Scotland vs England | The Calcutta Cup

mountain man wrote:England I think are looking to play, issue is handling errors are killing them. However, cannot fault ambition. Tighten up and it'll come.

Looks very similar to Saints from two years ago. Just too frantic. Need a better balance, knowing when to turn it on and when not to. And especially problematic because most players out there don't play that way. Losing Mitchell shows up clearly here.

As much as I am not remotely a Spencer fan, I think it's time to sit Care.

Very nice try from Furbank, one of Englands better trys in recent years.

And another thing, the referee is giving both teams far too much time after calling 'use it'

doctor_grey wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:

miltonkeynesengland wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:

miltonkeynesengland wrote:Stop giving appalling passes

That was catchable. Should be catchable at this level. Second Furbank drop in quick succession. He's been poor so far.

Shouldnt be passed so high at this level..hes given bad passes to Lawrence and others

He's under pressure at the line, it's a bit sloppy but there's no excuse for not catching it. It's head height and he's an international back. He dropped one in the last attack as well which was in the bread basket.

England are playing aggressively at the gain line. Cohesion isn't quite there. When it clicked then we scored.

Disagree.  The pass was both late and head high, and in traffic.  And resulted in an easy try.  

Just seen the replay and it's in front of him and at head height. Furbank is nowhere near a Scottish player. The pass goes through his hands hits his head and bounces forward to Jones to set up the vdM score.

The knock on before is bread basket but delayed and close to the line. It's a pressure take but he's supposed to be an international fullback.

Hands just need to be better.

Please get rid of Monye. Get awful.

An odd but exciting half. All England for 15 minutes, then they s**t the bed for 20 minutes and Scotland took advantage very well. Their outside backs are lethal.

England have generally been disrupting the Scotland lineout well but haven't seemed to respond by trying to get the ball out of play when they are getting anywhere. Hopefully that gets remedied at half time.

I'd get Spencer on. Care has been poor.

This game should suit Martin and CCS well coming off the bench. England will need their impact. They're trying to play but at times have forced it by playing wide through Ford when they don't have momentum from successful forward carries off 9 first.

Collapse2005 wrote:Very nice try from Furbank, one of Englands better trys in recent years.

Catching the ball and falling over the line.

It's a really nice set play and the backs all just hit their lines perfectly. Ben White is on the wrong side of the scrum. Nice to see a England striker play in the backs come off.

Earls been really poor after the big up prior. Get him to 7 and C-S on. Bit more carrying.

[quote="doctor_grey"]And another thing, the referee is giving both teams far too much time after calling 'use it'[/quote

It's Brace. In terms of quality he's right up there with Tesco Value Lager.

Tf for Underhill so far

That weapons grade dogs**t from Care. Runs an unnecessary phase that gives him a worse angle then basically kicks it out sideways. Today has been like watching a video essay in why Care has struggled as an international starter, sadly.

We're sure missing Mitchell

I see someone disagrees with what I wrote about Monye. Let's see it then? He's terrible. Bland soundbites

We're missing Jones heaf

What on earth was that defence after the chargedown? Basically stopped playing.

Bugger

Finn Russell is running the show

I don't think Scotland are doing anything, they are winning off England mistakes.

So all my fears coming true about the defence and having a good first 10 followed up by cr*p

Oh here we go - England get a pen so Junker steps in ...

Hilarious. Jonker trying to get Genge penalised for knocking his own player.

Three points does little for England here.

Jonker can do one. Pointless intervention

Lol. Rugby laws.

Was it me or did Junker sound disappointed ... and Nige tbh

Genge quite lucky that it's his own player there cos thats just a shoulder, if that was a Scotland player then he's in trouble.

Ha! Jonker calls review but was on own player but Owens arguing it's still foul play.

Seriously does anyone think not biased?

I mean it just shows stupidity. It's awful by genge. No arms and frankly lucky he hits an England player.

I  was just in the kitchen thinking we need Martin to be on, and here he is.  Who did he come on for?  Roots?

edit, then he messes up. My fault!

That didn't go forwards until it hit the ground surely?

Heaf wrote:So all my fears coming true about the defence and having a good first 10 followed up by cr*p

Individual errors. The defence has been rushing Scotland and limiting their ability to play through the phases. The kick chase through on Redpath was farcical.

The laws of our game are silly. The fact that someone is committing foul play should determine the punishment. Not whether or not they are incompetent at foul play

tigertattie wrote:The laws of our game are silly. The fact that someone is committing foul play should determine the punishment. Not whether or not they are incompetent at foul play

Helps drive his own player drive over the Scottish player cynically killing the ball at the breakdown.

Sam will be happy: Furbank appears to have taken a knock. Limping.

formerly known as Sam wrote:

Heaf wrote:So all my fears coming true about the defence and having a good first 10 followed up by cr*p

Individual errors. The defence has been rushing Scotland and limiting their ability to play through the phases. The kick chase through on Redpath was farcical.

Net result is the same either way unfortunately ...

you cannot legislate for so many individual errors.....Scotland in danger of pulling away here with comfort. Yet again zero threat from England's back apart from the first try

England are gift-wrapping this for Scotland

Why does Cole always seem to be bleeding on the top of his head? Every game, does he cut it before the game to look even more menacing? Kind of a latter day version of Borthwick's nose.

Why do we bother picking Smith and Feyi Waboso? We need to change the paradigm

England just have to be patient....some decent backs will arrive one day

doctor_grey wrote:Why does Cole always seem to be bleeding on the top of his head?  Every game, does he cut it before the game to look even more menacing?  Kind of a latter day version of Borthwick's nose.

On his podcast it's his ear he complains about. Apparently it bleeds so regularly the wife has banned white bedsheets.

Agree, bring them on now. Need more speed and attacking sense at 10 and defo on the left wing.

formerly known as Sam wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:Why does Cole always seem to be bleeding on the top of his head?  Every game, does he cut it before the game to look even more menacing?  Kind of a latter day version of Borthwick's nose.

On his podcast it's his ear he complains about. Apparently it bleeds so regularly the wife has banned white bedsheets.

Lol

hugehandoff wrote:England just have to be patient....some decent backs will arrive one day

There are some decent backs on the pitch.

Wow. Like that change. Ford not played well and finally Borthwick shows some guts.

Class by Smith. One tidying up and then that kick.

No 7&1/2 wrote:Class by Smith. One tidying up and then that kick.

Exactly the type of thing he needs to show to the coaches. Composure.

IFW
nuff said

Well good for Feyi-Waboso but nice gift.

Get in.

Unforgivable miss, unfortunately. Scotland have been ruthless from the kicking tee.