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Post by king_carlos Sat 07 Jan 2023, 11:55 am

First topic message reminder :

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/06/eddie-jones-mistakes-with-england-why-i-got-the-sack-rugby-union

Interview with Jones about being sacked there. Some interesting stuff in amongst it.

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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:35 pm

eirebilly_01 wrote:All that promise Italy showed last week has disappeared. Cynical and stupid so far. England could run up a big score here.

Or was France just undercooked and England and playing controlled rugby

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:37 pm

I wish they would shop kicking the ball away...
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Post by doctor_grey Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:38 pm

eirebilly_01 wrote:All that promise Italy showed last week has disappeared. Cynical and stupid so far. England could run up a big score here.
Agree about Italy. For me, neither team looks exceptionally exceptional.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:38 pm

Geordie wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Geordie wrote:It's rhe Willis show at the moment

He's playing well...try was a gift, but defensively he's been strong. Would still like to see sons form of a carrying game from him.

He's been carrying hard Sgt?

I've not seen it GF.

Who is Maggie Aphonsea and why is she commenting offering "expert opinion" on this game?

I don't see myself as an old fashioned type type bloke but would like to hear from people like Neil Back, Richard Hill etc.....players that have played at this level....rant over.

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:38 pm

Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:All that promise Italy showed last week has disappeared. Cynical and stupid so far. England could run up a big score here.

Or was France just undercooked and England and playing controlled rugby

Harsh on Italy, thought they were very good against France last week. Proper open rugby. None of that this week although, as you say, England playing very controlled rugby and not giving the chance to play.

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:39 pm

Good play from Malins...
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:39 pm

That was lovely from Malins.

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:41 pm

This is is ridiculous.
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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:42 pm

Oh wow, savage call and wildly incorrect for me. No obstruction.

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:43 pm

Try scored anyways so all good.

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:43 pm

Doesn't matter in the end, but was a very frustrating call.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:43 pm

Why isn’t Trev here to tell us how the obstruction was the correct call?

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Post by doctor_grey Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:44 pm

Actually, I am happier to see the try come from the pack at this point.

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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:45 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Geordie wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Geordie wrote:It's rhe Willis show at the moment

He's playing well...try was a gift, but defensively he's been strong. Would still like to see sons form of a carrying game from him.

He's been carrying hard Sgt?

I've not seen it GF.

Who is Maggie Aphonsea and why is she commenting offering "expert opinion" on this game?

I don't see myself as an old fashioned type type bloke but would like to hear from people like Neil Back, Richard Hill etc.....players that have played at this level....rant over.

What is it you don't like about Willis. He's an almost complete flanker.

Agree about the expert opinion though.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:48 pm

Nicely done from England. The forwards have completely monstered Italy's and it's been plain sailing.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:49 pm

Italy have been woeful.

Nothing like the spark they brought last week
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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:49 pm

Good start for England more of the same in the second half please.

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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:52 pm

tigertattie wrote:Italy have been woeful.

Nothing like the spark they brought last week

Or france were not at the races and England not letting them play

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Post by lostinwales Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:52 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Geordie wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Geordie wrote:It's rhe Willis show at the moment

He's playing well...try was a gift, but defensively he's been strong. Would still like to see sons form of a carrying game from him.

He's been carrying hard Sgt?

I've not seen it GF.

Who is Maggie Aphonsea and why is she commenting offering "expert opinion" on this game?

I don't see myself as an old fashioned type type bloke but would like to hear from people like Neil Back, Richard Hill etc.....players that have played at this level....rant over.

An exceptional England flanker from a few years ago with an Italian surname. I am amazed you don't know who she is because she does a great deal of 'expert opinion' work these days - particularly when Italy are playing (surname again).

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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:52 pm

Smith should start the second half...

Why did Jones not like Willis

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Post by mountain man Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:53 pm

That's more like it. Willis excellent, itoje back to form, Dombrandt playing like we know he can. Lawrence good at 12
Much better shape to side.
Promising first half

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:53 pm

I don't dislike Willis, just have reservations...I think we have better options. He's playing well though.

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Post by mountain man Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:56 pm

Alphonsi RWC winner with England so think she knows what's what. One of best women players.
Smith and Arundel could run riot later on.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:56 pm

Overall what I'd want to see from us. Couple of quibbles but good so far. Same again for first 20 and then some subs please.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:56 pm

lostinwales wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Geordie wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Geordie wrote:It's rhe Willis show at the moment

He's playing well...try was a gift, but defensively he's been strong. Would still like to see sons form of a carrying game from him.

He's been carrying hard Sgt?

I've not seen it GF.

Who is Maggie Aphonsea and why is she commenting offering "expert opinion" on this game?

I don't see myself as an old fashioned type type bloke but would like to hear from people like Neil Back, Richard Hill etc.....players that have played at this level....rant over.

An exceptional England flanker from a few years ago with an Italian surname. I am amazed you don't know who she is because she does a great deal of 'expert opinion' work these days - particularly when Italy are playing (surname again).

You really do have to wonder about some people.

Maggie would have walked into many a men’s team
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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:57 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I don't dislike Willis, just have reservations...I think we have better options. He's playing well though.

Who and what do they offer different that Jack doesnt

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Post by Heaf Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:59 pm

eirebilly_01 wrote:Oh wow, savage call and wildly incorrect for me. No obstruction.

Had to go out so just catching up ... crazy call

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Post by mountain man Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:59 pm

Willis England best player in first half. 15 tackles so far and try. Couple turnovers.

