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Post by George Carlin Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:11 am

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29 threads. There is officially something wrong with us.

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Post by jimbopip Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:38 pm

GC, so you're swapping the Soap Evaders for the Tax Evaders the Cashmere Cowboys for the Cashmere Pashmines. How very Clarke Kentish of you.

Healey to Glasgow? Thompson to the Luvvies???
Thompson is far too good to play second fiddle to Blarehorn.
Also, why sign Miotti if we never play him?

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Post by Hazel Sapling Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:25 pm

Good assessment GC

Probably argue that the derbies and fixture list skew the results somewhat. Benetton got 10 points from their two games at Zebre. They won all home games except against the Bulls and lost all away games except against Zebre. Have games against Ulster, Munster, the remaining three Saffa sides and O's/Cardiff left.

The Welsh sides have played (I think) eight games against each other and have a total of 81 points. Working at about five points a game, that would give half their points as they can't go abroad. If my maths is correct (doing this back of the envelope), that would give Welsh clubs around 40 points from the 28 games against non-Welsh opponents. Flicking through the results, Welsh clubs seemed to do quite well against the Saffa sides.

I think Wales has the highest proportion of any country relying on internal games. Scotland is about 20% with one game in hand for Lions vs Glasgow, Italy 30%, Ireland/SA 30ish% with Ulster due an away game vs Sharks and a SA derby to also play.

So all in all, I would probably say the Italians have become dangerous in their own backyard, Wales are falling back, Scottish clubs are struggling with consistency/power of the big sides and Ireland/SA are the cream of the crop. Fair reflection of the countries national teams

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Post by Mcsweens Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:35 pm

RDW wrote:Speaking of Bennett, he's now played more games for Edinburgh than Glasgow, and has been at Edinburgh longer.

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First started for Glasgow as a teenager in Dublin iirc then whisked straight away to Clermont for 2 or 3 seasons. Guy was a pure thoroughbred. I had a relation that was a contemporary of his in the Glasgow system at the time, I believe, and he was always seen as different class mentally and emotionally.

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Post by George Carlin Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:21 pm

jimbopip wrote:GC, so you're swapping the Soap Evaders for the Tax Evaders the Cashmere Cowboys for the Cashmere Pashmines. How very Clarke Kentish of you.

Healey to Glasgow? Thompson to the Luvvies???
Thompson is far too good to play second fiddle to Blarehorn.  
Also, why sign Miotti if we never play him?
Only Daughter was doing her school entrance exams for a famous Kent school which shall remain nameless to protect the innocent.

Stressful as sh!t. Had to do the usual thing of pretending that if she tried her best, it didn't matter if she didn't get in. Having paid thousands in tutoring to others over the past 14 months and with Mrs GC spent hundred of hours of my life to supplement, sitting next to them whilst my best years gurgle down the pan trying not to be visibly apoplectic when they cannot remember how ratios or basic calculus works. Bill McLaren forbid that she or her brother experience a modicum of stress, like.
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Post by jimbopip Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:09 am

George Carlin wrote:
jimbopip wrote:GC, so you're swapping the Soap Evaders for the Tax Evaders the Cashmere Cowboys for the Cashmere Pashmines. How very Clarke Kentish of you.

Healey to Glasgow? Thompson to the Luvvies???
Thompson is far too good to play second fiddle to Blarehorn.  
Also, why sign Miotti if we never play him?
Only Daughter was doing her school entrance exams for a famous Kent school which shall remain nameless to protect the innocent.

Stressful as sh!t. Had to do the usual thing of pretending that if she tried her best, it didn't matter if she didn't get in. Having paid thousands in tutoring to others over the past 14 months and with Mrs GC spent hundred of hours of my life to supplement, sitting next to them whilst my best years gurgle down the pan trying not to be visibly apoplectic when they cannot remember how ratios or basic calculus works. Bill McLaren forbid that she or her brother experience a modicum of stress, like.

