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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Jul 2021, 9:09 am

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SOUTH AFRICA A v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS
Wednesday 14 July
KO: 20:00 SAST / 19:00 UK / 22:00 Dubai  Very Happy
Cape Town Stadium (Newlands), Cape Town
Sky Sports Main Event

Referee: Jaco Peyper
Assistant Referees: Wayne Barnes, AJ Jacobs
TMO: Marius Jonker

TEAMS:

SOUTH AFRICA A:
15 – Willie le Roux
14 – Cheslin Kolbe
13 – Lukhanyo Am (captain)
12 – Damian de Allende
11 – Sbu Nkosi
10 – Morné Steyn
9 – Faf de Klerk

8 – Jasper Wiese
7 – Pieter-Steph du Toit
6 – Marco van Staden
5 – Franco Mostert
4 – Eben Etzebeth
3 – Trevor Nyakane
2 – Joseph Dweba
1 – Steven Kitshoff

Replacements (from):
16 – Malcolm Marx
17 – Coenie Oosthuizen
18 – Vincent Koch
19 – Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg
20 – Rynhardt Elstadt
21 – Herschel Jantjies
22 – Jesse Kriel
23 – Damian Willemse
24 – Kwagga Smith
25 – Elton Jantjies

BRITISH & IRISH LIONS:
15. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England) #816
14. Louis Rees-Zammit (Gloucester Rugby, Wales) #846
13. Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland) #844
12. Bundee Aki (Connacht Rugby, Ireland) #837
11. Josh Adams (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) #836
10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) #821
9. Conor Murray – captain (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #790

1. Wyn Jones (Scarlets, Wales) #842
2. Ken Owens (Scarlets, Wales) #829
3. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814
4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825
5. Iain Henderson (Ulster Rugby, Ireland) #808
6. Josh Navidi (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) #854
7. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, England) #853
8. Taulupe Faletau (Bath Rugby, Wales) #779

16. Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, England) #851
17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, England) #787
18. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) #848
19. Adam Beard (Ospreys, Wales) #852
20. Tadhg Beirne (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #838
21. Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, England) #849
22. Gareth Davies (Scarlets, Wales) #850
23. Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822

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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Jul 2021, 9:12 am

I have just started this thread on the working assumption that this is the most likely fixture.

I have assumed that the referee rotation will be as previously advertised.

Can I start this thread with Rugby Fan's excellent 'table of minutes played to date':
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Post by Old Man Sun 11 Jul 2021, 9:13 am

George, there is a rumour that the Stormers and SA A mathces might be swopped around, will check it out.

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Post by Old Man Sun 11 Jul 2021, 9:14 am

Oh, sorry, you got it right, I am behind the times

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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Jul 2021, 9:15 am

Old Man wrote:Oh, sorry, you got it right, I am behind the times
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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 11 Jul 2021, 9:55 am

Old Man wrote:George, there is a rumour that the Stormers and SA A mathces might be swopped around, will check it out.

The reason being?

Not great. I bet Gatland wanted a host of test players for SA ‘a’ but they all need rest.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 11 Jul 2021, 10:24 am

Kolisi now isolating with covid.

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Post by RDW Sun 11 Jul 2021, 10:30 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
Old Man wrote:George, there is a rumour that the Stormers and SA A mathces might be swopped around, will check it out.

The reason being?

Not great. I bet Gatland wanted a host of test players for SA ‘a’ but they all need rest.

I think the issue is the A team would be made up of the wider Springbok training squad, and they're all currently isolating.

