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Post by Highland Shaun Wed 28 Sep 2022, 10:54 pm

First topic message reminder :

Results in aggregate this year for the national team were:

5 February 2022 - Scotland 20–17 England
12 February 2022 - Wales 20–17 Scotland
26 February 2022 - Scotland 17–36 France
12 March 2022 - Italy 22–33 Scotland
19 March 2022 - Ireland 26–5 Scotland
2 July 2022 - Argentina 26–18 Scotland
9 July 2022 - Argentina 6–29 Scotland
16 July 2022 - Argentina 34–31 Scotland
29 October 2022 - Scotland 15–16 Australia
5 November 2022 - Scotland 28–12 Fiji
13 November 2022 - Scotland 23–31 New Zealand
19 November 2022 - Scotland 52–29 Argentina

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Post by BigGee Fri 11 Nov 2022, 3:25 pm

I have a feeling that he has told some of these players to empty the tank this weekend and they will not be playing next week. They will likely be some changes for the Argentina game, especially if the bench plays well.

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Post by Heuer27 Fri 11 Nov 2022, 3:39 pm

Not going to lie , I think that’s a pretty poor and old team. Most of the form players are on the bench or out of the 23 altogether
If he thinks experience and old bones are going to turn over the all blacks I’ve got a bridge to sell him.
It’s going to be a long weekend

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Post by RDW Fri 11 Nov 2022, 8:04 pm

Wtf is Brown doing in there??

He looks past it at club level never mind able to keep up with the most dynamic team on the planet. He's a one man penalty machine too, which won't help our discipline issue.

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Post by NeilyBroon Fri 11 Nov 2022, 8:25 pm

As I said before, expect we'll get walloped. I'd give NZ at least 40 points.

I'm only free to watch the first half but I'm not sure I'll even make it through that!

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Post by NeilyBroon Fri 11 Nov 2022, 8:33 pm

I do wonder if the Redpath situ is contractual. Wouldn't surprise me if it was the result of a poor negotiation with bath. That's the only explanation I can think of.

Definitely agree that chuckles is not exactly the form choice. Is Matthews injured atm?

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Post by BigGee Fri 11 Nov 2022, 8:37 pm

I think he has just gone for the more physical option this week. Redpath may well come back in next week.

Bearing in mind his injury record and he has not even played that much this season, he may well be easing him into international rugby a bit.

We can't just rely on Redpath going forward, particularly as he has proven to be quite fragile

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Post by NeilyBroon Fri 11 Nov 2022, 8:42 pm

We can't just keep chopping and changing pairings in a position where continuity is arguably most important though.  As people keep saying Shona is also out of position. At least Harris is the one constant there. He doesn't need a bruiser inside though, he needs a playmaker.

Also Redpath is one of the best scavengers for bath. He is much more physical than he looks!

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Post by demosthenes Fri 11 Nov 2022, 9:15 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:I do wonder if the Redpath situ is contractual. Wouldn't surprise me if it was the result of a poor negotiation with bath. That's the only explanation I can think of.

Definitely agree that chuckles is not exactly the form choice. Is Matthews injured atm?

Not sure how it can be contractual when it's within the International window?

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Post by NeilyBroon Fri 11 Nov 2022, 9:18 pm

demosthenes wrote:
NeilyBroon wrote:I do wonder if the Redpath situ is contractual. Wouldn't surprise me if it was the result of a poor negotiation with bath. That's the only explanation I can think of.

Definitely agree that chuckles is not exactly the form choice. Is Matthews injured atm?

Not sure how it can be contractual when it's within the International window?

Pure speculation. I think there must be clauses within that? Especially during the autumn.

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Post by BigGee Fri 11 Nov 2022, 9:26 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:
demosthenes wrote:
NeilyBroon wrote:I do wonder if the Redpath situ is contractual. Wouldn't surprise me if it was the result of a poor negotiation with bath. That's the only explanation I can think of.

Definitely agree that chuckles is not exactly the form choice. Is Matthews injured atm?

Not sure how it can be contractual when it's within the International window?

Pure speculation. I think there must be clauses within that? Especially during the autumn.

Not so sure about that either but 3 internationals in 3 weeks is tough on anyone. I suspect we'll see a few more rested next weekend as well.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 11 Nov 2022, 10:32 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:
demosthenes wrote:
NeilyBroon wrote:I do wonder if the Redpath situ is contractual. Wouldn't surprise me if it was the result of a poor negotiation with bath. That's the only explanation I can think of.

Definitely agree that chuckles is not exactly the form choice. Is Matthews injured atm?

Not sure how it can be contractual when it's within the International window?

Pure speculation. I think there must be clauses within that? Especially during the autumn.

That would see Bath in a lot of trouble if it were. Restricting players from playing internationals isn't appreciated by World Rugby. Given Redpath only came off the bench I presume he had a knock and Scotland didn't want to risk him.

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Post by bsando Fri 11 Nov 2022, 10:48 pm

David Havili - 27, 120 caps for crusaders (170 points), 23 caps for NZ (40 points)

Sione Tuipilotu - 25, 25 caps for Glasgow (20 points), 9 caps for Scotland (0 points)

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Post by jimbopip Sat 12 Nov 2022, 10:46 am

So Shona to score 8 tries, and tie him for points scored, tomorrow? I'll put a fiver of FES' money on that.

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 12 Nov 2022, 11:11 am

jimbopip wrote:So Shona to score 8 tries, and tie him for points scored, tomorrow? I'll put a fiver of FES' money on that.

It's the only logical conclusion. They'd better have Scottish Gaelic commentary for the full effect.

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 12 Nov 2022, 3:27 pm

So Italy beat Australia. Wooden spoon for us then next year!