As a lifelong socialist and an ex-teacher I shall allow you to guess my opinion on selective/paid for education. However, as a parent I can only sympathise: everything you do is wrong and will come back to haunt you in one way or another. Hope that makes you feel better.

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Post by jimbopip Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:58 am

On more rugby related matters (how very dare anyone ramble on about families and other non rugby matters on these boards?) I see the Glasgow FB page has put up pix of ; Ally Miller, Simon Berghan and the lesser spotted Miotti today. So, it'll be all change for Stormers.

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Post by bsando Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:09 am

tigertattie wrote:Watching the world’s strongest man and again crying that Tom Stoltman didn’t take up rugby.

6ft 8 and 28 stone. Imagine that off the base of a scrum running at Owen Farrell.

He’s from Invergordon and they have a rugby team. Shame he wasn’t able to give it a go but being that massive must surely make you pretty slow.

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Post by RiscaGame Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:57 am

bsando wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Watching the world’s strongest man and again crying that Tom Stoltman didn’t take up rugby.

6ft 8 and 28 stone. Imagine that off the base of a scrum running at Owen Farrell.

He’s from Invergordon and they have a rugby team. Shame he wasn’t able to give it a go but being that massive must surely make you pretty slow.

Used to hate going there to play them. But the bus trip back was always fun.

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Post by jimbopip Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:16 pm

Well, looking forward to the Stormers' visit;

Bhatti probably due a rest. Probably McBeth to start. No word on Kebble, so possibly Bhatti to bench.

Big Richie has played about six games on the trot so maybe he'll be rested.

Carolan was on the Warrior' website talking about "this block of games" so I'd imagine that there will be a fair bit of rotation. Also, he talked a bit about Sam Johnson and Shug Jones.

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Post by Hazel Sapling Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:53 pm

Edinburgh team to play Zebre

15. Harry Paterson (3)

14. Jack Blain (21)
13. Mark Bennett (78)
12. Cammy Hutchison (15)
11. Blair Kinghorn (127)

10. Charlie Savala (22)
9. Charlie Shiel (50)

1. Boan Venter (38)
2. Dave Cherry (62)
3. Angus Williams (18)
4. Sam Skinner (6)
5. Jamie Hodgson (47)
6. Luke Crosbie (80) CAPTAIN
7. Connor Boyle (27)
8. Nick Haining (31)

Replacements

16. Patrick Harrison (10)
17. Nick Auterac (2)
18. Luan de Bruin (16)
19. Marshall Sykes (33)
20. Viliame Mata (106)
21. Ben Vellacott (29)
22. Jaco van der Walt (93)
23. James Lang (30)

Unavailable: Emiliano Boffelli, Matt Currie, Chris Dean, Wes Goosen, Darcy Graham, Damien Hoyland, Henry Immelman, Adam McBurney, Stuart McInally, Ben Muncaster, Pierce Phillips, Duhan van der Merwe, Hamish Watson.

Rest protocol: Grant Gilchrist, WP Nel, Jamie Ritchie, Pierre Schoeman.

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Post by Hazel Sapling Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:57 pm

Good to see Cherry and Haining back in action with Ritchie getting a much needed break.

It has taken six back-three player injuries to get Jack Blain back in the side and push Kinghorn to wing. Surprised to see Paterson over Kinghorn at FB but assume Kinghorn could come into a secondary playmaker role off set moves.

Hopefully Edinburgh can get back to winning ways ahead of the Six Nations

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Post by BigGee Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:52 pm

Glasgow Warriors team to face DHL Stormers at Scotstoun, Sunday 8 January, kick-off 3pm. Tickets are still available for the match at glasgowwarriors.org, or you can follow all the action as it happens in our Live Match Centre.