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Post by Guest Sun 11 Jul 2021, 11:15 am

Ian McGeechan’s Test XV based on performances so far:

McGeechan’s Lions Test XV:
15 Liam Williams
14 Anthony Watson
13 Chris Harris
12 Owen Farrell
11 Josh Adams
10 Dan Biggar
9 Conor Murray (capt)
1 Rory Sutherland
2 Jamie George
3 Tadhg Furlong
4 Maro Itoje
5 Iain Henderson
6 Tadhg Beirne
7 Hamish Watson
8 Taulupe Faletau

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/major-names-culled-in-mcgeechans-latest-lions-xv/?fbclid=IwAR3oJ-LxJ4AZku44hMo9t6NUbEI8h4ovU2HEqagc2lpcT9rkWnnLWj4whgU

I think I’d prefer Ali Price at 9, Hogg at FB, VDM instead of Watson, and perhaps not Faletau at 8 unless he can show a lot more. The rest is there or thereabouts for me. Any of the hookers would be fine for me. Don’t think Wyn Jones would be bad at LH but I like Sutherland too.

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Post by BigGee Sun 11 Jul 2021, 11:25 am

https://twitter.com/lionsofficial/status/1414162551387136000

Nice bit of football banter going on!

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Post by BigGee Sun 11 Jul 2021, 12:06 pm

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1414128090083696641


It looks like the Covid is absolutely rampant in the Boks squad, they are really going to struggle to be ready for these test matches!

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Post by BigGee Sun 11 Jul 2021, 2:11 pm

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15558712/nelson-mandela-sprringboks-covid-lions/

Well it seems the Boks are bring in Rory Steyn, dad of the Glasgow and Scotland player, to help get a grip on their Covid bubble.

He was at one stage, in charge of Mandela's security, so you would imagine is well respected.

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Post by doctor_grey Sun 11 Jul 2021, 9:14 pm

BigGee wrote:https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1414128090083696641


It looks like the Covid is absolutely rampant in the Boks squad, they are really going to struggle to be ready for these test matches!
Even if they recover and test negative, Covid-19 can cause damage to the lungs which can last for months.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 11 Jul 2021, 9:52 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
BigGee wrote:https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1414128090083696641


It looks like the Covid is absolutely rampant in the Boks squad, they are really going to struggle to be ready for these test matches!
Even if they recover and test negative, Covid-19 can cause damage to the lungs which can last for months.  

A good friend is a U23 British rower that many thought had Olympics potential. He got covid early on in the pandemic last year and still hasn't recovered his fitness back to where it was. I feel so bad for the bloke. Rowing is often referred to as being a sport where coaches look for 'lungs and legs'. Legs move the boat and lungs keep the legs moving.

He's still absolutely killing himself training up to 12 times a week as rowers at that level do but if his erg (rowing machine) scores stay where they are currently (much lower than pre covid) then his sporting career will be over before it really began. Brutal.

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Post by Old Man Mon 12 Jul 2021, 8:21 am

Wednesdays match will be vs SA A

See Article

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Post by RDW Mon 12 Jul 2021, 10:07 am


Warren Gatland, has named his Lions team to play South Africa ‘A’ at Cape Town Stadium on Wednesday 14 July (kick off 7pm BST).

Tour captain Conor Murray (Munster, Ireland) is named skipper of a starting XV which has 12 changes to the team that defeated Cell C Sharks 31-71 at Loftus Versfeld on Saturday evening, with Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England), Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland) and Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) the only players retained.

Watson shifts from right wing to fullback with Harris moving to 13 where he is joined in midfield by Bundee Aki (Connacht Rugby, Ireland). Biggar will again start at fly-half.

The game against South Africa ‘A’ will be shown live and exclusively on Sky Sports and is the fourth match in an eight-game Series culminating in the three Tests against World Champions, the Springboks.

“We’re pleased to have arrived in Cape Town as we near the halfway stage of the Series,” said Gatland.


“Wednesday’s game against South Africa ‘A’ will be our toughest encounter since we arrived here and we’re looking forward to it. We expect them to be physical in the contact area and look to test us at scrum time.”

“I think we’ve benefitted from playing at altitude in the first three games. While the boys have felt it in their lungs, they’ll be all the better for it now we’re at sea level.

