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The 2023 Cricket World Cup
England are the defending champions, and they're also the reigning T20 World Champions. Doubleplusgood, eh? They're looking to be the first nation to win consecutive ODI World Cups since the Aussie vintage of 1999-2007. Biggest adversaries to that are likely to be India, who haven't won a major global competition since the 2013 Champions Trophy, but will no doubt be heartened by the knowledge that the last three ODI World Cups have been won by a host nation.
Five-time winners Australia can never be ruled out, while Pakistan are fueled by a burning motivation to win the World Cup in the homeland of their greatest rivals. New Zealand have made the last two finals - losing the last on boundary count, would you believe? - and will hope to make the final step this year.
South Africa will presumably think they're due to win something, as they've not won a global competition since the 1998 Champions Trophy, while the Afghans will believe they can spin anyone into submission. Bangladesh will be hoping to make a sizable impact at the ODI World Cup for the first time.
Sri Lanka breezed through qualifying and will be encouraged by making the recent Asia Cup final, even if they did get hammered in said final. The Netherlands round off the ten teams after performing minor miracles in qualification, which of course means the West Indies, the winners of the first two ODI World Cups, will be missing out on this tournament for the very first time.
The ten-team format for the World Cup remains as simple as ever. Ten teams all play each other once, and the top four teams in the group at the end of it go through to the semi-finals, where it becomes a straight knockout. 48 matches total. There will be reserve days for the three knockout matches and, if necessary, Super Overs. But you can't win games on boundary count anymore...
- Fixtures:
- October 5 - England vs New Zealand (0930 BST)
October 6 - Pakistan vs Netherlands (0930 BST)
October 7 - Bangladesh vs Afghanistan (0600 BST)
October 7 - South Africa vs Sri Lanka (0930 BST)
October 8 - India vs Australia (0930 BST)
October 9 - New Zealand vs Netherlands (0930 BST)
October 10 - England vs Bangladesh (0600 BST)
October 10 - Pakistan vs Sri Lanka (0930 BST)
October 11 - India vs Afghanistan (0930 BST)
October 12 - Australia vs South Africa (0930 BST)
October 13 - New Zealand vs Bangladesh (0930 BST)
October 14 - India vs Pakistan (0930 BST)
October 15 - England vs Afghanistan (0930 BST)
October 16 - Australia vs Sri Lanka (0930 BST)
October 17 - South Africa vs Netherlands (0930 BST)
October 18 - New Zealand vs Afghanistan (0930 BST)
October 19 - India vs Bangladesh (0930 BST)
October 20 - Australia vs Pakistan (0930 BST)
October 21 - Netherlands vs Sri Lanka (0600 BST)
October 21 - England vs South Africa (0930 BST)
October 22 - India vs New Zealand (0930 BST)
October 23 - Pakistan vs Afghanistan (0930 BST)
October 24 - South Africa v Bangladesh (0930 BST)
October 25 - Australia vs Netherlands (0930 BST)
October 26 - England vs Sri Lanka (0930 BST)
October 27 - Pakistan vs South Africa (0930 BST)
October 28 - Australia vs New Zealand (0600 BST)
October 28 - Netherlands vs Bangladesh (0930 BST)
October 29 - India vs England (0830 GMT)
October 30 - Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka (0830 GMT)
October 31 - Pakistan vs Bangladesh (0830 GMT)
November 1 - New Zealand vs South Africa (0830 GMT)
November 2 - India vs Sri Lanka (0830 GMT)
November 3 - Netherlands vs Afghanistan (0830 GMT)
November 4 - New Zealand vs Pakistan (0500 GMT)
November 4 - England vs Australia (0830 GMT)
November 5 - India vs South Africa (0830 GMT)
November 6 - Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka (0830 GMT)
November 7 - Australia vs Afghanistan (0830 GMT)
November 8 - England vs Netherlands (0830 GMT)
November 9 - New Zealand vs Sri Lanka, (0830 GMT)
November 10 - South Africa vs Afghanistan (0830 GMT)
November 11 - Australia vs Bangladesh (0500 GMT)
November 11 - England vs Pakistan (0830 GMT)
November 12 - India vs Netherlands (0830 GMT)
November 15 - First semi-final, 1st v 4th (0830 GMT)
November 16 - Second semi-final , 2nd v 3rd (0830 GMT)
November 19 - Final (0830 GMT)
- Tournament Odds:
- (Bet365) - India 11/5; England 3/1; Australia 9/2; Pakistan 13/2; New Zealand 15/2; South Africa 10/1; Sri Lanka 25/1; Afghanistan 33/1; Bangladesh 50/1; Netherlands 750/1.
- Squad Lists (Teams have until the 28th September to finalise their squads):
- Afghanistan
Hashmatullah Shahidi (c), Rahmanullah Gurbaz, Ibrahim Zadran, Riaz Hassan, Rahmat Shah, Najibullah Zadran, Mohammad Nabi, Ikram Alikhil, Azmatullah Omarzai, Rashid Khan, Mujeeb ur Rahman, Noor Ahmad, Fazalhaq Farooqi, Abdul Rahman, Naveen ul Haq.
