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England post 2022 6Ns, Aus tour and beyond
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Hate to say it and I don't wish him injured but I'm glad Ewels not available!
If you're disappointed with Malins and Daly being selected, imagine how most of us feel about Youngs being there.
In fairness, Malins and Daly been superb this season but please give Radwan and Arundell a run.
Hate to say it and I don't wish him injured but I'm glad Ewels not available!
If you're disappointed with Malins and Daly being selected, imagine how most of us feel about Youngs being there.
In fairness, Malins and Daly been superb this season but please give Radwan and Arundell a run.
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Ball call by Brace - never has been a great ref ...
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3 point gift to Argentina
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Heaf wrote:The touchline is receiving a lot of passes today
Youngs is playing......the touchline and ground are his go to balls.
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Nice line by Coles there.
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That was ridiculous, text book penalty for not supporting his own weight.
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We still don't look like we have any kind of attacking game plan. Headless chicken stuff at times.
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Oh dear - just heard who the TMO is ...
Heaf- Posts : 7004
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Our play from kick offs is rubbish. From both offence and defence.
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Heaf wrote:Oh dear - just heard who the TMO is ...
And we know how he loves us...
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Precisely ...
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Brilliant scrum. Great scavenging from Curry I think supported by LCD.
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No 7&1/2 wrote:Our play from kick offs is rubbish. From both offence and defence.
Yep - half of Argentina's points have come from restart errors ...
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I don't feel like there is as much scrutiny on the offside line for them as us, we are being hammered for it, but they've been offside on a number of occasions and it just doesn't seem to be picked up.
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Not a great game, but we've coughed the ball up when attacking their line twice. We could (and should) be almost out of sight here.
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Well apart from the obvious sub surely we should be looking to bring on the forwards from the bench early else what's the point of 6 2?
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Cumbrian wrote:I don't feel like there is as much scrutiny on the offside line for them as us, we are being hammered for it, but they've been offside on a number of occasions and it just doesn't seem to be picked up.
Indeed as I said earlier Brace is not a great ref and at least one of the ARs is blind going from that earlier non knock-on not picked up right in front of him ...
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Has EJ not done his homework on the restarts? I have watched a lot of recent Argentinian games and they have a lot of variations on the restart. england don't seem to be expecting them
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Cumbrian wrote:Not a great game, but we've coughed the ball up when attacking their line twice. We could (and should) be almost out of sight here.
Yep England have done all the attacking and seem to have the edge in the scrum. Argentina being kept in the game by England restart errors and bad ref calls ...
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TJ wrote:Has EJ not done his homework on the restarts? I have watched a lot of recent Argentinian games and they have a lot of variations on the restart. england don't seem to be expecting them
More silly catching errors. 2 blatant ones being Coles and Steward under no pressure knocking on. Greasy ball but you'd expect both to catch it.
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This is a hard watch, even allowing for the weather.
We don't have enough pace in the back line for deep kicks, and a chase to keep Argentina back in their own half, so they are getting much too easy access to our half.
We don't have enough pace in the back line for deep kicks, and a chase to keep Argentina back in their own half, so they are getting much too easy access to our half.
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Several England players taking an extra roll when going to ground, fortunate not to get pinged.
Too many unforced errors but conditions don't help.
Coles looks good, one drop not withstanding.
Too many unforced errors but conditions don't help.
Coles looks good, one drop not withstanding.
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mountain man wrote:Several England players taking an extra roll when going to ground, fortunate not to get pinged.
Too many unforced errors but conditions don't help.
Coles looks good, one drop not withstanding.
Really? Looked very nervy early doors.
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Rugby Fan wrote:This is a hard watch, even allowing for the weather.
We don't have enough pace in the back line for deep kicks, and a chase to keep Argentina back in their own half, so they are getting much too easy access to our half.
Yep, we've picked a power backline (at the expense of pace), yet we seem to be playing it like the opposite is true.
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Coles probably is nervy but doing ok I reckon
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First time really England have really challenged the lineout bit harsh pinging England there.
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That scrum looked like Argentina pushed early
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Well you pick fast backs and they can do that.
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Heaf wrote:That scrum looked like Argentina pushed early
Their front row also hit the deck first. The resulting penalty leads to a try...
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That was too easy - but came from a scrum pen that went the wrong way
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Behind again and a bit of pressure on England now.
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Finally some ambition from Argentina. Nice try.
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10 points now courtesy of Brace ...
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We'd made a break and looked dangerous thank goodness youngs decided to pass it to no one. Again.
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Yay. Well done Ben. Brilliant.
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That's knocked on. Not much but you can see. But he's not giving it is he.
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Some sloppy passing by England
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You can see the change in spin.
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That ball changes direction in the air ...
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Deserve to concede though. Please Jones make a change.
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To be fair to Jonker he had to ok it given what he had to work with
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Up to 15 dodgy points now
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Time to get to work England!
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Heaf wrote:That ball changes direction in the air ...
No it doesn't. Not in the slightest. He might have grazed the ball but "might" is not enough to make the call. No deviation, no change in spin. How slow was steward as well? Need a fast runner at 15
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Abject performance from England. Argentina have hardly done anything, but they've scored 24 points through various England errors.
Stop picking Youngs, for heaven's sake. Every time England get into the opposition 22, Youngs ruins the chance.
Stop picking Youngs, for heaven's sake. Every time England get into the opposition 22, Youngs ruins the chance.
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Come on England. You can see them trying to force it as theres no option but slow ball and no pace.
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TJ wrote:Heaf wrote:That ball changes direction in the air ...
No it doesn't. Not in the slightest. He might have grazed the ball but "might" is not enough to make the call. No deviation, no change in spin. How slow was steward as well? Need a fast runner at 15
You can see the change in spin though.
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Yes! JVP on
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Can this be the last we ever see of Youngs? Look at the difference?!!
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Mr Bounce wrote:Yes! JVP on
I see no discernable difference to the ponderous play beforehand though. None at all.
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