“As we move towards the business end of the Tour, it’s pleasing to see so many players putting in some stand-out performances. As coaches we want the players to make Test selection as hard as possible and that’s we’re seeing.”

SOUTH AFRICA ‘A’ v THE BRITISH & IRISH LIONS

15. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England) #816

14. Louis Rees-Zammit (Gloucester Rugby, Wales) #846

13. Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland) #844

12. Bundee Aki (Connacht Rugby, Ireland) #837

11. Josh Adams (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) #836

10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) #821

9. Conor Murray – captain (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #790

1. Wyn Jones (Scarlets, Wales) #842

2. Ken Owens (Scarlets, Wales) #829

3. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814

4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825

5. Iain Henderson (Ulster Rugby, Ireland) #808

6. Josh Navidi (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) #854

7. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, England) #853

8 .Taulupe Faletau (Bath Rugby, Wales) #779

Replacements:

16. Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, England) #851

17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, England) #787

18. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) #848

19. Adam Beard (Ospreys, Wales) #852

20. Tadhg Beirne (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #838

21. Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, England) #849

22. Gareth Davies (Scarlets, Wales) #850

23. Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822

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Post by RDW Mon 12 Jul 2021, 10:10 am

Looking at the team selections since arriving in SA I think the squad is too small. I know they've had injury and Covid issues but surely that should have been accounted for.

In particular I think another centre and another back 5/second row player would have made a big difference. Some of these guys have played a lot of rugby in a short space of time. It's s big ask in the modern pro game to back up Saturday to wednesday! Some of that team will be involved this coming Saturday too.

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Post by Rugby Fan Mon 12 Jul 2021, 10:38 am

Either Biggar plays the whole match, or one of the scrum halves will have to fill in at fly half.

RDW wrote:Looking at the team selections since arriving in SA I think the squad is too small..
The concern was, a larger squad would be harder to manage, and mean fewer playing opportunities for individuals. They seemed to be deliberately erring on the side of a smaller squad. It would have been slightly smaller still, if Gatland hadn't asked for permission to add one at the last minute.


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Post by LordDowlais Mon 12 Jul 2021, 10:41 am

This looks very close to a test team that you will probably see.

Im looking forward to this one. Yahoo

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Post by RDW Mon 12 Jul 2021, 10:41 am

Murray has filled in at 10 has he not?

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Post by Guest Mon 12 Jul 2021, 10:44 am

RDW wrote:Looking at the team selections since arriving in SA I think the squad is too small. I know they've had injury and Covid issues but surely that should have been accounted for.

In particular I think another centre and another back 5/second row player would have made a big difference. Some of these guys have played a lot of rugby in a short space of time. It's s big ask in the modern pro game to back up Saturday to wednesday! Some of that team will be involved this coming Saturday too.

Agreed. I thought this when the original squad size was announced. It would be small enough in normal times, but given the fact that COVID is a risk AND anyone flying in as an injury replacement would probably need to isolate for 2 weeks before entering the 'bubble'..... it would have made sense to take more players as injury cover in the first place. A Woodward-esque squad of 45 or similar, for example.

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Post by RDW Mon 12 Jul 2021, 10:46 am

Given the nature of Henshaw's injury I'm surprised they didn't call up another centre given we were already very light there. He hasn't featured since the first game, and that's meant a lot of gametime for Aki and Harris, as well as the wingers given Daley has played a lot at 13 (which may have been his position in the squad, granted). Combine that with Farrell's supposed dodgy shoulder...

Aki has played in all 5 games! That'll be taking a big physical and mental toll, especially when you also consider he's been needing to train to prepare for every game.

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Post by Pot Hale Mon 12 Jul 2021, 11:10 am

RDW wrote:Given the nature of Henshaw's injury I'm surprised they didn't call up another centre given we were already very light there. He hasn't featured since the first game, and that's meant a lot of gametime for Aki and Harris, as well as the wingers given Daley has played a lot at 13 (which may have been his position in the squad, granted). Combine that with Farrell's supposed dodgy shoulder...

