England Euro 2012 squad

England squad for Euro 2012:

Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Man City), Rob Green (West Ham), John Ruddy (Norwich)

Defenders: Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Man United), John Terry (Chelsea), Joleon Lescott (Man City), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton)

Midfielders: Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Gareth Barry (Man City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Ashley Young (Man United), James Milner (Man City)

Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Man United), Danny Welbeck (Man United), Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham)

Standby players: Jack Butland (Birmingham City), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea).

Kyle Walker misses out with injury, straight fight between Johnson and Richards I'd guess.

Carroll shouldn't make it at all. He has been awful all season then hits form over what 3 games? Stupid decision.

Ruddy should go, be a good 3rd choice GK

Carroll's been improving since Christmas and has put in some very good performances since then and not just the last 3 games. Stop basing your opinions on media headlines.

Wouldn't be surprised if Roy left Rio behind as he's not the type of centre back he likes. Not saying it's the right choice if true, but not surprising.

Wonder if Terry will go, he shouldn't in my view but perhaps Roy's taken the decision to take Terry over Rio.

Walker's a big miss but now with Johnson back from injury there is some cover there. Richards didn't play many games in the last few games of the season but shouldn't be too much of a problem there.

I'm sorry but Carroll hasn't scored as many goals as either Holt or Crouch this season so I would take either those two over him anyday

Interestingly should Rio not go then he'll finish his career having never played at a European Championships.

Whoever Hodgson picks tomorrow there is going to be rumblings amongst the fans so I'll reserve judgement!

Fair enough. Couldn't argue against Holt.

I dont get all this talk about Roy Hodgson not being able to win regardless of who he picks.

The country do not expect like previous tournaments...much less pressure this time round to get out of group stages never mind mount a serious challenge.

Roy can win people over if he is brave and willing to let go of the Golden Generation...if he doesnt then im afraid to say he will lose most of the England contingency before a ball is even kicked.

By the sounds of things Rio is indeed out, as is Kyle Walker, Peter Crouch and Micah Richards.

What Richards has to do to get in I dont know. Solid when played for City this season...has fantastic pace and strength and is versatile.

Instead it seems the likes of Terry, Lampard, Johnson etc will get another chance to make a pigs ear of things!

Dissapointing doesnt begin to describe my feelings...of course I could be pleasantly surprised come the afternoon, but I dont hold my breath.

For those interested Check out my view on who should go to EURO 2012 and why at my blog:

http://aviewfrommyarmchair.blogspot.co.uk/

Great read Ozzy, of that I wouldn't take either Rio or Gerrard. Lets get the next generation in and really show that we mean business. Also I would take Joe Cole (for reasons I've given plenty of times) and Sturridge because he offers something a bit different.

Paul Ruddy deserves to go. I can understand why people are against Andy Carroll but I would be taking an inform striker.

As a QPR I can't see why Bobby Zamora would be anywhere near the squad. I can't believe any England manager would play anything other than Crouch and Rooney (a 50 international goal strikeforce) upfront.

If the leaked rumours are true Roy Hodgson is playing right into the hands of the Harry Redknapp-loving media. These leaks also show there are deep rooted problems in the England camp.

Sportsville - You raise a very good point mate. Interesting to hear where these leaks are coming from...of course they may not be true but I highly doubt the majority arent.

Im just baffled by the possibility the squad could consist of around 65% plus of the squad which went to the 2010 WC...not just because they were so poor but because of the ill discipline and rifts that existed amongst them!

The training camp in Spain has been cancelled, you heard it here first. For me this again points to expecting a similar squad to 2010 being named.

I can see much of the Golden Generation getting another shot instead of going out to Spain they will be gathered around by Roy in the hope he can heal rifts that may have existed last time around.

It appears Gary Neville's role does actually stretch further than handing the bibs out as he's reportedly swaying Hodgson's mind over taking Oxlade-Chamberlain.

I can't see him making Glen Johnson first choice right-back, he certainly wasn't in favour of Johnson at Liverpool and Hodgson actually started blaming losses on Johnson. Phil Jones or Chris Smalling will probably end up playing right back if Richards and Walker are injured.

I've been reading reports that Scholes may be included which will be great news for England. Will have a chance of keeping the ball for the first time in a major tournament.