Australia
Pat Cummins (capt), Sean Abbott, Alex Carey, Cameron Green, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Josh Inglis, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitchell Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Marcus Stoinis, David Warner, Adam Zampa.
Bangladesh
Shakib Al Hasan (c), Mushfiqur Rahim, Litton Das, Najmul Hossain Shanto, Mehedi Hasan, Towhid Hridoy, Taskin Ahmed, Mustafizur Rahman, Shoriful Islam, Hasan Mahmud, Nasum Ahmed, Mahedi Hasan, Tanzim Hasan, Tanzid Hasan, Mahmudullah.
England
Jos Buttler (c), Moeen Ali, Gus Atkinson, Jonny Bairstow, Harry Brook, Sam Curran, Liam Livingstone, Dawid Malan, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Ben Stokes, Reece Topley, David Willey, Mark Wood, Chris Woakes.
India
Rohit Sharma (capt), Shubman Gill, Virat Kohli, Shreyas Iyer, KL Rahul (wk), Ishan Kishan (wk), Suryakumar Yadav, Hardik Pandya (vice-capt), Ravindra Jadeja, Kuldeep Yadav, R Ashwin, Shardul Thakur, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Shami, Mohammed Siraj.
Netherlands
Scott Edwards (c), Max O'Dowd, Bas de Leede, Vikram Singh, Teja Nidamanuru, Paul van Meekeren, Colin Ackermann, Roelof van der Merwe, Logan van Beek, Aryan Dutt, Ryan Klein, Wesley Barresi, Saqib Zulfiqar, Shariz Ahmad, Sybrand Engelbrecht.
New Zealand
Kane Williamson (c), Trent Boult, Mark Chapman, Devon Conway, Lockie Ferguson, Matt Henry, Tom Latham, Daryl Mitchell, Jimmy Neesham, Glenn Phillips, Rachin Ravindra, Mitch Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Will Young.
Pakistan
Babar Azam (c), Shadab Khan, Fakhar Zaman, Imam-ul-Haq, Abdullah Shafique, Mohammad Rizwan, Saud Shakeel, Iftikhar Ahmed, Salman Ali Agha, Mohammad Nawaz, Usama Mir, Haris Rauf, Hasan Ali, Shaheen Afridi, Mohammad Wasim.
South Africa
Temba Bavuma (c), Gerald Coetzee, Quinton de Kock, Reeza Hendricks, Marco Jansen, Heinrich Klaasen, Sisanda Magala, Keshav Maharaj, Aiden Markram, David Miller, Lungi Ngidi, Anrich Nortje, Kagiso Rabada, Tabraiz Shamsi, Rassie van der Dussen.
Sri Lanka
Dasun Shanaka (capt), Kusal Mendis, Pathum Nissanka, Kusal Perera (wk), Dimuth Karunaratne, Charith Asalanka, Dhananjaya de Silva, Sadeera Samarawickrama (wk), Dushan Hemantha, Maheesh Theekshana, Dunith Wellalage, Kasun Rajitha, Dilshan Madushanka, Matheesha Pathirana, Lahiru Kumara.
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I, and dare I say this, actually quite like the look of South Africa's team, and if I were to have a flutter at the odds Duty has posted, 10/1 appeals to me most for them.
If you put a gun to my head, I'd say India win this though. Strongest side on paper, home conditions, it's really theirs to lose.
For England...a bit unsure of how we will go. We have a LOT of travel, and no two games at the same ground in the groups...which feels like quite a big disadvantage? Hoping we can just make it to the knockout games, and see how we go...but it will be tough, and I feel a lot more unsure about this XI going into a white ball tournament than I have since 2015 really.
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Well, South Africa's hopes have taken a big hit. They've lost Nortje and Magala. Nortje a crushing blow. The amount of injuries in this tournament, which I referenced in the 'rest of the world' thread, is ridiculous, and perhaps testament to too much cricket being played.
Southee's undergoing surgery for his thumb problem, so he might also miss the World Cup.
The team that wins the cup will be the team that manages their injuries best.
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Well, South Africa's hopes have taken a big hit. They've lost Nortje and Magala. Nortje a crushing blow. The amount of injuries in this tournament, which I referenced in the 'rest of the world' thread, is ridiculous, and perhaps testament to too much cricket being played.
Southee's undergoing surgery for his thumb problem, so he might also miss the World Cup.
The team that wins the cup will be the team that manages their injuries best.
Scratch my earlier South Africa dark horse shout from the record please your honour! Not just injuries - but injuries in the same department of the team too. Brutal
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Pakistan have named their squad. The injured Naseem Shah replaced with the experienced Hasan Ali, while Haris Rauf is included despite suffering from a side strain.
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Looks like the Indian state are purposely delaying Pakistan. Pakistan still haven't received their visas for travel to India, while every other side has.
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And today on the ever-popular 'which key player is injured and will probably miss the World Cup' roadshow, it's the turn of Sri Lanka's number one bowler Hasaranga, with a side dish of Chameera.
Hasaranga was on the mend for a hamstring tear, which caused him to miss the Asia Cup, but he has since aggravated it and will likely miss the majority of the World Cup at best, all of it at worse. Hasaranga was Sri Lanka's key bowler during the Qualifier - where he took 22 wickets @ just under 13. Another big blow for the competition.