Aki has played in all 5 games! That'll be taking a big physical and mental toll, especially when you also consider he's been needing to train to prepare for every game.

Was just thinking the same - he's renowned for a great engine in Connacht but he must be thinking he's going to be slightly flogged by the time of the first test in comparison to other midfielders.

Murray has filled in at 10 - once or twice - but he is a regular enough place-kicker for Munster and Ireland.
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Post by LordDowlais Mon 12 Jul 2021, 11:14 am

RDW wrote:
Warren Gatland, has named his Lions team to play South Africa ‘A’ at Cape Town Stadium on Wednesday 14 July (kick off 7pm BST).

Tour captain Conor Murray (Munster, Ireland) is named skipper of a starting XV which has 12 changes to the team that defeated Cell C Sharks 31-71 at Loftus Versfeld on Saturday evening, with Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England), Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland) and Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) the only players retained.

Watson shifts from right wing to fullback with Harris moving to 13 where he is joined in midfield by Bundee Aki (Connacht Rugby, Ireland). Biggar will again start at fly-half.

The game against South Africa ‘A’ will be shown live and exclusively on Sky Sports and is the fourth match in an eight-game Series culminating in the three Tests against World Champions, the Springboks.

“We’re pleased to have arrived in Cape Town as we near the halfway stage of the Series,” said Gatland.


“Wednesday’s game against South Africa ‘A’ will be our toughest encounter since we arrived here and we’re looking forward to it. We expect them to be physical in the contact area and look to test us at scrum time.”

“I think we’ve benefitted from playing at altitude in the first three games. While the boys have felt it in their lungs, they’ll be all the better for it now we’re at sea level.

“As we move towards the business end of the Tour, it’s pleasing to see so many players putting in some stand-out performances. As coaches we want the players to make Test selection as hard as possible and that’s we’re seeing.”

SOUTH AFRICA ‘A’ v THE BRITISH & IRISH LIONS

15. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England) #816

14. Louis Rees-Zammit (Gloucester Rugby, Wales) #846

13. Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland) #844

12. Bundee Aki (Connacht Rugby, Ireland) #837

11. Josh Adams (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) #836

10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) #821

9. Conor Murray – captain (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #790

1. Wyn Jones (Scarlets, Wales) #842

2. Ken Owens (Scarlets, Wales) #829

3. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814

4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825

5. Iain Henderson (Ulster Rugby, Ireland) #808

6. Josh Navidi (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) #854

7. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, England) #853

8 .Taulupe Faletau (Bath Rugby, Wales) #779

Replacements:

16. Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, England) #851

17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, England) #787

18. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) #848

19. Adam Beard (Ospreys, Wales) #852

20. Tadhg Beirne (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #838

21. Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, England) #849

22. Gareth Davies (Scarlets, Wales) #850

23. Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822

Swap Watson for Hogg or Williams, and that is more or less the test side for me.

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Post by Guest Mon 12 Jul 2021, 11:47 am

On reflection my test team, with a few undecideds, thus far would be:

Hogg
DvdM
Harris/Daly
Henshaw (if fit)
Adams
Biggar
Price

Wyn Jones/Sutherland
Any of the hookers but LCD and George look strongest at present
Furlong
Itoje
Henderson
Beirne
Watson
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Post by Guest Mon 12 Jul 2021, 11:48 am

The Oracle wrote:On reflection my test team, with a few undecideds, thus far would be:

Hogg
DvdM
Harris/Slade
Henshaw (if fit)
Adams
Biggar
Price

Wyn Jones/Sutherland
Any of the hookers but LCD and George look strongest at present
Furlong
Itoje
Henderson
Beirne
Watson
Faletau/Conan

Damn, posted on the wrong thread again! Saw LD’s comment about changes for the test team and thought we were on the test thread!