1. Jamie Bhatti (78)
2. George Turner (86)
3. Lucio Sordoni (6)
4. Lewis Bean (26)
5. JP du Preez (11)
6. Matt Fagerson (86)
7. Sione Vailanu (7)
8. Jack Dempsey (29)

9. George Horne (91)
10. Tom Jordan (11)
11. Kyle Steyn (C) (57)
12. Huw Jones (51)
13. Sione Tuipulotu (29)
14. Sebastian Cancelliere (19)
15. Ollie Smith (23)

Replacements

16. Fraser Brown (132)
17. Nathan McBeth (11)
18. Simon Berghan (20)
19. Alex Samuel (2)
20. Euan Ferrie (4)
21. Cameron Neild (3)
22. Ali Price (119)
23. Domingo Miotti (14)

Unavailable for selection: Gregor Brown (foot), Scott Cummings (foot), Rory Darge (ankle), Allan Dell (calf), Zander Fagerson (hamstring), Oli Kebble (shoulder), Jack Mann (head), Enrique Pieretto (chest), Ross Thompson (ankle), Murphy Walker (neck), Ryan Wilson (knee).

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Post by BigGee Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:54 pm

A bit more gentle rotation from Glasgow

Shuggy comes back in and Ritchie Gray sits out.

What has happened to Murphy Walker? He can't seem to buy a game atm.

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Post by TJ Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:38 pm

Good job Edinburgh are playing Zebre. Thats hardly a team to frighten opponents. We might even give Zebre a win!

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Post by demosthenes Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:33 pm

BigGee wrote:A bit more gentle rotation from Glasgow

Shuggy comes back in and Ritchie Gray sits out.

What has happened to Murphy Walker? He can't seem to buy a game atm.

Walker listed as unavailable due to neck injury.

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Post by BigGee Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:31 pm

demosthenes wrote:
BigGee wrote:A bit more gentle rotation from Glasgow

Shuggy comes back in and Ritchie Gray sits out.

What has happened to Murphy Walker? He can't seem to buy a game atm.

Walker listed as unavailable due to neck injury.

That would explain it then. It looks like Berghan may be the third man for the 6N

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Post by RDW Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:27 am

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport-columnists-rugby/arid-41041502.html

Good article about Healy - it's a good sign that the club and fans wanted to keep him

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Post by BigGee Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:42 am

For anyone that thinks that the Blair Switch Project is over!

From Alasdair Reid - In the Times



Mike Blair, the Edinburgh head coach, has made it clear that Blair Kinghorn’s move from fly half to wing for today’s clash with Zebre is a strictly temporary arrangement and that the 25-year-old will be back in the team’s driving seat before too long.

Kinghorn had a difficult autumn international series as he lost his starting place with Scotland — first to Adam Hastings and then to Finn Russell. Questions about his long-term positional future were also raised this week when Edinburgh confirmed that the Munster fly half Ben Healy will be joining them next season.

However, Blair, who was partially responsible for moving Kinghorn into the fly-half position in the first place, insisted that the team’s current back-three injury crisis was the sole reason for Kinghorn returning to the wing.

“We are missing a fair few in the back three,” he said. “We had an embarrassment of riches there but we have picked up a lot of injuries. Blair has obviously been capped many times by Scotland in that position and we feel that this is the best move for the balance of the team this week.

“I’m really confident that Blair has shown enough over the last 18 months or so to merit that status as our number one 10. We are very fortunate that he is an international class back-three player as well and is happy to help us out in that position this week.”

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Edinburgh’s recent run of poor results has coincided with the absence of Darcy Graham, who was in prolific form for the club before he picked up a serious knee injury while playing against Munster at the beginning of last month. To add to their woes, Emiliano Boffelli and Duhan van der Merwe, the other two-thirds of their stellar back three, are also missing at the moment, although Blair expects both to return to training shortly — they could be available for selection again as early as next week’s European trip to Castres.

With Dave Cherry and Nick Haining returning, there is a grizzled look to the pack Edinburgh will field against Zebre, with the backs providing a much more callow and inexperienced dimension. Blair stopped short of admitting that their playbook means a more forward-oriented game that usual, but admitted: “There is always a balance to what you are trying to do. Zebre have got a good defensive lineout but we believe we can also challenge their attacking lineout, so there will be some games to play in and around that.