Chameera is also in doubt for Sri Lanka. He missed the qualifier event, then missed the T20 franchise competition in August, but seemed to be on his way to recover in time for the World Cup. However he apparently can't get through many overs without discomfort, and has a long history of injury.
On the plus side for Sri Lanka, Theekshana, previously a doubt, is likely to be fit for the World Cup. It's definitely in the category of 'speculative punt', but Sri Lanka are currently 22/1 to finish bottom of the group stage at the World Cup. Worth a nibble with this news.
Could probably get a quality XI out of the injured - Head, Roy (we can sort of squeeze him in as his back injury was a factor), Williamson, Mitchell, Pant, Hasaranga, Axar Patel, Southee, Archer, Nortje, Naseem Shah.
Might be a little light on the batting front, but the bowling is stacked. Patch them up, put them in as an 11th team, and they might make a run for the semi-finals.
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Looks like the Indian state are purposely delaying Pakistan. Pakistan still haven't received their visas for travel to India, while every other side has.
The organisation of this event, and this treatment, is absolutely embarrassing. Not that the ICC (sorry BCCI, who are the ICC these days) care, as their pockets will be full at the end of proceedings.
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Southee, meanwhile, has had successful surgery for his thumb problem and he will be fit for the World Cup. Whether he actually makes it for the tournament opener, in 9 days time, is another matter.
And the Netherlands had a low-key warm-up versus Karnataka. Astonishingly, the Netherlands, chasing 266, lost their first seven batsmen for ducks and were 3/7 (with those three runs being extras), before recovering to be bowled out for 123. Still, 3/7!
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- Afghanistan - Afghanistan, the most curious team. Their bowling attack for these conditions can amazing. Rashid Khan backed up by Mujeeb and Nabi. Plus they've uncovered a quality seamer in Farooqi, adding an extra dimension. Unfortunately, their bowling attack have been out of form recently, hence why Afghanistan have lost all six of their last six ODIs, although some of those games were close (a two run and one wicket defeat included).
The lack of a top-quality batsman still hinders Afghanistan. The steadiest hand was always Rahmat Shah, but this year his form has collapsed. Opener Ibrahim Zadran may now be their best hope.
Verdict: Wouldn't rule them out from taking a big scalp this year. They have the bowling attack that, when on form, can trouble any team in the world, but the batting order won't scare anyone, and consistency is likely to be an issue. Afghanistan to finish 8th.
Australia - The most successful team in ODI history and Australia's recent form in ODIs is pretty good. A squad that's quite old, also, like England.
How Australia's batsmen adapt to the subcontinental conditions is key. They're currently playing a warm-up series in India, and though they lost 2-1, they did rack up 352 in the third game. Another concern for Australia is their most in-form batsman in ODI cricket - Travis Head - has fractured his hand and will miss, at least, most of the competition.
Australia's quick bowling is possibly the best, with Starc, Cummins and Hazlewood leading the line, backed up by the likes of Abbott, Green and Marsh. However, Starc and Cummins are both coming back from injury, and the fitness of Hazlewood is never a guarantee. Where Australia may have a further concern is spin. Zampa has ranged from being brilliant to being atrocious recently, while Agar is unlikely to bowl Australia to victory.
Verdict: On their day, Australia have more than enough talents to win the World Cup, but I think the lack of a quality spinner will hinder them, plus I'm not overly convinced about their batting. Australia to finish 4th and lose in the semi-finals.
Bangladesh - Could this be it? Could this be Bangladesh's breakthrough tournament? We keep asking it every year, but they've never done any better than a last eight finish in the World Cup. But maybe this time...
The conditions are to Bangladesh's liking, but they haven't escaped the injury curse, with Ebadot and Tamim not making the competition. Bangladesh's bowling, despite Ebadot's absence, is something I really like. Three quality quick bowlers with Mustafizur, Taskin Ahmed and the young Shoriful Islam, allied with the spin of Shakib, Mahedi and Mehidy (that's easy for you to say!). It's a bowling attack which will be a handful for anyone in these conditions.
It's the batting that looks lightweight, and a lot will be asked of Shakib, Mushfiqur and Litton Das. Plus Bangladesh have probably the worst tail in cricket. Generally, once it's seven down, it's curtains.
Verdict: They're probably battling for that fourth semi-final spot, and in subcontinental conditions they will not be easy to beat. Can the bowling bail out their lightweight batting is the question. I wouldn't rule them out. It could be, you know...Bangladesh to finish 6th.
England - This is Mexico 1970 for this lot. Win it again for sporting immortality.
The batting is loaded like a nuclear missile. Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler, Livingstone, Moeen, supported by Malan and Root, with Brook in reserve. Malan has five centuries in his last 15 innings, while Buttler, Stokes and Livingstone all look in roaring touch with the bat. Concerns might abound over Bairstow and Root, but they have time to play themselves in.
England's bowling is built around the consistency of Rashid. If England can get him on the field, Wood's explosive pace will lead the attack, backed up with Topley and Atkinson, while Woakes, Curran and Willey provide the seam and nibble that reminds us of home. Livingstone and Ali round off the bowling, bringing excellent variety.