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Post by Dirtydave Mon 12 Jul 2021, 12:23 pm

There are a lot of areas of strength for the lions, but there are so many more areas of concern imho.

Players looking jaded already, last game Adams played he looked bust 5 mins into 2nd half.

There are a large number of key ongoing injuries, Russell, Farrell, Henshaw, L Williams, itoje...

There are certain positions where no-one has any form, I'm looking at loosehead, 8, scrum half, 12 etc...

Finally, and I think this is the biggest issue, is we have a lot of quality players, who are very different to each other or their potential partnerships.

Look at hooker, LCD, George, and Owens are as different as hookers can be, all have their strengths but none have gelled in the scrum!

Same with the back row, there's no real balance, despite having world class players there there is absolutely no cohesion! Bierne, Watson and Conan have all played well against poor opposition, but that's come at a sacrifice of Curry, Navidi, and falatau who havnt created a partnership with the others.

No 9 is playing well, meaning our 10's are off kilter, and that's being passed up the backline, Biggar is the only real option currently, without a 9,12 pairing to suit him.

Back 3 has the same issue as the back row, lots of top players, no cohesion or unit built thus far. Adams and VDM look great going forward, but are being caught out because the 13 and 15's are very different people.

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:04 pm

Anyone seen the ‘A’ team South Africa have just named…

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:08 pm

South Africa ‘A’ team to face British & Irish Lions at Cape Town Stadium:
15 – Willie le Roux
14 – Cheslin Kolbe
13 – Lukhanyo Am (captain)
12 – Damian de Allende
11 – Sbu Nkosi
10 – Morné Steyn
9 – Faf de Klerk
8 – Jasper Wiese
7 – Pieter-Steph du Toit
6 – Marco van Staden
5 – Franco Mostert
4 – Eben Etzebeth
3 – Trevor Nyakane
2 – Joseph Dweba
1 – Steven Kitshoff

Replacements (from):
16 – Malcolm Marx
17 – Coenie Oosthuizen
18 – Vincent Koch
19 – Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg
20 – Rynhardt Elstadt
21 – Herschel Jantjies
22 – Jesse Kriel
23 – Damian Willemse
24 – Kwagga Smith
25 – Elton Jantjies

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Post by RiscaGame Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:09 pm

Some A side that laughing

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Post by RiscaGame Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:09 pm

I get why they've done it, but crikey it's mad to see that.

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Post by RDW Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:20 pm

I thought that was a joke. Bloody hell! Guess that's where the SA players will be getting their gametime...

I'm expecting injuries this game.

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Post by Guest Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:20 pm

Nice, well played SA, get on the front foot and send the sh*ts up them

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Post by Old Man Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:25 pm

Interesting move by Rassie and Co.

The loose trio will be of particular interest with Vermeulen and Kolisi not availabe

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Post by RDW Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:30 pm

A few more updates:

AWJ is back training and may join the camp again this week
Kelleher is being lined up to come out too
Rassie wanted the Lions to play South Africa 'A' again this weekend - the Lions said no

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Post by Guest Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:35 pm

RDW wrote:A few more updates:

AWJ is back training and may join the camp again this week
Kelleher is being lined up to come out too
Rassie wanted the Lions to play South Africa 'A' again this weekend - the Lions said no

I can sort of see why. This A game is going to be basically a test now. So another one would be, in total, like 5 test matches!

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Post by Old Man Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:36 pm

Would have been great to see another tough game though.

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Post by RDW Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:38 pm

The Oracle wrote:
RDW wrote:A few more updates:

AWJ is back training and may join the camp again this week
Kelleher is being lined up to come out too
Rassie wanted the Lions to play South Africa 'A' again this weekend - the Lions said no

I can sort of see why.  This A game is going to be basically a test now.  So another one would be, in total, like 5 test matches!

Absolutely - there's very little reason why the Lions would agree to that. It's not our responsibility to get the Bocks test ready.

