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Post by Guest Thu 26 Jan 2012, 8:28 am

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OK people there have been a plethora of Fedal articles but I decided to make this one just so we can all post on the same thread during the match itself.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:04 am

Both playing average for me, neither best nor worst from either.

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Post by Tenez Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:04 am

That's what I have been talking about. Beginning of set, Fed can time the ball beautifully. After a set, even a few games, and the timing goes off and misses 2 easy FHs. Even if rallies are shot Nadal makes sure Federer runs fast right and left. And pulling a well timed shot after a 50m race is not the same as when you haven't yet.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:05 am

These Eurosport commentators are saying some interesting things but seem to be placing too much in the balls, saying that FEderer had to get the break there to have a chance more or less. Still surely he's in with a chance even with slower balls.

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Post by legendkillar Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:06 am

That was just ridiculous! Match turner that shot.

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:08 am

How much slower do they want the courts...

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Post by barrystar Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:08 am

Nightmare
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Post by Simple_Analyst Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:09 am

Nadal is a living legend. Federer is getting taught a lesson in passing shots. He is clueless and rushes to the net.


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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:09 am

Great quality game and brilliant break from Nadal!

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Post by LuvSports! Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:12 am

Simple_Analyst wrote:Nadal is a living legend. Federer is getting taught a lesson in passing shots. He is clueless and rushes to the net.

hellllllo again buzzkillllington why are you here?

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Post by legendkillar Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:12 am

Nadal starting to get a foot hold in this match now. Federer dropping off.

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Post by Jeremy_Kyle Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:14 am

It's just always the same story...... furious
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Post by Tenez Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:14 am

I find those points where Fed execute a tough BH smash with Nadal getting to the ball and looping it back an injustice to the game. It just shows that there is no point taking risk. This why Djoko and Nadal prefer to battle it out without trying to pull too many winners.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:15 am

Nadal got a break through his own winners and great play, rather than sitting and waiting for Federer errors.

Can't understand the commentators saying that 4-2 is the match for Nadal, with Federer a set up! Long way to go yet!

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:16 am

Tenez wrote:I find those points where Fed execute a tough BH smash with Nadal getting to the ball and looping it back an injustice to the game. It just shows that there is no point taking risk. This why Djoko and Nadal prefer to battle it out without trying to pull too many winners.

Meh, it was a great point! Great smash and a fun next shot. I think Federer maybe off balance expectinng down the line.

FEderer has had plenty of nice winners to be fair, especially at the start.

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:17 am

Tenez wrote:I find those points where Fed execute a tough BH smash with Nadal getting to the ball and looping it back an injustice to the game. It just shows that there is no point taking risk. This why Djoko and Nadal prefer to battle it out without trying to pull too many winners.

Yeah totally agree, its just like whats the point. Just stand 5m behind the baseline and chase everything down on any court.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:17 am

Some of you more diehard Federer fans struggling to enjoy this! Long way to go yet. Even if he loses console yourself with the 16 slams!

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:18 am

It is the slower surface as well. I like the mix of speeds but agree with you more on US and Wimbledon, or are you talking more about balls and fitness than court.

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:18 am

Nice Fireworks.

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Post by Tenez Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:19 am

Henman Bill wrote:Nadal got a break through his own winners and great play, rather than sitting and waiting for Federer errors.

What you call winners are in fact Fed's winners which on those slow surfaces turned against him. The dynamics are completely different from how we have known tennis since we strated watching.


Can't understand the commentators saying that 4-2 is the match for Nadal, with Federer a set up! Long way to go yet!

Of course it's over. Can't you see the physical gap is too huge? At best Federer can make the score decent from now.

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Post by Tenez Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:21 am

Henman Bill wrote:Some of you more diehard Federer fans struggling to enjoy this! Long way to go yet. Even if he loses console yourself with the 16 slams!