Verdict: It's all there for England. They're amazing and they'll show it once more. We'll probably be treated to a slip-up or two in the group phase, like when England lost to Sri Lanka in 2019 or Ireland in 2022, but this England know how to peak at the right time and they'll do it again. England to finish 2nd, then win the World Cup again.
India - Is there a side more frustrated than India? Semi-finalists in 2015 and 2019; runners-up in the T20 variety in 2014 and semi-finalists in 2016 and 2022; runners-up in the 2017 Champions Trophy; and losing finalists in the World Test Championship in 2021 and 2023. Global frustrations persist, but they have won three out of the last four Asia Cups, including a few days ago when they rolled Sri Lanka for 50.
The batting is probably led by Shubman Gill, but there's quality throughout the batting with Iyer, Kohli, Rohit, Kishan, and Rahul. Perhaps second only to England. India will be hoping Yadav can translate his exceptional T20 form to the ODI format, something he hasn't done yet, averaging just under 25 in 27 ODIs.
The bowling looks incredible, too, with Siraj, Yadav and Bumrah. And you can add the experience of Thakur, Jadeja and Shami...
Verdict: On paper, India are the strongest team at this tournament and they are playing in home conditions. But I can't make them favourites because of the enormous pressure they are under, and their recent propensity to go missing in KO matches. India to finish 1st, then lose in the final.
Netherlands - How did they get here, eh? Oh that's right, two amazing miracles in the qualifiers got them here. The first came about when the Netherlands managed to beat the West Indies in a Super Over. The West Indies posting 374, the Dutch tying it up, then van Beek smashing 30 in the Super Over leaving the Caribbean side floored. That was one of the greatest ODIs I've ever seen.
Then, in the final game of the Qualifier, Bas de Leede picked his side up and carried them to India. The Netherlands were chasing 278 to beat Scotland, and needed to do it in 43 overs because of NRR, but were flailing at 108/4 midway through the 24th over. de Leede's 123 off 92 launched his country to the World Cup. Magic.
But this will be a step too far in unfamiliar conditions, I fear.
Verdict: I see no reason for optimism. Netherlands to finish 10th. Sorry.
New Zealand - Nearly, oh so nearly. New Zealand are becoming the Jimmy White of cricket and equally as lovable. Two consecutive World Cup final losses, plus a loss in the T20 World Cup final of 2021, have conspired to leave the Kiwis as the nearly men of white ball cricket.
Unfortunately, things don't look so good for them this year. As so many teams are, New Zealand are battling injuries in key positions. Williamson injured his ACL back in March and is fighting to regain fitness in time; Bracewell is definitely out after rupturing his achilles; Mitchell is trying to recover from a dislocated finger; and Southee suffered a dislocated thumb v England, for which he has opted to have surgery.
All a mess, ultimately. What New Zealand do have is the solidity of Latham, Young and Conway at the top of the order, with the explosiveness of Neesham and Chapman. The bowling relies heavily on the returning Boult to do the damage, with Santner, only just back from a knee injury, required to pull a big weight in the spin bowling department. No Southee, potentially, and no Jamieson (at least for now), so Ferguson and Henry, the latter who played a good role in 2019, will need to step up.
Verdict: The batting doesn't look strong enough to mount a sustained challenge, especially if Williamson and/or Mitchell is out, and there's only a couple of quality names in the bowling unit. Recent form has also been poor. New Zealand to finish 7th.
Pakistan - The number one ranked team in ODI cricket for some of September (along with India and Australia). I've been warm on their prospects of success in this competition for a while, but I have cooled on them recently, not least due to their underwhelming Asia Cup performance - where India thrashed them by 200+ runs, and Sri Lanka edged them out by two wickets - and the injury to Naseem Shah, which has blown a hole in their bowling attack.
Nonetheless, Pakistan still have bits of quality all over the place. The batting is built around the smoothness of Babar Azam, with the quality of Imam and Fakhar above him, and the explosiveness of Ifktikhar and experience of Rizwan beneath. The batting quaity may not reach the level of India or England, but it's still considerable.
And the bowling has the x-factor of Shaheen, a player who probably gets into any world ODI XI. What support he gets will be key, and Pakistan will need the likes of Shadab Khan and Haris Rauf to prove their quality also.
Verdict: Should breeze into the top four, but this is Pakistan, so who really knows? They're my third favourites for the competition and have a very plausible chance of winning this competition for the first time since 1992. Pakistan to finish 3rd and get knocked out in the semi-finals.
South Africa - South Africa have lost Magala and Nortje on the eve of the tournament, severely denting their bowling attack. Nonetheless, they still have Rabada and Ngidi, plus Jansen, with the spin of Maharaj and Shamsi. Shamsi's quality. But those losses are leaving them light in the bowling.
Van der Dussen and Bavuma are the two calmest hands with the bat, while de Kock and Miller provide the maximums. Markram is there, too, but they will struggle with quite a long tail, which is a hallmark of South Africa in recent times.
And this is South Africa. I'm never backing them again after last year's T20 World Cup, where they appeared to have everything in hand, before losing to the Netherlands!