Carroll has actually been in form recently, I would Certaintly take him. His FA Cup performance shows he's made of sterner stuff.

Strike force is likely to be Rooney, Welbeck, Carroll and Zamora.

All Time Great wrote:I've been reading reports that Scholes may be included which will be great news for England. Will have a chance of keeping the ball for the first time in a major tournament.

Carroll has actually been in form recently, I would Certaintly take him. His FA Cup performance shows he's made of sterner stuff.

Strike force is likely to be Rooney, Welbeck, Carroll and Zamora.

Can someone please tell what Carroll and Zamora have done over the course of this season which Holt and Crouch haven't? Holt and Crouch have scored over double what Carroll and Zamora have this season.

And why would Scholes play now and not in 2006, 2008, 2010? He retired in 2004 why would he come back 8 years later?

I'm guessing Holt's a bit of a 1 year wonder atm, and at 31 doesn't really offer much going forward.

Smalling probably deputy at RB and CB, saves a spot I guess if Hodgson wants another striker to cover Rooney

Scholes retired in 2004 to prolong his club career. He knows its ending next year so its not a problem I guess.

I would be surprised if Ferdinand was left out for Terry. I can't see how Terry can be considered given the problems he has had.

Oxlade-Chamberlain would be a good shout.

I think Holt would be a good shout. Not familiar with top European defenders which would make him a difficult proposition to play against. If they have never played against him or even seen him play gives us the advantage.

I do hope Hodgson goes for something different.

I Would like to see Hodgson be bold with his wing play and take Theo Walcott (can act as a 5th striker), Oxlade Chamberlain (can also play in the middle), Adam Johnson (left footed) and Ashley Young (comfortable on either wing).

I think it's a given that Barry, Gerrard, Milner and Lampard are on the plane. The injury to Parker makes it interesting however. I really want Scholes to be on that plane and start for England.

Holt wont be taken as he is a totally unknown quantity at international level. If Capello had played him in a couple of friendlies prior to Hodgson taking over then it may be a different story. I also dont think he is a good enough player at that level. Carroll is a much better player overall and has come into form, it isnt his fault Liverpool have been using tactics that dont work for him. as soon as crosses start coming in then he looks a quality player again!

No reason to take an old slow striker based off one season of Premiership success. Would take Crouch ahead of him (or even Carroll tbh as he's hit a little form and will do more damage to a foreign defence than either Crouch or Holt).

News in all the papers today though is that Rio is being dropped and Terry the Racist is going.

Disgrace.

Terry can't go on form (he's been average this season and awful recently), leadership (he's not the captain) or experience (as any experience he brings to squad is undermined by being a racist).

Rio's played better and hasn't got any clouds hanging over him that'll affect the squad.

If the stories are true I don't think I'll even bother supporting this crud.

Disgrace.

Terry can't go on form (he's been average this season and awful recently), leadership (he's not the captain) or experience (as any experience he brings to squad is undermined by being a racist).

Rio's played better and hasn't got any clouds hanging over him that'll affect the squad.

If the stories are true I don't think I'll even bother supporting this crud.

Agree mate.

Look what he did in the Semi's against Barcelona. Almost cost them a place in the final.

Ferdinand for me. He maybe slower than he used to be, but nowhere the liability that Terry is.

I would take Rooney, Welbeck, Crouch and, because Bent's out, Holt. I would certainly not take Andy Carroll who has scored FOUR goals in 32 appearances in the PL this season. Why don't we just go the whole hog and pick Heskey?

I hear we're not taking Crouch. Why the flip not? 22 goals in 42 appearances for team England.

No Richards either? I would make him probably the 2nd best RB in this country, just behind Walker. But we're not picking Walker cause he's injured. Never fear though chaps, we've got 'super' Glen Johnson.

To the positive points now. No Rio is probably a good thing because of his injury issues, especially after Ferguson said he couldn't play 2 games in 4 days.

And if we're bringing Scholes back, that's a plus. Experienced, safe option in the centre of midfield. That's pretty much it.

Of course, this is just pure speculation at the moment. We'll know for sure at 13:30

Why on earth are we taking Welbeck over Sturridge?

Who are the 3 goalkeepers. Obviously Hart and supposedly Ruddy. Fraser Forster has had a fantastic season for Celtic he would be worth a shout.

Forster?!

