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Post by Hazel Sapling Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:28 am

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Scotland vs South Africa
1pm, Saturday 13th November 2021
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BT Murrayfield Stadium
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Ref: Angus Gardner (Aus)

Not sure what to expect from Scotland as injuries could put a bit of pressure on the pack selections. Skinner was good against Australia and our alternatives are recalling a recalcitrant R Gray, starting a very green Hodgson or asking for 60 minutes from Cummings off an injury. Whilst Ashman got plaudits for his try and grew into the game, he also made some basic errors that can't be made against T1 sides and losing Turner would leave us choosing between him and a relatively undercooked McInally. In the backs, Steyn will likely come into the starters after a decent cameo but some analysis will be needed on how to create line-breaks against a strong rush defensive centre pairing of De Allende - Am.

For South Africa, the team is likely the same 23 as vs Wales, only possible changes could be Nkosi has sorted out his passport issues and will be back in the mix, and Fassi might come in for Willemse who failed an HIA. As for Bok tactics, it is very simple and there is nothing sinister or mysterious about it. If you look at their complete arsenal of attack, it is mauls, exploiting penalty advantage, counter, grubber kicks in the 22 and kick pass. The biggest weakness of the Boks is their predictable phase attack, they don't offload, they don't pass much, they don't really run angles to expose weak shoulders and they don't change the point of contact.

Scotland
Schoeman - McInally - Z Fagerson (Bhatti - Ashman - Kebble)
Skinner - Gilchrist (Hodgson)
Haining - M Fagerson - Ritchie (Watson)

Price - Russell (G Horne - Hastings)
Scott - Harris
DVDM - Hogg - McClean (Kinghorn)

South Africa
Nche - Mbonambi - Nyakane (Kitsoff - Marx - Koch)
Etzebeth - Mostert (De Jager)
Kolisi - Vermeulen - Smith (Wiese)

Jantjies - Jantjies (Reiach - Pollard)
De Allende - Am
Mapimpi - Le Roux - Kriel (Steyn)


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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:25 pm

And the bomb squad hasn’t even come on yet

Ouch
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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:25 pm

SA scrum is terrifyingly good!

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:26 pm

I thought Ritchie was on the ball there, bit unlucky

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:28 pm

We really need to get hands on the balll
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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:30 pm

Double stinker from Finn there
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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:31 pm

Well that’s 60 seconds of rugby Finn will want to forget
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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:32 pm

Finn needs to switch his brain on fairly sharpish

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:33 pm

Good try SA, that was coming from sloppy play from Scotland

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:34 pm

BigGee wrote:Good try SA, that was coming from sloppy play from Scotland

It came off the back of 4 Scottish errors. 3 of which were Finn who is not having a good game by any means
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Post by jimbopip Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:36 pm

Well, we need to sort out the scrum PDQ.
Also we need to hold onto the ball for a little bit longer.

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:39 pm

Get Finn off
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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:39 pm

They probably need to have a good look at this one!

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:39 pm

Well. Good luck in that mess mr TMO
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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:40 pm

I think this is ok!

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Post by lostinwales Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:41 pm

Good try but I am not sure about the forward pass or the deliberate knock on from the SA player

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:41 pm

10-8 Scotland

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:42 pm

Well played Chris Harris for keeping the ball in play
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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:46 pm

How much ground does Harris cover every game?
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Post by Heaf Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:46 pm

Well the first 30 mins were pretty dull to watch unless you like constant scrums and line-outs but the last 10 have been much more entertaining ...

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:48 pm

that was a bit bonkers to change the front row then and then one of them gives a way a penalty

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:49 pm

Oh, that's a bad miss

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:56 pm

lostinwales wrote:Good try but I am not sure about the forward pass or the deliberate knock on from the SA player
No knock on, as he he knocked it back towards his own try line (and helped create the try)

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Post by Old Man Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:57 pm

We need to get rid of the Jantjies combination, they have been terrible. Willie also just not big enough or strong enough.

Boks are completely mindless on attack, no innovation at all.

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:57 pm

What’s the thoughts so far?

It’s looking like men against boys to me.

Some of our guys really need to step up here
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Post by doctor_grey Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:59 pm

Just turning the match on now. Looks like a good tight match. Saw replays of the two tries and that was some play. Did Jantjies, the Bok 9, touch the ball in the final buildup to the Scotland score?

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Post by Old Man Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:01 pm

Our game management is also very poor, how many kicks at goal did we shun in that first 15 minutes?

If the maul isn't working then do something different.

Nienaber has taken the bok rugby backwards.

We aren't scoring tries and his selections are shyte

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Post by jimbopip Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:02 pm

Totally baffled by the front row changes. However, I can't remember ever seeing Ragnar lifted off his feet in a scrum.
South Africa love to flood the 13 channel in defence: it'll be interesting to see if Dancer's kicks make them hold back a little.
A very tense match. Maybe not one for the neutral but I'm loving it.

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Post by Old Man Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:02 pm

doctor_grey wrote:Just turning the match on now.  Looks like a good tight match.  Saw replays of the two tries and that was some play.  Did Jantjies, the Bok 9, touch the ball in the final buildup to the Scotland score?

Yeah he knocked it back.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:03 pm

Reinach and Pollard would make such a difference

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:05 pm

Aa Reinach is on Very Happy

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:16 pm

This will take it to two scores!

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:21 pm

Anyone order a penalty?

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:23 pm

21-10 SA

This game is rapidly going away from us and it is pretty much our own fault

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:24 pm

Hogg wasn’t passing that eh
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Post by doctor_grey Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:25 pm

BigGee wrote:21-10 SA

This game is rapidly going away from us and it is pretty much our own fault
You were saying??? thumbsup

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:25 pm

That was a much better try,

VDM is so much more than a battering ram these days

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:26 pm

Finn's left a lot of points out there today

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:28 pm

It’s not gonna be a game anyone wants to use as a training video.
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Post by doctor_grey Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:29 pm

Great turnover at the lineout by the Boks. Though seems not a great idea to throw to the tail.

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:29 pm

Two spilled lineouts!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:32 pm

doctor_grey wrote:Great turnover at the lineout by the Boks.  Though seems not a great idea to throw to the tail.  

Not the most sympathetic call for a brand new hooker.

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:33 pm

BigGee wrote:Two spilled lineouts!

We’re doing an excellent job of foot shooting today.

We’re just not playing with the top 2 inches
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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:33 pm

That's Kok's third penalty

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:33 pm

tigertattie wrote:
BigGee wrote:Two spilled lineouts!

We’re doing an excellent job of foot shooting today.

We’re just not playing with the top 2 inches

Neither is Koch.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:35 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:Great turnover at the lineout by the Boks.  Though seems not a great idea to throw to the tail.  

Not the most sympathetic call for a brand new hooker.
True. Seemed a bit odd to me.

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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:35 pm

Our set piece has cost us this match, the only surprising thing is how close we have kept it

That's us back out to 2 scores again though now

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:37 pm

Getting bullied out of the game now. Lineout a total disaster too

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:38 pm

Absolutely mullered at the breakdown.

SA are just winning the collision and are getting the easy ride of it.

It’s partly impressive by SA but also woeful from Scotland
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Post by BigGee Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:39 pm

Skinner has had a good game for us, one of our better players today

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Post by tigertattie Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:43 pm

We’re awful. Truly awful
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