Verdict: They're certainly in the bracket of teams that can make the semi-finals, but overall success would be a surprise and would require them to defy history. South Africa to finish 5th.
Sri Lanka - Also savaged on the eve of the tournament by the loss of Hasaranga, this vintage are nowhere near 1996. They breezed through the qualifer, but once again their squad looks very weak.
The batting is relying on Kusal Mendis and the younger Nissanka, while the bowling is praying on the services of Kumara and Theekshana.
Verdict: Will be battling for the best of the bottom three, alongside Afghanistan and the Netherlands. Sri Lanka to finish 9th.
Overall Verdict: India, England and Pakistan are my three certain choices to reach the KO stage. The fourth and final place is between Australia, Bangladesh, New Zealand and South Africa and, to be perfectly honest, not a lot separates them. The various injury permutations, plus form, rain, DLS etc., could alter everything. For now I'd hesitantly plump for Australia, but it's all very narrow. I'd have probably leant towards South Africa if Nortje had been fit.
Once you get to the KO stages, it is then of course all about peaking at the right time and delivering a top performance on two separate days, as England did in 2019 and 2022.
India have the best overall team and home conditions, but their recent KO record is poor, while England are experienced winners who have proven they can do it at the right time, so England narrowly get my vote.
While India and England are the two clear front runners, Pakistan have a very real chance of winning the World Cup also. I think they're a level above those below, so should comfortably make the semi-finals.
Not a lot separates the Australia/Bangladesh/New Zealand/South Africa quartet, and all have a slim chance of winning the World Cup, in my view. One of them will squeak into the semi-finals, possibly by way of NRR, but asking them to win two straight games over two of India/England/Pakistan in the KO stages is a huge challenge, and very much getting into the realm of 'if the stars align'.
I don't believe Afghanistan, Sri Lanka or Netherlands have a hope of even making the semi-finals, never mind winning the World Cup.
Final predicted table: India, England, Pakistan, Australia, South Africa, Bangladesh, New Zealand, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Netherlands.
Predicted KO stages: India to beat Australia in the first semi-final; England to beat Pakistan in the second semi-final; England to beat India in the final.
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- England to win the World Cup at 10/3; Pakistan to win the World Cup at 7/1.
Joe Root to be top tournament runscorer at 18/1; Fakhar Zaman to be tournament runscorer at 25/1; Shakib to be top tournament runscorer at 50/1; David Miller to be top tournament runscorer at 100/1.
Joe Root to be England's top runscorer at 7/2; Shubman Gill to be India's top runscorer at 9/4; Steve Smith to be Australia's top runscorer at 3/1.
Rashid Khan to be top tournament wicket taker at 14/1; Trent Boult to be top tournament wicket taker at 16/1; Adam Zampa to be top tournament wicket taker at 18/1.
Trent Boult to be NZ's top wicket taker at 15/8; Mohammed Siraj to be India's top wicket taker at 7/2; Adam Zampa to be Australia's top wicket taker at 11/4.
India to finish in the top two of the group stage at 10/11; Pakistan to reach the semis at 8/11; Bangladesh to reach the semis at 9/1; Australia to be eliminated in the group stage at 11/4; Sri Lanka to finish bottom of the group at 25/1.
Afghanistan to score the lowest completed innings total at the World Cup at 7/1; Sri Lanka to score the lowest completed innings total at the World Cup at 16/1.Joel Wilson to umpire a match and not have a single overturned decision at 1,000,000/1.
Most of those were on Bet365, but always shop around for the best odds.
Happy World Cup. Starts in just over a week.
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Australia have included Labuschagne after his late run of form, 421 runs in 8 matches, but not at the expense of Head, as was expected. Instead it's Agar who has been omitted due to suffering a calf injury.
Head is in the squad despite Australia knowing that he will not be able to play any part in the competition for the first half, due to his fractured hand. That's a gamble, carrying a passenger for that long. Australia's fixture list has quite a tough beginning, in that they have to play India in their 1st game and Pakistan in the 4th, so Head's absence will be keenly felt. Marsh will probably open with Warner.
And Agar being replaced with Labuschagne means there's no specialist spin cover for Zampa, and that Maxwell may have to bowl more overs than he originally thought.
Meanwhile India have lost Axar Patel. They hoped Patel would be fit for the competition, but they appear to have given up hope on this. Patel's replacement is Ashwin, who has only played four ODIs in the last six years.
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The world cup is upon us and I believe this will be the most evenly contested world cup...since the 1992 version.
Because the pitches will be flat, far more flatter than what was encountered in Eng(2019) and far less bouncier than in Aus( 2015)
Making it a batter dominated tournament and keeping teams like SL, BD in the running as their batters that need flatness of pitches to thrive and bring their spin bowling/ part-time spinners far more into play.
My Top Pick is Pak.....they have the batting for these flat pitches, have pace inspite of losing Nasim Shah and have spin bowlers who are allrounders.
Favorites to make it to semis in my view
1. Pak for reasons mentioned
2. Aus & 3. Eng
Both have depth is batting i.e bowling allrounders and batsmen who can bowl
and both like to play the brand of cricket where they keep-going unlike the "get set and then accelerate towards the end" approach of subcontinent teams, where they leave runs on the table when setting totals and leave too much for too late when chasing big totals.