King Beer wrote:Why on earth are we taking Welbeck over Sturridge?

50/50 for me, Sturridge went off the boil as the season drew to a close, stat wise this season they're pretty much neck and neck.

Sturridge 43 games, 13 goals, 6 assists
Welbeck 39 games, 12 goals, 7 assists.

No you're not allowed to take anyone who doesn't play in the PL.

I imagine it's Foster if Roy can persuade him

Paul Robinson?

Hero wrote:

King Beer wrote:Why on earth are we taking Welbeck over Sturridge?

50/50 for me, Sturridge went off the boil as the season drew to a close, stat wise this season they're pretty much neck and neck.

Sturridge 43 games, 13 goals, 6 assists
Welbeck 39 games, 12 goals, 7 assists.

Sturridge can play out wide, has better control and doesn't look like Bambi on ice.

I won't even get into debating how the hell Shola isn't getting a mention.

Forster is a poor goalkeeper, made to look good in a poor SPL. There's a reason we shipped him out on loan.

King Beer wrote:Forster?!

The guys had a great season. How many times you watched him this season? Robinson and Foster don't want to go so who else you got.

Double F was cracking the year we had him on loan, i'm sure the couple of years he has had at Celtic have boosted him even more.
But is he England Material?, Only time will tell.

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:

King Beer wrote:Forster?!

The guys had a great season. How many times you watched him this season? Robinson and Foster don't want to go so who else you got.

Quite a few. When Rangers beat you 3-2 he was shocking. Seen him in a few games where his performance has been questionable. His shot stopping ability is ok, but he doesn't command his box very well or high balls.

Stockdale will be the 3rd.

Welbeck is better than Sturridge
Terry is better than Ferdinand
Carroll is better than Holt
Simples. All round.

King Beer wrote:

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:

King Beer wrote:Forster?!

The guys had a great season. How many times you watched him this season? Robinson and Foster don't want to go so who else you got.

Quite a few. When Rangers beat you 3-2 he was shocking. Seen him in a few games where his performance has been questionable. His shot stopping ability is ok, but he doesn't command his box very well or high balls.

Stockdale will be the 3rd.

The guys had a great season so I find it hard to believe you have watched him only on the 1 or 2 times he has had a bad game. I smell bulls**t!

King Beer wrote:

Hero wrote:

King Beer wrote:Why on earth are we taking Welbeck over Sturridge?

50/50 for me, Sturridge went off the boil as the season drew to a close, stat wise this season they're pretty much neck and neck.

Sturridge 43 games, 13 goals, 6 assists
Welbeck 39 games, 12 goals, 7 assists.

Sturridge can play out wide, has better control and doesn't look like Bambi on ice.

I won't even get into debating how the hell Shola isn't getting a mention.

Forster is a poor goalkeeper, made to look good in a poor SPL. There's a reason we shipped him out on loan.

He's also the second most one-footed player in the Premiership (after Valencia) and is too greedy without the results to show for it. Sturridge looked immense in the first 4-6 months of the season and I thought he'd be a shoe in but he really has come off the boil. Dare I say it Theo would probably be a better pick right now as a wide forward.

Electric Demon wrote:
Carroll is better than Holt
Simples. All round.

I had more faith in you Demon, I thought you would see the all round quality of the horse

Electric Demon wrote:Welbeck is better than Sturridge
Terry is better than Ferdinand
Carroll is better than Holt
Simples. All round.

And Steve Kean is better than Hodgson!

Well that is what I was hoping the FA thought

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:

King Beer wrote:

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:

King Beer wrote:Forster?!

The guys had a great season. How many times you watched him this season? Robinson and Foster don't want to go so who else you got.

Quite a few. When Rangers beat you 3-2 he was shocking. Seen him in a few games where his performance has been questionable. His shot stopping ability is ok, but he doesn't command his box very well or high balls.

Stockdale will be the 3rd.

The guys had a great season so I find it hard to believe you have watched him only on the 1 or 2 times he has had a bad game. I smell bulls**t!

Ahh, of course, cause you would know my viewing habits. Even in the games v Hibs he looked ropey. He may be a good SPL keeper, but he's not England material. If he had something about him, we wouldn't allow him on loan at Celtic and sign a back up player like Elliot.

