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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Jul 2021, 9:09 am

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SOUTH AFRICA A v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS
Wednesday 14 July
KO: 20:00 SAST / 19:00 UK / 22:00 Dubai  Very Happy
Cape Town Stadium (Newlands), Cape Town
Sky Sports Main Event

Referee: Jaco Peyper
Assistant Referees: Wayne Barnes, AJ Jacobs
TMO: Marius Jonker

TEAMS:

SOUTH AFRICA A:
15 – Willie le Roux
14 – Cheslin Kolbe
13 – Lukhanyo Am (captain)
12 – Damian de Allende
11 – Sbu Nkosi
10 – Morné Steyn
9 – Faf de Klerk

8 – Jasper Wiese
7 – Pieter-Steph du Toit
6 – Marco van Staden
5 – Franco Mostert
4 – Eben Etzebeth
3 – Trevor Nyakane
2 – Joseph Dweba
1 – Steven Kitshoff

Replacements (from):
16 – Malcolm Marx
17 – Coenie Oosthuizen
18 – Vincent Koch
19 – Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg
20 – Rynhardt Elstadt
21 – Herschel Jantjies
22 – Jesse Kriel
23 – Damian Willemse
24 – Kwagga Smith
25 – Elton Jantjies

BRITISH & IRISH LIONS:
15. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England) #816
14. Louis Rees-Zammit (Gloucester Rugby, Wales) #846
13. Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland) #844
12. Bundee Aki (Connacht Rugby, Ireland) #837
11. Josh Adams (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) #836
10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) #821
9. Conor Murray – captain (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #790

1. Wyn Jones (Scarlets, Wales) #842
2. Ken Owens (Scarlets, Wales) #829
3. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814
4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825
5. Iain Henderson (Ulster Rugby, Ireland) #808
6. Josh Navidi (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) #854
7. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, England) #853
8. Taulupe Faletau (Bath Rugby, Wales) #779

16. Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, England) #851
17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, England) #787
18. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) #848
19. Adam Beard (Ospreys, Wales) #852
20. Tadhg Beirne (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #838
21. Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, England) #849
22. Gareth Davies (Scarlets, Wales) #850
23. Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822

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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:40 pm

yep 10 days

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Post by Heaf Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:42 pm

Can we postpone?

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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:43 pm

Sure, until we can have spectators back in the stands

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Post by TightHEAD Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:44 pm

They are not a bad team are they.
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Post by George Carlin Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:45 pm

Clearly our problem is an insufficient number of jocks on the pitch. Run
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Post by Poorfour Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:46 pm

I’m a bit disappointed we didn’t get a check on the trip on Sinckler before the Kolbe try. It might just have been a rugby incident as they were on converging lines, but I would have thought it warranted a look.
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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:46 pm

Is that not his head on Navidi s head? Seems to be for me.

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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:46 pm

Its a card, get on with it

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Post by TightHEAD Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:47 pm

No arms, lead with head. Off
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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:47 pm

You would think they should eventually get through

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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:48 pm

Hands on the floor at every breakdown too.

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Post by Heaf Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:49 pm

No head contact?

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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:49 pm

two movements there

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Post by flyhalffactory Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:50 pm

crikey is that it
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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:50 pm

That is like leopard crawling through mud.

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Post by flyhalffactory Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:51 pm

Old Man wrote:two movements there

looks like a double movement?
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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:52 pm

The SA panel before the match questioned the wisdom of selecting Alun Wynn Jones if he isn’t at 100% fitness

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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:52 pm

flyhalffactory wrote:
Old Man wrote:two movements there

looks like a double movement?

Yes looked like it to me too.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:53 pm

The world's first triple movement.

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Post by Heaf Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:53 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Is that not his head on Navidi s head? Seems to be for me.

Not according to these officials - no idea what they were looking at as Faf's nut clearly smacked Nav in the mush ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:55 pm

Heaf wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Is that not his head on Navidi s head? Seems to be for me.

Not according to these officials - no idea what they were looking at as Faf's nut clearly smacked Nav in the mush ...

Yeah its a red. Wonder it we have a neutral citing officer as de Klerk may be out of the tests.

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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:56 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
Heaf wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Is that not his head on Navidi s head? Seems to be for me.

Not according to these officials - no idea what they were looking at as Faf's nut clearly smacked Nav in the mush ...

Yeah its a red.  Wonder it we have a neutral citing officer as de Klerk may be out of the tests.

Might not be a bad thing, would prefer Reinach

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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:56 pm

Old Man wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
Heaf wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Is that not his head on Navidi s head? Seems to be for me.

Not according to these officials - no idea what they were looking at as Faf's nut clearly smacked Nav in the mush ...

Yeah its a red.  Wonder it we have a neutral citing officer as de Klerk may be out of the tests.

Might not be a bad thing, would prefer Reinach

I like both. Better than anything the Lions have picked.

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Post by Dirtydave Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:57 pm

Interesting first half, some massive calls from the ref team, but over all lions look rudderless! No leadership, poor decision making and poor execution.

Front row impressive, not just in the scrum but around the park they look the only forwards who are fronting up

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Post by Heaf Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:57 pm

Very poor half from the Lions - even worse from the officials - shame we can't sub them at half time ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:57 pm

Dirtydave wrote:Interesting first half, some massive calls from the ref team, but over all lions look rudderless! No leadership, poor decision making and poor execution.