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“We want to find some balance in our game and be ruthless when we get opportunities, whether that’s in our maul or finishing our attacks. We want to be able to balance that because we have a really talented back division as well.”

Harry Paterson, who was a late addition to the team for both 1872 Cup clashes with Glasgow recently, continues at full back in place of Boffelli. Van der Merwe’s wing slot is given to Jack Blain, whose only outing for Edinburgh so far this season was in the away win against Cardiff in October, when the team was shorn of most of its international players.

Blain, 22, was a rising star at Edinburgh under Richard Cockerill, Blair’s predecessor as head coach, but his career has seemed to stall over the past 18 months. With few opportunities to play for the club, he took himself off to Australia last summer and signed on with the Sydney-based Warringah Rats. Blair believes it was a positive move for the player.

“He came back rejuvenated and ready to go,” Blair said. “And fresh in mind as well, so it worked well for him. He has played some Super6 and he played a couple of the [pre-season] warm-up games for us as well, so he’s been in and around the group. He’s a young player, but he’s had good experience over the last two or three seasons.”

Even without many of their leading names, Edinburgh will start as clear favourites to overturn the run of form that has seen them win just one of their past six games by beating the struggling Italians. Zebre have not won a game this season and while Blair made it clear they will still be treated with respect he also expressed full confidence in his own side’s abilities and desire.

“I don’t think there will be any complacency at all,” he said. “The side Zebre have been able to select is full of really powerful and exciting players. There is a balance here but I believe the group we have selected has a huge amount of character and a huge amount to prove and I’m really excited to see them take on this challenge.”

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Post by BigGee Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:21 pm

Edinburgh finally huff and puff over the line, good try from Sheil but a great offload out of the maul from Connor Boyle

5-0 Edinburgh

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Post by BigGee Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:26 pm

And another one, good pressure from Edinburgh, who seem to have riden the Zebra wave in the first quarter.

Haining puts Blain away into the corner

10 - 0 Edinburgh

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Post by BigGee Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:45 pm

Neither Shiel nor Savala are really showing me that they are up to playing at this level, so many mistakes unfortunately.

Harry Paterson is doing his best as well, but looks very lightweight.

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Post by BigGee Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:06 pm

Edinburgh are working hard to keep Zebra in the game, they score in the corner.

All came from an awful Kinghorn kick

10-5 Edinburgh

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Post by BigGee Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:16 pm

Edinburgh imploding, another Zebre try

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Post by TJ Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:56 pm

TJ wrote:Good job Edinburgh are playing Zebre.  Thats hardly a team to frighten opponents.  We might even give Zebre a win!

nearly did. that was pure mince

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Post by BigGee Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:00 pm

Crikey, they made hard work of that, only really started playing once behind.

Sheil had a terrible game and Savala not much better, you can definitely see the need for Healy to come in. Vellacott upped the pace as well when he came on and you do wonder why Blair is not giving him a run as the starter.

Still a win and 5 pts with a much weakened side and a game they could easily have lost. Hope that gets them back on track, but I remain to be convinced.

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Post by bsando Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:26 pm

Far from convinced with Edinburgh at the moment. I’d love to see Blair do well but equally if he doesn’t I’d be more than happy to see a new coach brought in. Not sure what the SRU would constitute as not good enough considering it’s a Scottish coach who’s been brought through and given their first big chance. Anything below 10th in the URC and a poor showing in Europe would be entering sacking territory if you ask me. Hopefully it won’t come to that and Edinburgh will improve.

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Post by BigGee Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:53 pm

What seems clear with Edinburgh is that there is a big drop off, whenever they don't have their best team out.