I smell typical SPL and Smeltic bias?

ncfc_Tooze wrote:

Electric Demon wrote:
Carroll is better than Holt
Simples. All round.

I had more faith in you Demon, I thought you would see the all round quality of the horse

You know I love a unit Tooze.
But he's too old, and I just think Carroll offers a lot in terms of supporting the whole team. He holds the ball up well, he can take a man on, he can manhandle anyone (gave Terry hell in the Cup Final a few weeks back), and he gets back and puts in a shift.
Plus it's a lot to ask of Holt to live up to the pressure. Playing at Norwich, first season in the Premier is a relatively pressure-less environment. Carroll's had to deal with it all year, and turning the Anfield negativity towards him into the standing ovations he was getting at the end of the season, shows he's dealt with it superbly, and is capable of dealing with pressure - and an England cup run is the worst there is!
He's not just had 3 good games, he's been excellent every chance he's had since the Man United FA Cup game.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

King Beer wrote:

Hero wrote:

King Beer wrote:Why on earth are we taking Welbeck over Sturridge?

50/50 for me, Sturridge went off the boil as the season drew to a close, stat wise this season they're pretty much neck and neck.

Sturridge 43 games, 13 goals, 6 assists
Welbeck 39 games, 12 goals, 7 assists.

Sturridge can play out wide, has better control and doesn't look like Bambi on ice.

I won't even get into debating how the hell Shola isn't getting a mention.

Forster is a poor goalkeeper, made to look good in a poor SPL. There's a reason we shipped him out on loan.

He's also the second most one-footed player in the Premiership (after Valencia) and is too greedy without the results to show for it. Sturridge looked immense in the first 4-6 months of the season and I thought he'd be a shoe in but he really has come off the boil. Dare I say it Theo would probably be a better pick right now as a wide forward.

Are you referring to Sturridge?

I'm interested to see whether he takes the Ox. To me, he's worth the gamble over Walcott, especially if he's taking Cole and Johnson (Adam).

King Beer wrote:

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:

King Beer wrote:

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:

King Beer wrote:Forster?!

The guys had a great season. How many times you watched him this season? Robinson and Foster don't want to go so who else you got.

Quite a few. When Rangers beat you 3-2 he was shocking. Seen him in a few games where his performance has been questionable. His shot stopping ability is ok, but he doesn't command his box very well or high balls.

Stockdale will be the 3rd.

The guys had a great season so I find it hard to believe you have watched him only on the 1 or 2 times he has had a bad game. I smell bulls**t!

Ahh, of course, cause you would know my viewing habits. Even in the games v Hibs he looked ropey. He may be a good SPL keeper, but he's not England material. If he had something about him, we wouldn't allow him on loan at Celtic and sign a back up player like Elliot.

I smell typical SPL and Smeltic bias?

No mate he's played 40 games this season and had 2 or 3 bad ones and they seem to be the ones you have watched. Newcastle have a fantastic young keeper in Krul so it makes more sense to let him out on loan you can pull in a good fee for him now. We've been priced out. England have 1 good keeper and the rest are average. Forster is as good as any of the rest who want to play.

i would take holt despite his lack of int exp. some of the goals hes scored this season for a man of his size have been real class. i really wanna see hooper go too. and not because of his 5 goals at the weekend but because hes shown he can link up with other players and imo he has a world class finish

Anyone who hasnt had a peek you can check out my thoughts on who should be going to EURO 2012 at my football blog:

http://aviewfrommyarmchair.blogspot.co.uk/

Greggers can vouch for it being quite a good read

As for who I actually think will go...to be honest everytime I think about it i have tears in my eyes it makes me that depressed.

I went to bed fearing nightmares after the rumours started flying last night...safe to say im feeling no better today.

I fear we are going to see plenty of the old guard return, look out for the following to be named:

Terry, Lampard, G.Johnson, S.Downing, D.Bent, M.Carrick

And it genuinly wouldnt surprise me if some of the names below even got in:

King, Zamora,Defoe, Wright Phillips/Murphy!

Dark horse.......................... Michael Dawson.

dawsons injured

Booooo!

New rumours suggesting Downing and Defoe. Oh God this is horrendous...

Defoe, Downing, Terry, Lampard, Johnson...

Do these managers learn nothing!!

Im half expecting Jordan Henderson and Danny Murphy to be named at this rate!!