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Post by Guest Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:43 pm

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James Benjamin has been turned into a hooker! We do have too many back rowers so this might be good for him from a personal point of view in terms of getting game time, but will be interesting to see if he's able to become a top level player in that position.

https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/19540310.james-benjamin-moves-flanker-hooker-dragons/

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:11 pm

It seems like it is done. I think Steffan Thomas said as much. M

Honestly very pleased with it, but I also want to see Will Reed progress too. I know Welsh Premiership isn’t the best guide sometimes, but he’s doing very well with the Port.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:44 am

I noticed he wasn't in the 23 for Clermont's game against Sale yesterday.

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Post by RiscaGame Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:55 am

Probably too traumatised to play, after seeing our second half no show v Treviso.

Thankfully I was busy being folded up v Senghenydd, so didn't watch it.

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Post by mikey_dragon Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:19 am

RiscaGame wrote:It seems like it is done. I think Steffan Thomas said as much. M

Honestly very pleased with it, but I also want to see Will Reed progress too. I know Welsh Premiership isn’t the best guide sometimes, but he’s doing very well with the Port.

U20's is probably a better guide than the premiership. Wasn't it Will Reed who had the shocker of a lifetime against France? Would like to see him kick on, but the U20s is a good indicator that he might not.

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:38 am

Jamie Roberts rumoured to be in talks with Waratahs about a move down under. One last ‘hurrah’, according to the Argus.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:56 am

I hoped we would keep Roberts and let go of Dixon.

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:00 pm

Yeah, me too. If he’s good enough for a final season at Waratahs then he’s good enough for us! But can understand completely from his point of view. A nice place to finish off the career.

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Post by RiscaGame Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:17 pm

I don’t blame him. He is being used awfully by us too and you’d definitely want to be finishing off somewhere better than where he currently is. He might even win a game or two.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:45 pm

We've signed Bradley Roberts from Ulster. Happy with that.

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Post by RiscaGame Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:25 pm

Good news. I always wonder when rumours take a while to come true, whether something has happened or he was going elsewhere. I do think he will end up being first choice.

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Post by Welshmushroom Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:04 am

Good position for us to strengthen. I just hope we sort our Loosehead. Safe to say Bateman and Seiuli haven't worked out for us.

I hope we keep Doge as he's been fairly solid for us. Along with Brown that position is looking fairly strong for us now.

I'd love to see Ryan start to give a couple of chances for Peard at Lock. We don't generally produce 20st locks so I would really love to see him get a couple of games even off the bench to let him see rugby at this level.

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Post by mikey_dragon Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:04 pm

Well we do have Joe Davies, but he seems a tad slow (at thinking and running). Peard did look good though. With the way game is going I think Carter should be shifted to 6.

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Post by mikey_dragon Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:30 pm

Shipp and ummm, Benjamin have extended their stay.

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Post by RiscaGame Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:00 pm

Haha. I should know better than to get excited by Dragons re-signing news.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:49 pm

I really hope it works out for James Benjamin. I've probably said it before, but I really liked him as an openside, especially in the loose, and it would be a shame if he ends up being remembered for his stray arrows instead.

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Post by Welshmushroom Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:24 am

Yeah he was a pretty good openside. It's just unfortunate that we seem to be churning out quality opensides at the moment. Shame we cant say the same in any other positions.

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Post by mikey_dragon Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:16 am

We have 8 guys in the U20s. The names that stood out for me are Joe Peard and Ben Moa. I really hope both kick on...

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Post by RiscaGame Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:16 pm

If we don't win now, we never ever will again. As much as I don't like the team really, there is no excuse.

SWA wrote:Benetton have 23 players away with Italy and include Argentina tighthead Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro, who made 18 appearances for the Dragons in 2013/14, in their XV.

Dragons: J Lewis; J Holmes, A Warren, A Owen, J Olowofela; S Davies, G Bertranou; A Seiuli, T Davies, C Coleman, J Davies, J Maksymiw, H Keddie, O Griffiths, R Moriarty (captain).