They are also seriously undercooked at half back, with only BV and BK (sometimes) cutting the mustard

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:05 pm

Frankly relieved to stop the rot and get a win. Agree about the half back problem, and Savala in particular looks like he just isn't cut out for this level. I don't see the potential, and think Jaco is a much better bet for cover. Harry Patterson needs to go the gym as well. Far too undercooked for this level. I know we have an awful lot of injuries, so don't want to be too harsh on Blair, but we just can't seem to play for 80 minutes, and when we go off the boil during games, we really are beyond rubbish.

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Post by TJ Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:55 pm

We have certainly lost the toughness that Cockers gave to Edinburgh

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:04 am

Nice Rugby Pass, Jamie Lyall interview with Tom Jordan.

For the absence of doubt, it is 2 more years till he is SQ.


There have been times during his three-year, pandemic-ravaged stint in Scotland that Tom Jordan has wondered what on earth he signed up for. Why he swapped home and familiarity and a shot at New Zealand’s provincial showpiece for hours of fruitless training sessions and no hint of elite-level action.

Jordan pitched up at Ayrshire Bulls in October 2019, freshly furnished with a degree in finance and accounting, and out of the professional set-up at the Waikato union. He figured broadening his horizons was a better bet than moving back to the family house north of Auckland and that five months of semi-professional Scottish rugby would sharpen his wits and his skills as a burgeoning 21-year-old fly-half. He had no Scottish heritage but a UK passport thanks to his English grandmother. He might end up bagging a lower-league contract in London and a nice job in the city to go with it. If he didn’t, he could go back to New Zealand just in time for the new season to start.


Five months have become 39. Coronavirus took a sledgehammer to the sport. Deals elsewhere were non-existent. Glasgow called Jordan in to train for a closer look at his skills, but there was no sniff of game time. In early 2021, with Warriors competing in the Rainbow Cup, Jordan felt hopelessly stuck. All he could do was keep pushing, keep grinding, keep showing up.

“Even Nat One clubs in England were like, ‘nah’. I was thinking, ‘am I even good enough?’.”

“I hadn’t been offered anything, I was just at Glasgow on a little training retainer, enough to get by,” he tells RugbyPass. “I’m over here chipping away but where’s this going? What am I doing?

“I was trying to look everywhere to get a gig. Nothing was coming up. Even Nat One clubs in England were like, ‘nah’. I was thinking, ‘am I even good enough?’.

“At the time, Glasgow had Adam Hastings, Brandon Thomson, Ross Thompson and a few academy 10s, and five or six midfielders. Are ten guys going to get injured for me to have a go? It was not looking positive. With covid, nothing was going on. I just felt a bit lost, you know?”

If Jordan was lost back then, he has emphatically found his way now. He steered the Bulls to the Super6 title later that year, and Glasgow signed him up for the rest of the season. Since Franco Smith took charge in the summer, Jordan has been the South African’s go-to man in the 10 jersey. He has climbed so far above the National One clubs who turned him down that they can’t see the studs on the soles of his boots.

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His rise has taken longer than he hoped. In New Zealand, he was part of the Waikato academy while winning two club titles with the Hamilton Old Boys alongside several future All Blacks. He trained with the Chiefs Super Rugby group and played a handful of development squad fixtures. That felt like sharing the field with demigods. Still, he could not make the grade for the famous National Provincial Championship. Through a friend of a friend, Ayr provided an intriguing ticket to something fresh.


“I would train with the NPC squad but never quite cracked a game,” Jordan says. “It just didn’t happen for me. After three years in the academy, I had an offer to go back home to North Harbour but I wanted to finish my studies and move on.

“A lot of people in New Zealand don’t really know what rugby opportunities are out here. A mate of mine knew Lars Morris, a second-row from Bay of Plenty. He had gone to Ayr for a few years and told me they were starting up a semi-professional team. Lars knew Peter Murchie, who was coaching them at the time, and told him I was keen to come over.

“I don’t know what was the final straw for me going, I just wanted to travel and go off on my own. I wanted to keep exploring and doing stuff. I just didn’t want to go back and go to work. I wanted to keep pushing that boat out.”