Front row impressive, not just in the scrum but around the park they look the only forwards who are fronting up

Bar Itoje and Curry.

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Post by TightHEAD Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:58 pm

Just what we needed, proper game, a few of the lions have played themselves out of the test starting xv imho.

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Post by Dirtydave Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:58 pm

Regarding Far yellow, I'm glad it was just a yellow, Fafs hit look tough but borderline, defo wouldn't want to see a red.

The refs stating contact on the body though? What are they looking at its a clear head clash.

The tackle before Fafs tho, is a shoulder to Wyn Jones head directly. That was much more dangerous!

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Post by jimbopip Wed 14 Jul 2021, 7:59 pm

Agreed, Faf should be off permanently.
Farrell is playing himself out of the Test XV; I wonder just how "convenient" Biggar's "slight ankle strain" was.
Daly looked good but his clearance kick to Kolbe was suicidal: if that had been Dancer Russell these boards would have been full of scathing "Flaky, unreliable" type comments.
The pack are being smashed at the breakdowns, Farrel isn't moving the ball away, intelligently, from the Boks defence. We are not asking them any questions and neither are we taking them out of their comfort zone.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:00 pm

O'Gara not knowing the laws then.

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Post by flyhalffactory Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:00 pm

SA have played what one game?......undercooked don't make larf

Lots of Lions playing themselves out of the test, ponderous to the breakdown, not looking after the ball, mistakes galore. Experienced guys going missing
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Post by Dirtydave Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:00 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
Dirtydave wrote:Interesting first half, some massive calls from the ref team, but over all lions look rudderless! No leadership, poor decision making and poor execution.

Front row impressive, not just in the scrum but around the park they look the only forwards who are fronting up

Bar Itoje and Curry.

?? Both have been rag dolled, and are poor ball in hand and at the breakdown!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:01 pm

Dirtydave wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
Dirtydave wrote:Interesting first half, some massive calls from the ref team, but over all lions look rudderless! No leadership, poor decision making and poor execution.

Front row impressive, not just in the scrum but around the park they look the only forwards who are fronting up

Bar Itoje and Curry.

?? Both have been rag dolled, and are poor ball in hand and at the breakdown!

Really. OK.

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Post by Dirtydave Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:02 pm

Does anyone else think LRZ stupid haircut highlights the lions players attitudes, smashing teams by 50 points and they've bought into the hype?

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Post by TightHEAD Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:02 pm

Sub Murray and we'll do better.

Ken Owens as Captain.
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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:02 pm

Conor mUrray has been disappointing for me, showed no leadership and he is as pedantic as Faf with the box kicks

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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:03 pm

Lions will be much better in the second half, and I won’t worry about the tests, they will be up for it.

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Post by The Oracle Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:04 pm

Dirtydave wrote:Does anyone else think LRZ stupid haircut highlights the lions players attitudes, smashing teams by 50 points and they've bought into the hype?

Nah
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Post by Dirtydave Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:04 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Sub Murray and we'll do better.

Ken Owens as Captain.

He's really stepped up to lead hasn't he! Very impressed, although he seems to make decisions based on brovado, as warburton said a scrum really stretches SA and Owens seems to want to beat them back

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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:05 pm

Nyakane has struggled, being tactcially outsmarted

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Post by Dirtydave Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:05 pm

Some players really playing themselves out of test contention...

Henderson, Curry, Farrell, Harris, LRZ all need a big 40

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Post by Heaf Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:05 pm

Old Man wrote:Lions will be much better in the second half, and I won’t worry about the tests, they will be up for it.

Just trying to make us feel better? Hug

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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:06 pm

Heaf wrote:
Old Man wrote:Lions will be much better in the second half, and I won’t worry about the tests, they will be up for it.

Just trying to make us feel better? Hug

Nope, think about it, they have been having it easy, they will adjust to the physicality of the SA A team, a few choice words by Gatland at halftime.

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Post by BamBam Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:07 pm

Anyone know who is lining up in the Lions 1/2/6/8/14 shirts? Difficult to recognise them, they’ve been face down in the turf for 40 mins!

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Post by Old Man Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:07 pm

And they have ten minutes against 13 to start the half Wink

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Post by TJ Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:08 pm

Faffs yellow - Initial contact on the arm. Hence yellow Lucky he is on 4 ft high tho Not a chance it will be cited

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Post by Heaf Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:09 pm

Old Man wrote:
Heaf wrote:
Old Man wrote:Lions will be much better in the second half, and I won’t worry about the tests, they will be up for it.

Just trying to make us feel better? Hug

Nope, think about it, they have been having it easy, they will adjust to the physicality of the SA A team, a few choice words by Gatland at halftime.

I hope you're right ...

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Post by The Oracle Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:10 pm

Old Man wrote:
Heaf wrote:
Old Man wrote:Lions will be much better in the second half, and I won’t worry about the tests, they will be up for it.

Just trying to make us feel better? Hug

Nope, think about it, they have been having it easy, they will adjust to the physicality of the SA A team, a few choice words by Gatland at halftime.

Yes, I guess one consolation is that this is not really an A team in the conventional sense. What better practice for the test series than facing…erm…..the test team (pretty much)?!
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Post by TightHEAD Wed 14 Jul 2021, 8:10 pm

Farrell stop Frak kicking it away.
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Why does Farrell kick to the SA wingers?

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