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Post by dummy_half Thu 23 Jun 2022, 10:47 am

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Must be assuming Southee can't be as ineffective again.

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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 10:49 am

WTF are they doing ? Bowling short rubbish to Shami for heaven's sake...

Nuts. Potts had five balls at him : why not two slips and pitch it up ? All they've achieved is donating nine runs to the rabbit...

Did they not learn anything from that match last year against the same opponent ?

Grrrr.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 10:53 am

England's bowling plans:

Pant on 70-odd - We'll have three slips and pitch it up, attack the stumps.
Shami new at the crease - We'll bang it in short and down the leg-side, no slips, spread the field. Doh

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Post by VTR Sat 02 Jul 2022, 10:55 am

You don't have to be KP Fan to predict England will bowl short pitched rubbish at the tail

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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 10:55 am

I defended yesterday's tactics - flawed but understandable , maybe. But this has lost me completely.

If India make mistakes they may still get out for under 400. But England have gifted them easy runs and sod all pressure in this "phoney war" period : and at 367/7 they are already in the zone at which England would have been hoping to close out the innings.

What's that they say about doing the same thing and expecting a different result ?

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 10:57 am

Hundred for Sir Ravindra Jadeja! Excellent hand from him yet again!

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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 10:58 am

Well played Jadeja !!!

Excellent century ...really well played.

33 runs today in six overs ... Broad coming on but still no slips. I give up.

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 10:59 am

England not only wasting themselves with those short balls, but also continues to misfire on field, Jadeja might have fallen short of that deserved ton had that catchable edge been taken...

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 10:59 am

Superb from Jadeja. He was the quiet man in the game-changing partnership with Pant, now he has centre stage.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:01 am

Oh dear, Shami's out to the short ball. England will now think the tactic has worked, rather than think about the 16 cheap runs added.

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:01 am

Stuart Broad warming up with some short stuff now, for that new ball that will be available at the end of this over. But he gets Shami to make the leadup even better.
How would Jadeja now play this?

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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:01 am

Ha ! Broad gets Shami caught at third man off a short ball : only 48 for that partnership Wink

Suppose that will validate the short pitched tactic for the foreseeable future...

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:05 am

The Skipper seems in no mood to hang around. Almost gets out to another short ball.
Hope Jas Bumrah will bring the recently discovered lower order batter in him rather than this!

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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:05 am

Nice landmark for Broad with 550 wickets anyway.

And good work from Crawley to save a possible six. New ball now...

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:13 am

Jadeja still happy with the late over single. Not trying particularly to attack... Bumrah looking to hang around...

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:15 am

Old man Anderson does for Jadeja. Cleans up after Jadu played a mighty fine hand. Will this last this over? 5for there for the taking for Anderson.

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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:17 am

Jimmy bowls the man on 104 !

Amazing to think a really good pace bowler can get someone out by bowling at the stumps Wink

Obviously they didn't have a new ball first up today. But Shami is no Jadeja : might have been worth trying to beat his bat early on , no ?

376/9. Get the last one now and they would probably think OK. But I do wonder if they might have tried the basics first...

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:18 am

Siraj is a cricketer of great heart, but he's hopeless with the bat. Gets off the mark though, can Jas slog a few more for him to banked when he starts off his main job?

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:22 am

This might be the worst over I've seen in my life.

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:23 am

The skipper! Gets his side pass 400! Dreadful from Broad really!

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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:25 am

Oh FFS...short crap to Bumrah now !!!!

Fifteen runs in three balls. Frankly England deserve to get smashed after this awful display. I am totally disgusted - and I am not a person who normally overreacts to human error.

Four hundred up. What is going on in their heads that Stuart Broad is allowed/encouraged/told to bowl like this ?

34 off the over and any lift they got from Jimmy bowling Jadeja has gone up in smoke...

I really hope Baz has a word in the rooms later.

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:26 am

Jasprit! What on earth is happening!? Its Stuart Broad, man with 550 test wickets! Respect, lad! Smashed him all around, and for good measure, took the single of the last ball to keep strike as well!