Yeah he's been terrible 😀

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:02 pm

tigertattie wrote:

Maggie would have walked into many a men’s team

Highly doubt it.

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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:06 pm

England still in the changing room

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:06 pm

Much better from Italy, that's how they were playing last week.

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:09 pm

I guarantee that if an English player was shoving his elbows into an Italian's players face on the floor it would have been a penalty.
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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:10 pm

Cumbrian wrote:I guarantee that if an English player was shoving his elbows into an Italian's players face on the floor it would have been a penalty.

Exactly

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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:10 pm

eirebilly_01 wrote:Much better from Italy, that's how they were playing last week.

Until England came back out the changing room

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:13 pm

Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:Much better from Italy, that's how they were playing last week.

Until England came back out the changing room

Jaysus wept man. Can ye not give a little compliment to a team playing England when they do something good?

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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:13 pm

Why is the hands to Farrels face not checked?

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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:13 pm

eirebilly_01 wrote:
Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:Much better from Italy, that's how they were playing last week.

Until England came back out the changing room

Jaysus wept man. Can ye not give a little compliment to a team playing England when they do something good?

What's Jesus got to do with it? Why is he weeping?


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Post by Heaf Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:14 pm

Geordie wrote:
Cumbrian wrote:I guarantee that if an English player was shoving his elbows into an Italian's players face on the floor it would have been a penalty.

Exactly

2 instances of foul play by Italy let go now ...

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Post by BigGee Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:14 pm

Negri took out two English props in one hit there!

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Post by lostinwales Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:14 pm

How many fecking times is Farrell going to do a bad kick through in the 22?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:14 pm

tigertattie wrote:
lostinwales wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Geordie wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Geordie wrote:It's rhe Willis show at the moment

He's playing well...try was a gift, but defensively he's been strong. Would still like to see sons form of a carrying game from him.

He's been carrying hard Sgt?

I've not seen it GF.

Who is Maggie Aphonsea and why is she commenting offering "expert opinion" on this game?

I don't see myself as an old fashioned type type bloke but would like to hear from people like Neil Back, Richard Hill etc.....players that have played at this level....rant over.

An exceptional England flanker from a few years ago with an Italian surname. I am amazed you don't know who she is because she does a great deal of 'expert opinion' work these days - particularly when Italy are playing (surname again).

You really do have to wonder about some people.

Maggie would have walked into many a men’s team

Some people? I would appreciate it if you offered up a counter rather than a personal attack.

I have zero interest in women's rugby and I still don't see the relevance to her giving "expert opinions" in this game tbh. I'm all for her doing the women's games.

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:15 pm

Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:
Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:Much better from Italy, that's how they were playing last week.

Until England came back out the changing room

Jaysus wept man. Can ye not give a little compliment to a team playing England when they do something good?

What's Jesus got to do with it? Why is he weeping?

I guess not then, ye are just one of those fans that cannot be impartial. Enjoy thumbsup

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:15 pm

Have to wonder how we can see someone rubbing the hands and fingers across the eyes and face of Farrell and think yeah all good.

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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:17 pm

eirebilly_01 wrote:
Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:
Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:Much better from Italy, that's how they were playing last week.

Until England came back out the changing room

Jaysus wept man. Can ye not give a little compliment to a team playing England when they do something good?

What's Jesus got to do with it? Why is he weeping?

I guess not then, ye are just one of those fans that cannot be impartial. Enjoy thumbsup

Lol you really haven't seen many of my posts then.

England have never been in any kind of trouble in this game bar the five mins after half time when they were not alert.

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Post by BigGee Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:20 pm

That pass was asking to be intercepted!

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:22 pm

Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:
Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:
Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:Much better from Italy, that's how they were playing last week.

Until England came back out the changing room

Jaysus wept man. Can ye not give a little compliment to a team playing England when they do something good?

What's Jesus got to do with it? Why is he weeping?

I guess not then, ye are just one of those fans that cannot be impartial. Enjoy thumbsup

Lol you really haven't seen many of my posts then.

England have never been in any kind of trouble in this game bar the five mins after half time when they were not alert.

England have not been in any trouble no. Again, it was good play by Italy to score the try. Its not always down to England being switched off or not alert when a team scores against them. Sometimes other teams actually do something good...

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:22 pm

BigGee wrote:That pass was asking to be intercepted!

One of those that if it breaks for you, it puts you in behind. Big risk though.
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Post by Cumbrian Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:24 pm

Good to see Polledri on.
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Post by Geordie Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:26 pm

eirebilly_01 wrote:
Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:
Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:
Geordie wrote:
eirebilly_01 wrote:Much better from Italy, that's how they were playing last week.

Until England came back out the changing room

Jaysus wept man. Can ye not give a little compliment to a team playing England when they do something good?

What's Jesus got to do with it? Why is he weeping?

I guess not then, ye are just one of those fans that cannot be impartial. Enjoy thumbsup

Lol you really haven't seen many of my posts then.

England have never been in any kind of trouble in this game bar the five mins after half time when they were not alert.

England have not been in any trouble no. Again, it was good play by Italy to score the try. Its not always down to England being switched off or not alert when a team scores against them. Sometimes other teams actually do something good...

And yet often it is. If a team totally switches off...then it's not great play is it?

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Post by BigGee Sun 12 Feb 2023, 4:27 pm

Cumbrian wrote:Good to see Polledri on.

Probably about the most positive thing about this match so far.

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