they don't need to.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:50 pm

Lions comfortably second best, litany of individual errors costing them. Fortunate to only be 9 points down.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:51 pm

Old Man wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Awful by Henshaw.

Ball knocked out by Le Roux in the tackle

Well tackled by him and knocked on while carrying one handed.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:51 pm

I could see Murray and/or Farrell on early in the second half. It'd be harsh on Price as I think he's been pretty good but the Lions need some direction.

I'd personally bring Bierne on for AWJ as well. I am an AWJ fan and have been for a long time but he understandably seems a touch off the pace after the shoulder dislocation and limited game time to get match fitness.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:52 pm

Jones off for Beirne, Conan for Watson, Daly for Farrell?

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Post by Heuer27 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:53 pm

Set piece is a huge problem. No platform. Cheap penalties , and no pressure without the ball giving away possession far too easily. It a bit of a disaster tbh.

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Post by flyhalffactory Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:56 pm

So 7&1/2, it seems Itoje has 2 TOs
Ok?
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Post by TightHEAD Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:58 pm

Not in the game, Bigger Price not working.
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Post by TightHEAD Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:58 pm

SCW would do a better job.
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Post by BamBam Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:59 pm

Itoje has 3. 1st nicking the ball off Faf on the near touchline around 30m from our line, 2nd at the far touchline after the Lawes tackle and 3rd when Faf was the only one trying to move him 10m from our line

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 24 Jul 2021, 5:59 pm

Pretty poor game from the Lions.  

Price is ponderous.  
Mangled at breakdown.
Biggar ineffectual
Henshaw carrying in one hand.  
Hogg is over eager
Is Captain Fantastic even on the pitch?
What was Cowan Dickie thinking?
Erasmus looks like he’s put on a few stone as a water boy
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:00 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:This is not good viewing, we're just so lacklustre. Itoje aside, nobody is playing that great. SA aren't really even trying to attack...they don't need to.

Lawes is barely in the game, he's jogging round like it's a pre season friendly. AWJ also struggling to make an impact and is starting to play closer and closer to the edge. Was lucky not to give away a penalty just before the half for swimming down the side of the maul. 

I'd be looking to replace one or both early in the second half, particularly with a player the calibre or Beirne on the bench.

I wonder if Dan Cole might get a more lenient view of his RWC Final performance given the Lions scrum is very much up against it with this SA pack even without the retired Beast.

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Post by Old Man Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:00 pm

I am surprised the Lions didn’t do better in the scrums. Soon Kitshoff, Marx and Malherbe will come on

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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:00 pm

BamBam wrote:Itoje has 3. 1st nicking the ball off Faf on the near touchline around 30m from our line, 2nd at the far touchline after the Lawes tackle and 3rd when Faf was the only one trying to move him 10m from our line

Exactly, don't let facts get in the way.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:01 pm

BamBam wrote:Itoje has 3. 1st nicking the ball off Faf on the near touchline around 30m from our line, 2nd at the far touchline after the Lawes tackle and 3rd when Faf was the only one trying to move him 10m from our line

Yeah? They've just shown all 3. Only forward really earning his crust at the moment. Curry trying but not being overly helped by that back row. It's like watching England! LCD and Furlong have been guys on form but not really working yet.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:01 pm

At this rate, a few players need to hope Gatland will keep them on to make amends, or they won't be starting the second test.


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Post by TightHEAD Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:03 pm

Get Marcus Smith on!!!! If only.


We need something different or we lose this game without SA have to do F all.
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:05 pm

Lineout won but poor throw by LCD.

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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:05 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
BamBam wrote:Itoje has 3. 1st nicking the ball off Faf on the near touchline around 30m from our line, 2nd at the far touchline after the Lawes tackle and 3rd when Faf was the only one trying to move him 10m from our line

Yeah? They've just shown all 3. Only forward really earning his crust at the moment. Curry trying but not being overly helped by that back row. It's like watching England! LCD and Furlong have been guys on form but not really working yet.

Lawes is making his tackles as expected but so would Watson whilst being a bigger breakdown threat.

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Post by flyhalffactory Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:06 pm

BamBam wrote:Itoje has 3. 1st nicking the ball off Faf on the near touchline around 30m from our line, 2nd at the far touchline after the Lawes tackle and 3rd when Faf was the only one trying to move him 10m from our line

He has not, don't be ridiculous
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Post by Old Man Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:07 pm

These high tackles are becoming a joke

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:07 pm

Get in.

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Post by BamBam Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:07 pm

flyhalffactory wrote:
BamBam wrote:Itoje has 3. 1st nicking the ball off Faf on the near touchline around 30m from our line, 2nd at the far touchline after the Lawes tackle and 3rd when Faf was the only one trying to move him 10m from our line

He has not, don't be ridiculous

Laugh Laugh OK pal

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Post by Duty281 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:08 pm

Blimey, game on.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:09 pm

Nice Biggar.

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Post by Old Man Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:09 pm

Le Roux ahead of the kick

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:09 pm

Missed that great turnover by Curry being played in the floor and leads to that.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:10 pm

Pass forward before what looked like offside.

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Post by flyhalffactory Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:10 pm

Get in there LCD
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Post by RiscaGame Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:11 pm

Think forward pass first too

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Post by BamBam Sat 24 Jul 2021, 6:11 pm

Thought that pass was forward

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