Nos 4 thru 8 will be a tight fight between India, NZ, SL, SA & BD
and not in that order of probability..with BD being the outlier and SL my dark horse to make the cut.
Will assess relative probabilities in days to come
There is a lot to write on India which I will as I find time.
Most Fascinating Aspect of this World Cup "Unretiring of Ben Stokes"
Turning retiring into a temporal phenomenon.....
" I am retiring for now" as one Pak cricketer said when they were playing musical chairs between Afridi, Younis, Misbah in limited over formats as captain
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It was the first day of warm-ups today. Afghanistan and South Africa's game was completely washed out, but Bangladesh cruised a chase of 264 to beat Sri Lanka, and New Zealand made relatively light work of a 346 chase to down Pakistan. Williamson made his long-awaited return today and got a 50, that's great news for NZ with the England game under a week away*.
Not sure a lot can be read into results for these warm ups, as it's 15 a side and teams are retiring batsmen and using 7/8 bowlers, but individual performances and finding form could be key.
*Actually, just saw Williamson will definitely miss the opener against England - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66957189
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Duty281 wrote:Very down on India's hopes, aren't you?!
Not sure a lot can be read into results for these warm ups, as it's 15 a side and teams are retiring batsmen and using 7/8 bowlers, but individual performances and finding form could be key.
Yeah these practice games are really only better than net practice, but no more.
India has one big problem, that they want to play a 6th bowler....inspite of having 5 good bowlers.
Because none of their batters wants to take responsibility of turning the arm over for 3 or 4 overs if needed.
So the 6th bowler is meant to bat at No. 8 and first choice Axar is out was the only one capable of scoring an 20 ball 30 if needed.
Ashwin and Shardul the two potential 6th bowlers...who will bat at no. 8 can hold the bat but Ashwin's forte is test match batting and Shardul too inconsistent.
So in chase if India go 6-down and needing even 32 in last 4 overs the nos 8 thru 11 cannot take India thru.
So I can bet we will lose chasing a game or two and then India will dump the 6th bowler to accommodate an extra batter.....might be too late by then given the expected tightness of the format
Bumrah, Siraj, Pandya, Jadeja & Kuldeep is a formidable 5 bowlers unit and the problem stems from Pandya not wanting to take full 10 over responsibility and as stated above no batter being groomed to bowl 3 or 4 overs although Rohit & Kohli have done that in past and SKY bowled both seam up & Off spin in Ranji as a part-timer with 24 wkts at avg 23.
The pitches are likely to be either absolute Patta belter where even 350 could be chasable
to flat with a hint of support to spin and occasionally seam movement under light where 270 to 280 could be defendable
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Assuming Nasser and KP_f are right there, I guess a lot will depend on how much India's specialists in one role will have to deliver in another.
Whether this will prevent India emerging as winners, we'll have to wait and see. I don't know nearly enough about the current competitors in this World Cup to make a meaningful evaluation but I suspect that a detailed analysis would find some weaknesses in all.
As for England, I'm uncomfortable that we might be banking too much on Archer becoming and, perhaps harder still, remaining fit if and when a squad member has to drop out through injury. I'm obviously too far away to properly judge but I wonder if his inclusion in the travelling party may be a distraction we would be better off without.
Oh, and whilst I'm here, what's all this about having warm up matches against other teams taking part in the competition? I'm not aware of that happening in World Cups for other sports. Seems very odd. Fair enough to want a run out but play against a local side to whom it would mean a lot and give everything.
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India/England didn't see a ball bowled, but Australia had enough time for Smith to notch 50 and Starc to land a hattrick, in an aborted 23 over game v the Dutch.
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1.Gill 2.Rohit 3.Virat 4.Rahul 5.SKY/Iyer 6.Pandya 7.Jadeja 8.Ashwin/Shardul 9.Kuldeep 10.Shami 11.Bumrah
Two all-rounders in Pandya and Jadeja balance the side very well. Kuldeep is bowling quicker now and looking far more dangerous for it. Bumrah is an incredible white ball bowler.
England should also be thereabouts. Their batting is still very powerful but the bowling looks more flawed than 2019 and as said a few times I'm concerned about their fielding.
Head is a big loss for Oz. He's been terrific at the top of the order for them. I quite fancy Starc to have another brilliant CWC though. Player of the tournament in 2015, brilliant in 2019. He lost his white ball form for a bit whilst developing his wobble ball but seems to have found his mojo again. As is often the case they will have 5th and 6th bowlers that can be targeted though.
The Proteas are intriguing. Their ODI batting has been ridiculous recently. Their middle orders ability to maximise the second half of the innings is impressive. Nortje is a big loss though, several of their bowlers don't have much experience in Indian conditions and Jansen is yet to show his batting at this level.
Pakistan will be dangerous with their batting aimed at getting par then a powerful bowling attack. Naseem is a big blow to that strategy but Shaheen is an incredible weapon in the PP. I don't quite see it taking them all the way though.
NZ are hard to call but always seem to be thereabouts with this gen of players! Santner and Sodhi are generally better T20 spinners but still good ODI ones. Boult being back is a huge boost and Henry is in the form of his life. They really need Ferguson to find form for the middle overs though as Santner tends to be economic without taking wickets in this form. They look a very good fielding side to me which is always helpful.