Replacements: E Dee, J Reynolds, M Doge, H Taylor, D Baker, R Williams, J Rosser, I Davies.

Benetton: G Da Re; L Pani, F Drago, J Riera, T Benvenuti; T Albornoz, D Duvenage (captain); T Gallo, C Els, T Chaparro, I Herbst, C Wegner, M Meggiato, M Lazzaroni, L Cannone.

Replacements: H Faiva, C Traore, F Alongi, N Piantella, A Steyn, A Garbisi, M Zanon, T Bell.

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Post by RiscaGame Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:20 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:We have 8 guys in the U20s. The names that stood out for me are Joe Peard and Ben Moa. I really hope both kick on...

Indeed.

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Post by Welshmushroom Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:58 pm

They look like they have a better pack on show than us though.....Total unknowns in the backline but then again Italy has been producing some quality.

I'm not certain we have this in the bag....

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:07 pm

Their loosehead Thomas Gallo scored a couple of tries against the Scarlets earlier in the season I remember. So they've got two current Argentina props in their pack for starters....

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Post by RiscaGame Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:31 pm

Confidence guys. Dean is the man and knows what he is doing Wink

Olowofela to score a hat trick and make about 100 dominant tackles.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:35 pm

Laugh clap

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:47 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:We have 8 guys in the U20s. The names that stood out for me are Joe Peard and Ben Moa. I really hope both kick on...

Byron Hayward the new U20s head coach though Mikey! I know he’s not your favourite coach Wink

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:07 am

Bath's Max Clark sounds a done deal to you guys next season. That'll add a bit to your centres.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:48 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:Bath's Max Clark sounds a done deal to you guys next season. That'll add a bit to your centres.

We'll take all the help we can get!

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Post by RiscaGame Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:00 pm

Just saw highlights of Dragons U18s v their Scarlet counterparts (I think). I get you can’t take much from them, but it did seem like the lad at 12 (Ackerman) coming through is pretty handy. Captain too. Wish I had watched it now, as it seemed like S4C showed it in some form.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:47 am

It was a big win as well.

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Post by mikey_dragon Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:20 pm

It's not the first time we've had an undefeated U18s team.

Interesting to note that a number of guys have been dropped for the next U20's game, Peard and Moa are two of them. I didn't watch the match but fair play if they didn't perform and are getting moved on. I wonder if coach Hayward is also making changes for himself?

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Post by Guest Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:47 pm

I think Moa went off injured. Thought I saw a clip of him walking off limping.

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Post by RiscaGame Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:02 pm

I did think Peard wasn’t great tbh. Remember him made a pretty poor attempt at a tackle at one point. Thought he would be a bit of a monster at that level, as he seems big (or so I thought).

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Post by mikey_dragon Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:14 pm

Well according to the stats he’s big. Perhaps another one not throwing his weight around, oh well.

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:40 am

That's what I thought. As much as I thought Hayward was a bit of a Dean Ryan to go at his players, when he questioned their commitment and condition I did think of Peard then.

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Post by Guest Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:26 am

Anyone know what’s happened to Max Williams? He seemed to be a good up n comer but seems to have gone off the radar a bit.

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:19 pm

On loan to Coventry, I think. One of three Dragons there?

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Post by Guest Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:09 pm

Ah, OK. That explains why I haven't heard his name for a while OK

Seems/seemed to have lots of potential but perhaps a bit small for a modern day pro lock (he's listed as 6'4").  Thought he might be able to become a decent blindside.  Fingers crossed.


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Post by mikey_dragon Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:02 pm

He (Max) runs around and takes a nap at every breakdown.

News: Tavis Knoyle has left with immediate effect. Lewis Jones is with us until the end of the season.

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:49 pm

JJ Hanrahan to Dragons confirmed on Twitter. Good signing (for us).

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:52 pm

Yeah I saw that, glad it's come off.

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Post by RiscaGame Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:30 pm

He will probably be first choice ten for us.