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Post by Old Man Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:39 pm

RDW wrote:
The Oracle wrote:
RDW wrote:A few more updates:

AWJ is back training and may join the camp again this week
Kelleher is being lined up to come out too
Rassie wanted the Lions to play South Africa 'A' again this weekend - the Lions said no

I can sort of see why.  This A game is going to be basically a test now.  So another one would be, in total, like 5 test matches!

Absolutely - there's very little reason why the Lions would agree to that. It's not our responsibility to get the Bocks test ready.

Aw Wink

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:40 pm

RDW wrote:A few more updates:

AWJ is back training and may join the camp again this week
Kelleher is being lined up to come out too
Rassie wanted the Lions to play South Africa 'A' again this weekend - the Lions said no

Why another hooker?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:44 pm

Well its basically 4 tests then. Obviously trying to ensure an out and out winner in case of a draw again.

Actually a huge chance for a few players to leap frog the opposition. Play well here and its going to count for more than the Sharks.


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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:54 pm

Old Man wrote:
RDW wrote:
The Oracle wrote:
RDW wrote:A few more updates:

AWJ is back training and may join the camp again this week
Kelleher is being lined up to come out too
Rassie wanted the Lions to play South Africa 'A' again this weekend - the Lions said no

I can sort of see why.  This A game is going to be basically a test now.  So another one would be, in total, like 5 test matches!

Absolutely - there's very little reason why the Lions would agree to that. It's not our responsibility to get the Bocks test ready.

Aw Wink

South Africa are cheats.... Very Happy

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Post by Old Man Mon 12 Jul 2021, 1:58 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
Old Man wrote:
RDW wrote:
The Oracle wrote:
RDW wrote:A few more updates:

AWJ is back training and may join the camp again this week
Kelleher is being lined up to come out too
Rassie wanted the Lions to play South Africa 'A' again this weekend - the Lions said no

I can sort of see why.  This A game is going to be basically a test now.  So another one would be, in total, like 5 test matches!

Absolutely - there's very little reason why the Lions would agree to that. It's not our responsibility to get the Bocks test ready.

Aw Wink

South Africa are cheats.... Very Happy
Yup, SARU has been accused of that many a time in the Antipodes Cool

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Post by Rugby Fan Mon 12 Jul 2021, 2:06 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW wrote:A few more updates:

AWJ is back training and may join the camp again this week
Kelleher is being lined up to come out too
Rassie wanted the Lions to play South Africa 'A' again this weekend - the Lions said no

Why another hooker?
You always need two in training, so it give some breathing space if you want to rest the matchday pair, or if COVID means two have to isolate.

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 12 Jul 2021, 2:10 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW wrote:A few more updates:

AWJ is back training and may join the camp again this week
Kelleher is being lined up to come out too
Rassie wanted the Lions to play South Africa 'A' again this weekend - the Lions said no

Why another hooker?
You always need two in training, so it give some breathing space if you want to rest the matchday pair, or if COVID means two have to isolate.

Fair, but they should probably call up some extra players too. Hogg not featuring again is a worry, although he could be available in a week or 2.

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Post by George Carlin Mon 12 Jul 2021, 2:35 pm

Wow - so the Lions are really going to have their first test.

That could legitimately be the first choice test backline for the Boks.
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Post by Old Man Mon 12 Jul 2021, 2:41 pm

Mapimpi and Pollard missing

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Post by No 7&1/2 Mon 12 Jul 2021, 2:43 pm

Wonder if Gatland knew about the likely SA lineup. Would he have wanted to hold some players back and vice versa if he did?

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Post by Old Man Mon 12 Jul 2021, 2:44 pm

There were talks earlier in the week about the SA A match swopping, so I suspect he was kept in the loop

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Post by George Carlin Mon 12 Jul 2021, 2:46 pm

Old Man wrote:Mapimpi and Pollard missing
Correct, but that's really all.
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