My first goal for this year was just to play one game. I didn’t know when it was going to be, I just wanted to play one game and I was going to work my arse off, do anything to achieve that.

In two seasons with the Bulls, Jordan shone. The first campaign was curtailed by covid at the knockout stage, but in the second, he was their playmaker-in-chief, and man of the match in the final victory over Southern Knights. The Super6 was designed to bridge the gap between clubland and the URC, and there are opportunities to blood emerging talent against hardened senior specimens.

“When I started at Hamilton Old Boys, the other fly-half was 36 so literally double my age,” Jordan says. “It’s different here, a lot of the young guys are in the academies and not really club players through and through. They are academy players who get released.

“The young boys haven’t experienced that club rugby culture or men’s rugby. Even at Ayr when we had the academy players come down, they just hadn’t experienced bus trips away, that real club footy stuff. That was eye-opening.”

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Jordan scored his first Glasgow try to help sink Edinburgh at Murrayfield last Friday. (Photo by Mark Scates/SNS Group via Getty Images)
Jordan had no idea what this season might hold. A professional debut would have sated him. He could never have envisaged starting nine of the opening 10 URC matches, of being given the nod for Smith’s first match as head coach, a wounding curtain-raiser at Benetton. There have been trips to Parma, Durban and Dublin. To cap an intoxicating four months, he ran out in front of 25,000 at Murrayfield last Friday in the 1872 Cup decider, by far the biggest crowd he has ever played in front of.

In this swirling bowl of fire and fury, Jordan thrived. He ran in his first Glasgow try and sat Scotland centre Mark Bennett on his rump with a fend strong enough to puncture chainmail. The Warriors scalped Edinburgh for the second week running and claimed back the trophy. Though it will take two more years of residency for Jordan to become Scottish-qualified, those running the national set-up will be heartened by his progress.

“It’s pretty cool, the difference from a year ago to now,” Jordan says. “I would have been playing the Super6 final then. You just want to go again. It’s hard to find that experience elsewhere, in day-to-day stuff.

“My first goal for this year was just to play one game. I didn’t know when it was going to be, I just wanted to play one game and I was going to work my arse off, do anything to achieve that. To keep playing and be involved each week, I’m really grateful and keen to keep building. I know I can improve on a lot of areas.

“I thought at this level it was going to be a huge step up but it was a lot closer than I expected. You realise you can compete with these guys and take more responsibility.”

It dawns on Jordan that he hasn’t paused to take all of this in, that he is actually living the dream he felt slipping through his fingers doing endless yoyo runs with an even more endless list of fly-halves ahead of him.

Like Franco says, you don’t need to lose to get better: keep winning, keep improving. We win on the weekends and we still get grilled on Monday for things we could do better.

“You go through those real battler days when you’re getting on a bit – still young at 23 or 24, but a lot of people crack it when they’re 19, 20, 21. I’d been here a while and it still hadn’t happened. It just made me more ready.

“When I was younger back in Waikato, I probably thought I was ready but I wasn’t. I might have played three games in the NPC and then been told I needed to work on a few things, dropped off, and not reached my full potential.

“I’ve managed to be in the professional environment with Glasgow for over a year, build up all these skills, and when I got my opportunity I wasn’t that nervous, I was like, ‘yes, this is the right time, I’ve put in two or three more years than I thought I would to get here but I feel way more ready now’.”

The champion Stormers arrive at Scotstoun on Sunday with Springboks in tow and Glasgow’s five-match winning run in their sights. Jordan starts at 10. Another dizzying experience. Another mighty foe. Another chance for Glasgow to burnish their play-off credentials.

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Glasgow Warriors have not lost since a trip to Leinster and the RDS in late November. (Photo by PA)
“We’re getting really solid in all points,” he says. “Our defence has taken a lot of steps forward from the start of the season. We back our defence and we know we can get turnovers within three or four phases.