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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:28 am

They do this every single time, just bowl full and straight, they miss, you hit. Bumrah bats at 10 for a reason, he's useless with the bat.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:29 am

That was the worst test over I've seen, considering the batsman.

I genuinely don't know what goes through England's head when bowling at the tail. Yesterday, they took on genuine batsmen with v.attacking full-pitched bowling and lots of slips. Today, they take on Bumrah and Shami with a T20 field and lots of short stuff.

Why? I'd love Atherton to ask that at the post-match interview, rather than his usual sycophantic stuff.

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:32 am

So after all that, Anderson raps this up! 5for for him, India a very creditable 416 on the board, from 98-5 and 320-7.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:34 am

Apparently, that was the most test runs by a batsman in a single over in the history of the game (29 off the bat; six extras), beating Lara/Bailey/Maharaj who were previously joint-top with 28.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/233006.html

Bumrah's four highest test scores all v England.


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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:35 am

So yet again;

Anderson- 60 off 21.5 @ 2.75
The rest- 335 off 63 @ 5.3

It's getting a bit ridiculous now, why can only one bowler stick to a gameplan. The rest seem to get bored and decide going short is the answer.


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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:35 am

Duty281 wrote:That was the worst test over I've seen, considering the batsman.

I genuinely don't know what goes through England's head when bowling at the tail. Yesterday, they took on genuine batsmen with v.attacking full-pitched bowling and lots of slips. Today, they take on Bumrah and Shami with a T20 field and lots of short stuff.

Why? I'd love Atherton to ask that at the post-match interview, rather than his usual sycophantic stuff.

Amen to that. Someone really has to ask the hard question this time.

All done now thanks to Anderson...five wickets for him , light years ahead of the other bowlers.

But 416 is at least forty more than they should have conceded .

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Post by KP_fan Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:39 am

I just heard India's no.10 just smacked one of England's greatest bowlers ever with thousands of wickets
For 35 runs in an over  England's Summer of Cricket 2022 as Joe Root Steps Down - Page 11 1f61d
Smashing all kind of world records
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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:42 am

India would hope they can do maximum damage with the new ball. If Joe Root is still there or scheduled to bat after the 35 over mark, then India would find out that 416 may not really be enough... Hope India wouldn't get stuck against the pretenders in that English lineup.
England would hope that the likes of Lees, Crawley and Pope would be able to provide new ball cover for Root, Bairstow and Stokes to unleash later.
Indian bowlers, in the last year part of the series, took time to get going more often than not. On this track, they can't afford to do that.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:42 am

416. Long road back from here and India will be buoyant in the field.

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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:46 am

It's a good pitch for batting. But the new ball (used properly !) can still do damage. And 416 is quite an imposing target.

England will want to bat more sensibly than they bowled in that session.

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:49 am

Don't think I like this, Shami should have been on straight away with that new ball. Siraj is a top operator with the oldish ball, Shami is more skillful with the new ball. Hope even if they persist with Siraj, it would be up to the point the new ball lose a bit of shine, or if he gives them a few early strikes demanding to keep him on.

PS, result of moving away from the TV and following the game on cricinfo.
Jas doing it right after all, Shami partnering him upfront. Ball doing nothing much as of now.


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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 11:51 am

Soul Requiem wrote:So yet again;

Anderson- 60 off 21.5 @ 2.75
The rest- 335 off 63 @ 5.3

It's getting a bit ridiculous now, why can only one bowler stick to a gameplan. The rest seem to get bored and decide going short is the answer.

Well Jimmy is just simply the best bowler. Has more than one way to get a result. But it is pretty clear that the others were operating to a pre-conceived plan rather than just "going rogue" ; so I am putting the blame squarely on Stokes and the coaching team. And I am very disappointed in the evident stubbornness being shown : and really hope they are prepared to learn from their mistakes !