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Two more warm-up games being played today, but both being lashed by the rain. I hope it's just India flushing out the last bit of monsoon rain before the World Cup, and not an omen of what's to come. I note the forecasts for the first few games of the actual tournament seem to be dry.
Conway made a good half-century for NZ v South Africa, as did Latham, while Williamson got through another 50-ball innings, so I'm not quite sure why he can't play v England. Bangladesh are 153/5 v England, with Rashid and Topley each getting a couple of wickets. Might not be any further play in that one with the rain currently hammering down.
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That was England's last warm-up game. The real business starts on Thursday.
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On to the tournament proper on Thursday. Feeling confident about England's chances v a Williamson-less New Zealand.
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Duty281 wrote:Final warm-ups concluded today. India and the Netherlands abandoned without a ball being bowled. Australia edging out Pakistan in a 14 run thriller, despite Babar making 90. And Afghanistan fairly comfortably beating Sri Lanka in a rain-reduced game, where Gurbaz's 119 trumped Mendis' 118.
On to the tournament proper on Thursday. Feeling confident about England's chances v a Williamson-less New Zealand.
what's Eng starting 11 likely to be?
will they have Rashid and Ali as 2 spinners and Livingstone & Root as part time spinners?
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KP_fan wrote:Duty281 wrote:Final warm-ups concluded today. India and the Netherlands abandoned without a ball being bowled. Australia edging out Pakistan in a 14 run thriller, despite Babar making 90. And Afghanistan fairly comfortably beating Sri Lanka in a rain-reduced game, where Gurbaz's 119 trumped Mendis' 118.
On to the tournament proper on Thursday. Feeling confident about England's chances v a Williamson-less New Zealand.
what's Eng starting 11 likely to be?
will they have Rashid and Ali as 2 spinners and Livingstone & Root as part time spinners?
Not completely sure, but it should be something along the lines of: Bairstow, Malan, Root, Stokes, Buttler as a near nailed-on top five. It'll probably be Woakes, Rashid, Wood, Topley from 8-11 (presuming Wood is fit).
And there's two spots to settle which Moeen, Livingstone and Curran are fighting for. I'd have thought it would be Livingstone and Curran, but Moeen's innings against Bangladesh might have tipped the equation in his favour, and of course it depends on what balance England want to go for.
If Moeen does play, he's likely to be a part-time spinner as he rarely bowls ten overs in an innings anymore.
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Duty281 wrote:KP_fan wrote:Duty281 wrote:Final warm-ups concluded today. India and the Netherlands abandoned without a ball being bowled. Australia edging out Pakistan in a 14 run thriller, despite Babar making 90. And Afghanistan fairly comfortably beating Sri Lanka in a rain-reduced game, where Gurbaz's 119 trumped Mendis' 118.
On to the tournament proper on Thursday. Feeling confident about England's chances v a Williamson-less New Zealand.
what's Eng starting 11 likely to be?
will they have Rashid and Ali as 2 spinners and Livingstone & Root as part time spinners?
Not completely sure, but it should be something along the lines of: Bairstow, Malan, Root, Stokes, Buttler as a near nailed-on top five. It'll probably be Woakes, Rashid, Wood, Topley from 8-11 (presuming Wood is fit).
And there's two spots to settle which Moeen, Livingstone and Curran are fighting for. I'd have thought it would be Livingstone and Curran, but Moeen's innings against Bangladesh might have tipped the equation in his favour, and of course it depends on what balance England want to go for.
If Moeen does play, he's likely to be a part-time spinner as he rarely bowls ten overs in an innings anymore.
Stokes has reportedly a Hip-Niggle, I assume Harry brook will come in for him.
two spots to settle which Moeen, Livingstone and Curran are fighting
Lingstone and Moeen it should be given that Eng already has 3 seamers and you won't need a 4th seamer in Ahd
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KP_fan wrote:Duty281 wrote:Final warm-ups concluded today. India and the Netherlands abandoned without a ball being bowled. Australia edging out Pakistan in a 14 run thriller, despite Babar making 90. And Afghanistan fairly comfortably beating Sri Lanka in a rain-reduced game, where Gurbaz's 119 trumped Mendis' 118.
On to the tournament proper on Thursday. Feeling confident about England's chances v a Williamson-less New Zealand.
what's Eng starting 11 likely to be?
will they have Rashid and Ali as 2 spinners and Livingstone & Root as part time spinners?
Think Malan, Bairstow, Root, Stokes, Buttler, Livingstone, Ali, Curran, Woakes, Wood, Rashid.
Was wondering if there was a super over who would bowl it?
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Instead I am having some small stakes, long shot bets in some side markets on players I like;
Most Tournament Runs
Heinrich Klaasen (50/1)
Marnus Labuschange (50/1)
Mohammed Rizwan (66/1)
Glenn Phillips (100/1)
Gone for some long shot middle order players for this (obviously openers tend to be shorter odds). Klaasen arguably the best white ball bat in the world at the moment, Marnus should get a gig to start off the tournament and is in form, Rizwan is class and I fancy Phillips will play all games and get promoted from 6 if NZ have any sense.