Well as said a few times, Fed's sharpest blade is useless to knock down the tree that Rafa is. He needs an axe, not a Gilette blade.

Murray and Djoko have the axe.

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Post by Guest Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:22 am

Hello

Very Happy

Oh minions do not despair!

I am preparing the ancient stop The Nadull dance. I have not used it since Wimby '07.

All is not lost

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:23 am

Hopefully Fed can regroup for the next set.

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Post by Simple_Analyst Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:23 am

My word Federer is a truely average volleyer. I thought he improved.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:25 am

Last 2 sets Federer got the early break...

What this time? Nadal looks more likely this time.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:27 am

Betfair still shows even odds or extremely close, 1.98 and 2. If you're so sure Tenez get on there!

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Post by Guest Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:27 am

I think you are wumming SA. We know your views but each comment is intended to wind others up rather than to offer insight in the match.

Hopefully others realise this and can just ignore it - knowing that you are just having your "fun".

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Post by Simple_Analyst Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:29 am

The line judges have been poor.

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Post by Jeremy_Kyle Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:29 am

Fed's playing with fear, this is not going to help him.....
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Post by Simple_Analyst Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:30 am

So Nore Staats you think Federer is a great volleyer?

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:31 am

Feds forehand is missing all the time. That's basically the story of the match.

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Post by legendkillar Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:31 am

Federer completely un-ravelling. Not a pretty sight.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:31 am

Yeah agree with Nore Staat. I think Federer only played freely until 4-1 or so in the first set. Since then it's a case of a mental battle and Nadal winning it.

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:32 am

I don't think he cares anymore.

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Post by Guest Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:32 am

ok this match is officially over

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Post by LuvSports! Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:34 am

yessss fedssss comeee on show the emotionnnn

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Post by Jahu Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:34 am

Vamos Feddddd
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Post by Simple_Analyst Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:36 am

At least he is getting lucky

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Post by LuvSports! Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:37 am

great hold phew

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:37 am

about time.

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Post by legendkillar Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:37 am

Nadal's dad looks like a cross between Tom Wilkinson and Paul McCartney

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:39 am

how close was that drop shot!
Stil not playing at his best but gutsy hold after the double faults

That shows the mental issue against Nadal - Federer probably hasn't hit 2 DFs in a row all tourny

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Post by mthierry Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:39 am

Lol at these Fed fanboys displaying all the traits of "fanboyism" with their bitterness. There's a long way to go yet so maybe you should enjoy the match in the spirit of the game rather than inundating this board with your endless moaning.

Goodness me!

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:40 am

As if Fed is better than ever. Spraying shots all over the place. Random dropshots. He's nothing compared to his former self this match.

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Post by HM Murdock Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:41 am

Henman Bill wrote:Yeah agree with Nore Staat. I think Federer only played freely until 4-1 or so in the first set. Since then it's a case of a mental battle and Nadal winning it.

This is what is so frustrating. Nadal is so much in Fed's head that Fed's form beforehand is virtually irrelevant. He is seized with fear that he just doesn't get with other players.

If Nadal gets to the final, it becomes very predictable. If he meets Murray, Nadal wins. If he meets Djokovic, Nadal loses.

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:41 am

Shouldn't you be enjoying the intelligent tennis yourself instead of handing out the labels?

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Post by legendkillar Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:41 am

There is still something in the match for Federer. Just got to up his performance.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:42 am

Federer played better in last year's semi against Djoko when he didn't get a set. Matchup issues and mental I guess.

Federer has shown some good mental strength at times today. And Nadal has shown some tightness. But overall, the trend is one way.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:42 am

Don't like predictability that's why I want to Fed beat Nadal, Nadal beat Djokovic and Murray beat any of them!

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Post by legendkillar Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:44 am

Mats calling Federer FH a choke?

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:47 am

Maybe, its nothing like the other matches. The shots he'd routinely hit are going out. Be interesting to see if he'll change it round.

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