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Post by George Carlin Sat 12 Nov 2022, 4:26 pm

bsando wrote:David Havili - 27, 120 caps for crusaders (170 points), 23 caps for NZ (40 points)

Sione Tuipilotu - 25, 25 caps for Glasgow (20 points), 9 caps for Scotland (0 points)
Well, I mean you can prove anything with facts, can't you?
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Post by bsando Sat 12 Nov 2022, 5:50 pm

Yeah I mean he could have a really solid game tomorrow and I hope he does. I just find it amusing that he is considered the best option to start at inside centre for Scotland. And that he’s played all his rugby at 13 this season for Glasgow. Playing Redpath, Hutchinson, Lang or Scott would all be better options in my opinion.

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Post by BigGee Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:55 am

Well after an interesting visit to the Hunterian Museum, followed by a great night out on Byres Rd, we are on our way to Edinburgh for the match, happy to report the trains are running this time!

It is going to be a fabulous day for a game, weather is perfect, though i am not sure that does us any favours.

As ever though. There is a sense of hope and expectation. Could this be the day?

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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:09 am

BigGee wrote:Well after an interesting visit to the Hunterian Museum, followed by a great night out on Byres Rd, we are on our way to Edinburgh for the match, happy to report the trains are running this time!

It is going to be a fabulous day for a game, weather is perfect, though i am not sure that does us any favours.

As ever though. There is a sense of hope and expectation. Could this be the day?

Don't count on it!

But as ever would be delighted to be proven wrong.

Maybe Toonie has asked the players to be awful up until this point and he has some master plan for the 2023 world cup...

...Or maybe Ali price will just give the ABs the ball to run at us, Finn and Blair will throw 10 intercepts between them and we'll be on the end of a cricket score. The one try we would have gotten in response is from Shona who drops it over the line.

I jest, I'm sure it won't be that bad! Have fun, should be a great atmosphere!

I'd say 15-35 to NZ at a guess.

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Post by mountain man Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:10 am

Maybe Toonie has asked the players to be awful up until this point and he has some master plan for the 2023 world cup

Jones working on exact same principle with England.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 1:03 pm

I’ll tell you what. Watching Northampton and praying that Fin Smith and Dingwall come and play for scotland. And hopefully we get a coach that likes Hutchinson

Watching those guys in attack is light years ahead of watching blairhorn, Shona and Harris or any other blunt instruments we can deploy in the centres.
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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 1:05 pm

Combined with Sean maitland and Christie for sarries, this is a Scotland heavy showcase of a match
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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:09 pm

tigertattie wrote:I’ll tell you what. Watching Northampton and praying that Fin Smith and Dingwall come and play for scotland. And hopefully we get a coach that likes Hutchinson

Watching those guys in attack is light years ahead of watching blairhorn, Shona and Harris or any other blunt instruments we can deploy in the centres.

Dingwall is a regular at the England camp, I think he's just waiting for an injury. Fin Smith may well be watching today with interest to see what his chances are with Scotland.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:18 pm

Scotland to pip the ABs

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:19 pm

Big game for Frank Murphy

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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:21 pm

Oh dear

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:25 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Scotland to pip the ABs

Your version of the commentators curse?

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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:26 pm

Frak this. I’m going for a walk
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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:26 pm

Question for me is... Will it be a half century or maybe even a century??

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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:28 pm

Hogg is having a stinker

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:30 pm

Pen try.

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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:31 pm

Maybe made up for it a bit then!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:33 pm

Dear God. Terrible commentating. Who is the Kiwi who doesn't know a pen try is a yellow card anyway.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:34 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:Scotland to pip the ABs

Your version of the commentators curse?

Hold your horses, plenty of time.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:35 pm

tigertattie wrote:Frak this. I’m going for a walk

Hope he's recorded it.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:35 pm

Ok maybe I’ll stay!
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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:35 pm

Great match so far, NZ have had a bit of a habit of throwing away leads this year


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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:36 pm

Well well well! Maybe it'll only be a half century!

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Post by RiscaGame Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:36 pm

Hell of a start to this game.

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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:39 pm

Great chase.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:40 pm

Not convinced by Caleb Clarke at all, Telea looks good though

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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:46 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Frak this. I’m going for a walk

Hope he's recorded it.

Thankfully when it comes to rugby I’m happy to sit and watch to the bitter end. Years of practise watching Scotland you see
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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:51 pm

This is the best I've seen Scotland play in a long time. Where the hell has this desire to actually play been???

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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:57 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:This is the best I've seen Scotland play in a long time. Where the hell has this desire to actually play been???

Many would say that it’s been in Paris.

Deffo an increase in intensity. To me it’s us reverting to our underdog tag. It’s when we’re written off that we actually try!
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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 13 Nov 2022, 2:59 pm

I'd agree but we played gash the last 6Ns with Russell too.

Maybe we need doddie every game!

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 3:09 pm

The Scots have played some really good rugby, think they are gonna take this one. Very well rounded team.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 3:11 pm

Scotland have spurned some really good chances. They've left maybe 10-14 points out there this half, it could be pivotal.

Still, yesterday Italy got their first ever win over Australia. Scotland's time to beat NZ may just follow.

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Post by BigGee Sun 13 Nov 2022, 3:12 pm

What a half

The place is bouncing

I am in bits!

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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 3:24 pm

Are we on the verge of a Toonie Finn reconciliation?

Is Toonie about to be the greatest ever coach for Scotland?

Will Scotland finally get that win over the all cheats, I mean all blacks?

Have I been drinking early in the afternoon???
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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 3:35 pm

How great is Duhan though?

Breaks the first tackle every single time
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