Most Tournament Wickets
Ish Sodhi (33/1)
Keshav Maharaj (50/1)
Dunith Wellage (100/1)
Taskin Ahmed (100/1)
Aimed for spin options here mainly - Sodhi has gone well in India in white ball tournaments before, Maharaj I think seems to be SA's preferred spin option, Wellage had a good Asia cup, and again can bat a bit so will play mostly you'd think, and Taskin has 21 ODI wickets in his last 11 games for the Tigers.
Afghanistan most runs - Ibrahim Zadran (11/4)
Bangladesh most runs - Najmul Shanto (10/3)
New Zealand most runs - Glenn Phillips (6/1)
(All three in a treble at 112/1 also)
Bangladesh most wickets - Taskin Ahmed (9/2)
New Zealand most wickets - Ish Sodhi (11/2)
South Africa most wickets - Keshav Maharaj (6/1)
Sri Lanka most wickets - Dunith Wellage (6/1)
(All four in an accy at 1750/1 also)
In general, I like India, South Africa and Bangladesh to go well. I see a tough time for Sri Lanka and Afghanistan, who's batting looks incredibly weak to me. England, Aus, NZ and SA all battling it out to lose to India in the knockouts
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Bairstow, Malan, Root, Stokes (Brook if Stokes not fit), Buttler, Livingstone, Curran, Woakes, Rashid, Wood, Topley
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On the weather it does seem to be a lot better for the next couple of weeks. I think it's towards the end of monsoon season. Hopefully it'll be alright. This tournament was of course originally scheduled to be played in March, before Covid pushed everything back.
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Southee and Williamson not yet fit I understand.
Gives them Neehsam, Rachin, Santner as allrounders
Boult , Hnery, Sodhi & Ferguson as pure bowlers.....and NZ bowlers can hold the bat a bit.
3 pacers, 2 spinners and Neesham and Rachin can bowl part time seam and spin
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England: (possible) 1 Jonny Bairstow, 2 Dawid Malan, 3 Joe Root, 4 Ben Stokes/Harry Brook, 5 Jos Buttler (capt & wk), 6 Liam Livingstone, 7 Sam Curran, 8 Chris Woakes, 9 Mark Wood, 10 Adil Rashid, 11 Reece Topley.
New Zealand: 1 Will Young, 2 Devon Conway, 3 Daryl Mitchell, 4 Glenn Phillips, 5 Tom Latham (capt & wk), 6 James Neesham, 7 Mitchell Santner, 8 Ish Sodhi, 9 Matt Henry, 10 Lockie Ferguson, 11 Trent Boult.
It's an interesting opener, but I have to favour England for this game and I do like that team selection. Top six is amazing and I love the bowling variety. England are going to win the World Cup again, lads. It's going to be an important for Root and Bairstow, both trying to rediscover form, and potentially for Brook if he finds his way in at Stokes expense.
NZ are a potential semi-final team - though I've tipped them for seventh, it's a very tight race - however the losses of Williamson and Southee are brutal and are going to be very tough to weather. I like their front-line bowling, especially Boult and Henry, and I reckon Santner is underrated by many, but the 5th/6th bowling options are very exploitable. Key batsmen to watch out for is probably Conway - three centuries in his last nine ODI innings - or Mitchell.
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Logically India must be a strong chance in home conditions - and Pakistan , mercurial though they are , should also do well. England still have the core of 2019 and some handy new faces but I’m waiting to see how their bowling copes before getting on Duty’s bandwagon…fitness issues too perhaps ? But obviously the reigning champs have to have a great chance again.
Australia I’m also a bit unsure about. Some great players ; but are they all ready to fire this month ? Warm ups didn’t seem to offer anything definitive : let’s see how they are when the serious stuff starts.
Never going to rule out NZ ; but both they and SA seem to have suffered with badly timed injuries so back ups going to be tested. Are the rest making up the numbers ? Maybe : but I’d expect some surprise results along the way in any case. Not going to be doing any gambling with real money on this … PJ’s competition will do me
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NZ have, surprisingly in my view, opted to bowl first, and England have plundered 12 off the opening over. Pitch looks a batting paradise, boundaries not the biggest. Kiwis have also not played Ferguson.
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Looks like there's about 10 people in the ground.
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Very poor review against Malan. On the attendance, I still don't understand why the host team are not playing the tournament opener, which happens in near enough every World Cup I can think of!
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Duty281 wrote:Brook is in for Stokes, and England have loaded up the batting more than expected with Moeen playing over Topley.
NZ have, surprisingly in my view, opted to bowl first, and England have plundered 12 off the opening over. Pitch looks a batting paradise, boundaries not the biggest. Kiwis have also not played Ferguson.
sensible ...3 seamers are enough or a bit more than enuf for this pitch and most Indian pitches
2 frontline spinners are a min required and Eng have luxury of Root and Liam as part timers
Eng are rank favorites to win this one...with the start and depth and bowling resources at their disposal
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Surprised at Sodhi missing
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Was a very poor shot from Malan. Feet stuck. 51/1 after 10 is a pretty solid platform. Going to need 320+, on the early evidence.
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