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:54 pm

Yes, I think it rings true with what Jiffy was saying on Scrum V the other day. Our top players need competition. At Dragons there’s no one really up Sam Davies’ backside (Jiffy’s words) pushing him. If he has a bad game he’s in the team again next week anyway, sort of by default. And that’s one of the failings of the WRU, according to Jiffy (and supported by lots of others across the nation), as they haven’t done well to support the game below the regions (or supported the regions well themselves in fairness) and the players are just not coming through. Whereas in places like England and France, even when they’ve got so many teams to cover, they’ve still got stiff competition for first team places throughout the league. So yes, this might be the best thing to get the best out of Sam Davies, and if he doesn’t or can’t rise to the challenge and oust Hanrahan then so be it. But the challenge is for him to do so and prove he should be no. 1 no. 10.

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Post by PhilBB Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:47 pm

The Oracle wrote:Yes, I think it rings true with what Jiffy was saying on Scrum V the other day. Our top players need competition. At Dragons there’s no one really up Sam Davies’ backside (Jiffy’s words) pushing him. If he has a bad game he’s in the team again next week anyway, sort of by default. And that’s one of the failings of the WRU, according to Jiffy (and supported by lots of others across the nation), as they haven’t done well to support the game below the regions (or supported the regions well themselves in fairness) and the players are just not coming through. Whereas in places like England and France, even when they’ve got so many teams to cover, they’ve still got stiff competition for first team places throughout the league. So yes, this might be the best thing to get the best out of Sam Davies, and if he doesn’t or can’t rise to the challenge and oust Hanrahan then so be it. But the challenge is for him to do so and prove he should be no. 1 no. 10.

Davies could be off

A decent coach could have created competition for Davies by dropping him for Lewis.

But, then again, Ryan isn't a decent coach (any longer)
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Post by RiscaGame Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:14 pm

A few Dragons supporters wanted Lewis to be given a shot. I’m not his biggest fan, but I did see the merits in it too.

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Post by mikey_dragon Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:27 pm

Lewis was tested at 10 and he was no better, and slightly worse. He had a few good runs at 15, but not enough to justify a regular starting place.

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Post by PhilBB Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:06 am

mikey_dragon wrote:Lewis was tested at 10 and he was no better, and slightly worse. He had a few good runs at 15, but not enough to justify a regular starting place.

It's more about pressuring Davies to perform better. That was the point being made.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:29 am

PhilBB wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Lewis was tested at 10 and he was no better, and slightly worse. He had a few good runs at 15, but not enough to justify a regular starting place.

It's more about pressuring Davies to perform better. That was the point being made.

I think Lewis was meant to be that 'pressure'. But he wasn't much good. So now Hanrahan is the new pressure, and likely starter. So if Davies stays then it's up to him to put pressure on Hanrahan.

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Post by mikey_dragon Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:30 am

PhilBB wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Lewis was tested at 10 and he was no better, and slightly worse. He had a few good runs at 15, but not enough to justify a regular starting place.

It's more about pressuring Davies to perform better. That was the point being made.

I wasn't speaking to you.

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Post by PhilBB Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:23 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Lewis was tested at 10 and he was no better, and slightly worse. He had a few good runs at 15, but not enough to justify a regular starting place.

It's more about pressuring Davies to perform better. That was the point being made.

I wasn't speaking to you.

That's right, you were writing.

You were writing on a message board that is open for all to read.

If you want to write to only certain individuals, you'll need to use the private message function.

No need to thank me for the education.
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Post by PhilBB Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:24 am

The Oracle wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Lewis was tested at 10 and he was no better, and slightly worse. He had a few good runs at 15, but not enough to justify a regular starting place.

It's more about pressuring Davies to perform better. That was the point being made.

I think Lewis was meant to be that 'pressure'.  But he wasn't much good.  So now Hanrahan is the new pressure, and likely starter.  So if Davies stays then it's up to him to put pressure on Hanrahan.

Davies would be nuts to stay but, then again, I believed he'd be nuts to go there in the first place.
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Post by PhilBB Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:17 pm

Rhodri Jones is a good spot, especially if Bateman is off.
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