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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 12:00 pm

Lees gone already...nice bowling from Bumrah but I am a little concerned at the number of times Lees has fallen bowled or lbw early on. Regular hazards for an opening bat , I guess : but that defence just doesn't look exactly watertight.

Rain delay. Lees will hate the timing Wink

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 12:03 pm

Got back to see Lees taken out by Bumrah, and then the rain coming in...
So time for the game's administrators to show some brains, can we have an early lunch?

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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 02 Jul 2022, 12:05 pm

alfie wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:So yet again;

Anderson- 60 off 21.5 @ 2.75
The rest- 335 off 63 @ 5.3

It's getting a bit ridiculous now, why can only one bowler stick to a gameplan. The rest seem to get bored and decide going short is the answer.

Well Jimmy is just simply the best bowler. Has more than one way to get a result. But it is pretty clear that the others were operating to a pre-conceived plan rather than just "going rogue" ; so I am putting the blame squarely on Stokes and the coaching team. And I am very disappointed in the evident stubbornness being shown : and really hope they are prepared to learn from their mistakes !

That is true but at the same time it's Andersons stubbornness that refuses to deviate from his own gameplan. Potts is a line and length bowler, almost metronomic when in full rhythm, just leave him to do what he does best, they did the same with Archer too and look how that's panned out.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 1:15 pm

Off again after the rain. England trail by 400.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 1:21 pm

Crawley's off again. Very rare dismissal for him - having a drive and edging it to the slip cordon.

Please don't pick him for South Africa.

Bumrah on a hat-trick.

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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 1:25 pm

Back in action...and it's Deja Vu all over again as Crawley edges Bumrah to slip...

Root must be getting used to this , entering at 27/2.

NZ series brought out the best in this England team : they are going to need to dig deep against this Indian team , who look as if they mean business...

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Post by kingraf Sat 02 Jul 2022, 1:30 pm

Zak Crawley is too tall to open
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Post by alfie Sat 02 Jul 2022, 1:32 pm

Way to go before the SA series. But at the moment , the likes of Rabada and Nortje may be eyeing the England opening pairing with some relish...

Testing stuff this , from Bumrah and Shami. Don't think anyone would be finding it easy at present.

More rain. Annoying . Off we go again.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 2:11 pm

After this rain passes the radar is clear for the rest of the day. The game is in an advanced state so no threat to the result. India probably don't mind a little break as it'll allow Bumrah to recharge and bowl another full spell on resumption.

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 3:22 pm

England motoring along despite the loss of the openers. And they continue in the same way after resumption. Both Root and Pope collecting early boundaries to get going...

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 3:24 pm

Bumrah, like Stokes has had a bit of a long-running issue with no-balls. Have noticed that he does more of it in tests rather than limited overs.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 3:36 pm

Very poor dismissal. Just hang the bat out for no reason and give some catching practice to Iyer.

44/3.

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 3:46 pm

As of now, the no-balls seem to be working for Bumrah, the extra deliveries fetching him a couple of wickets. The Indian skipper will do well to stay disciplined though...
India doing well to have got through the relatively less demanding task of getting through the England top 3. Now there is Root, and then Bairstow and Stokes...

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 3:49 pm

This man Root! Even when he's not in control, keep fetching boundaries for him. Looking busy as usual... Perhaps time for a bit of Siraj?

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 3:58 pm

Hope Bumrah will have a few more from the other end, taking over from Shami. There is enough to keep the bowlers interested for the time being. But it may not last for too long.

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Post by msp83 Sat 02 Jul 2022, 3:59 pm

Hell! The stupid rain's back.

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Post by Galted Sat 02 Jul 2022, 5:40 pm

king_carlos wrote:Day 2 predictions:

India either will or will not be bowled out

If England bat they will score more than 11 runs but less than 927 runs

Jadeja will get between 83* and 242

A bowler might take a wicket

It will rain unless it doesn't

Uncanny, have you got next week's Euromillions numbers for me?

Hopefully I can get last week's off KP_fan.

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