“Like Franco says, you don’t need to lose to get better: keep winning, keep improving. We win on the weekends and we still get grilled on Monday for things we could do better. We know there is so much more all of us can do. Going up against the top teams when they’re fully stacked, we need to be peaking.”

Jordan’s ascent was slow and painful, then suddenly giddying. The peak? Who knows where that might come.

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Post by jimbopip Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:09 pm

Boys, boys!!! WTF Shocked even for the Luvvies last night was exceptionally limp. Really? I mean really? I have no words. In it's own way it was as dire as Glasgow getting 70 odd out on them by the Ladyboys in Dublin.

I know I am tempting fate posting this just before Scotstoun hosts the current chmpeens and it may bite me on tmy amply padded posterior by teatime. But I'm willing to gamble.

Also, Tory MP's made over £15 million in second jobs since the last election. furious
If you listen you can hear FES laughing that anyone would be an MP for that pittance.

oh, and Bennetton clap clap clap

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Post by bsando Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:10 pm

Great read! Cheers for sharing big gee, I can't tell if the Super 6 helped him or hindered him Laugh considering he's pretty well established as Glasgows first choice 10 I think he's benefited from his move. Great to get a players perspective on the Scottish system though. Perhaps the SRU need to have some guys overseas spreading the word about opportunities in the Super 6 so we gain a few more players of his ilk. Hilarious that it took word of mouth for Jordan to come over. The super 6 may not be a perfect solution but at least it is something.

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Post by bsando Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:31 pm

Hidalgo-Clyne (rememebr him?) was off the bench for Benettons win over Ulster yesterday. Has really cut his own corner of the pro market by being the reliable backup SH for numerous pro sides across Europe.

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:42 pm

bsando wrote:Hidalgo-Clyne (rememebr him?) was off the bench for Benettons win over Ulster yesterday. Has really cut his own corner of the pro market by being the reliable backup SH for numerous pro sides across Europe.

Can't help feeling though that when he looks back on his career, he might be a little dissapointed

The league young player of the year, the coming SH for Scotland and he was a good player.

A casualty of the Cockers regime or someone who thought he had arrived before he really had?

I bet he was one of those players who used to drive their cars from the changing room to the training pitch!

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:11 pm

What a try from Glasgow, coast to coast

5-0 Glasgow

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:15 pm

Bean gets 10 mins for stopping a quick tap

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:17 pm

Dweba goes over for the Stormers

7-5 Stormers

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:20 pm

and Glasgow straight back with a try from Steyn

This has the makings of a crazy game

Horne misses the conversion

10-7 Glasgow

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:34 pm

Next one from the Stormers following a series of phases on our line

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12-10 Stormers

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:52 pm

Well, another fabulous move from Glasgow to end the half comes just short.

It's been breathless stuff, going to be some tired bodies out there later. One thing to say about Glasgow is that their fitness is light years away from where it was last year, the pre breakfast fat club seems to be paying dividends.

Could be last man standing out there.

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:13 pm

Glasgow have not let up at all, constant pressure and Shuggy cuts a brilliant line to score

17-12 Glasgow


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Stormers come back from a missed touch from Glasgow

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Post by bsando Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:35 pm

Brown got clattered, good to see him walk off though.

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:42 pm

Glasgow turn down a kickable shot and scrum again

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:47 pm

What a chip through from Tuipolotu

Canciliere scores again!

24-17 Glasgow and BP


Wow, what a game, 80 mins of excellence from Glasgow to beat the champs!

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Post by BigGee Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:48 pm

Huw Jones MoM

Surely back into the Scotland squad on the back of that!

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Post by bsando Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:48 pm

What a grubber and try!! Well done Glasgow

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:49 pm

What a treat of a match served up by Glasgow today. Four great tries and a really entertaining performance.

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Post by NeilyBroon Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:51 pm

Cracking match, best I've seen Glasgow play this season!

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Post by NeilyBroon Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:53 pm

BigGee wrote:Huw Jones MoM

Surely back into the Scotland squad on the back of that!

So he'll be toonie's 4th choice centre

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