Floyd's treatment of Khan is 'a disgrace', says Bob Arum

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EXCLUSIVE: Promoter Bob Arum says Amir Khan is being "humiliated" by Floyd Mayweather and believes the American will fight Marcos Maidana.


By Gareth A Davies, Boxing Correspondent 10:08AM GMT 19 Feb 2014

Amir Khan has been ritually humiliated by Floyd Mayweather and made a laughing stock, claims veteran promoter Bob Arum, who has even labelled Mayweather's actions "a disgrace".

Arum, who promoted Muhammad Ali and has overseen the rise of Manny Pacquiao, believes Khan will not get the fight with Mayweather he has been holding out for since November last year. Mayweather has stated that he will fight on May 3, but is refusing to announce his opponent yet.

Khan signed a contract to fight Mayweather this year, made that fact public last year and, in the last two weeks, the undefeated American has set up a poll on his Twitter account asking fans to vote on whether he should fight Khan, or Argentinian Marcos Maidana.

"What he has done to Amir Khan is absolutely disgraceful, whether he ends up fighting him, or he doesn't," Arum told Telegraph Sport in an exclusive interview from Macau, China, where his boxer, Zou Shiming, the former double Olympic gold medallist, fights this weekend.

"My feeling is he is not going to fight him, but it's disgraceful to do that to another human being because you are in a position to do that. Just because he has the power where you can do something like that.

"If a promoter did it, if a Bob Arum or a Frank Warren did it the press would be all over them. They have allowed Myweather to get away with this s***. It's terrible.

"They have twisted the kid in the wind. Mayweather should be ashamed of himself. He's not going to sign the contract. I think he will fight Maidana."

Arum's advice? Forget about the payday with undefeated Mayweather - boxing's No 1 pound-for-pound fighter.
"Cut your ties with these people, be a man," he said. "You were the great hope of England at one point. I have Olympic gold medal winners with me. The pride with which Vasyl Lomachenko and Zou Shiming carry themselves is astonishing."

Lomachenko, the double Olympic gold medallist, and one of the most decorated amateur fighters in history, is in action next weekend in San Antonio, Texas, fighting Orlando Salido for the WBO featherweight world title - only his second professional fight.

"These people will never be humiliated like that," Arum added. "Amir Khan has put himself in a position where he can be humiliated. He's like a laughing stock. Terrible. Absolutely terrible.

"He's not fighting back and telling these guys to get lost. Get another promoter, maybe go back to Frank Warren, get another opponent and tell them to p*** off."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/10648329/Floyd-Mayweathers-treatment-of-Amir-Khan-is-a-disgrace-says-promoter-Bob-Arum.html

I don't know how I could say he was an ATG either..

I'll have a go at myself for sure when I say it !!!

Khan should have fought Alexander instead of messing him around. It's not even a case of hindsight. At the time the fight made sense as a stepping stone to mayweather.
Khan took the Diaz fight to showcase his new trainer, can't fault him for that soft touch, because he really hasn't cherry picked since he went stateside.
But mayweather isn't endearing with his treatment of both Khan and maidana. Bob has a point, but when the devil is calling you a sinner, you've got to question his motives.

Kotelnik who?

The guy who was robbed blind against Alexander as well as beating Maidana, yeah he's a real nobody. As for Judah not being able to punch who have you been watching, his KO of Mazuba was chilling.

Can we stop with this Khan was luck against Maidana rubbish. He had one very bad round, he was given the chance to get through it and he did. Deservedly got the nod on the cards.

As I said, prior to Peterson Khan's record is decent but in recent times his performances have left a lot to be desired. For a start, he hasn't even fought at WW!

He should have beaten Devon rather than swerve him, it was ideal.

How about we try and forget that it's Mayweather Vs Khan we're talking about and whether he deserves it or not. Call it fighter A vs Fighter B.

It's been reported all over the show that Fighter B will fight Fighter A next year, rumours keep going around (if there was no truth to it, i think the rumour would have died,) and then there's a poll which fighter B wins.

This has all taken place over the course of a year, until Fighter A says, naaaah just kidding think i'll pick someone else.

We'd all be going mad about it saying that no fighter deserves to be messed about like that and how stupid it makes the sport of boxing look. (Think back to when Fury said he'd fight price, beat him etc etc, then vacated instead.)

You cannot fault fighter B for chasing this fight either, everybody's saying he's on the slide and won't last long so why shouldn't he go for the biggest payday he'll recieve??? i'm sure if your boss offered you a pay rise, you wouldn't say 'actually Jim over there works harder, give it to him'  

So its alright for Khan to mess Alexander around for months about a fight, but its somehow a disgrace when it happens to poor Amir. The lad needs to shut up and get on with his career who knows he might actually earn a big fight that way.

Rowley wrote:Can we stop with this Khan was luck against Maidana rubbish. He had one very bad round, he was given the chance to get through it and he did. Deservedly got the nod on the cards.

This statement is abundantly incorrect

and yes thats how you spell abundantly

cheers rodders

Khan needs to be pointing his finger at Richard Schaefer if this backfires , no boxer wants to be inactive and not paid. Surely team Khan had the nous to say to GBPs CEO I want some contractual agreement I'm in line for Mayweather next or a loss of earnings reinbursment. Everyone seems to blow smoke up Mayweathers backside and his a little toerag.

Cheers Rodders

What happens when you guarantee bucks .....

Tubbs, Thomas and the rest used to beg for a Tyson payday..

Not that it's a good thing...

When you are the marquee name...People suck butt.

Never a truer word said Truss. I read Mayweather wants to make a big announcement on twitter on who his next opponent is. What a little twerp.

Cheers Rodders

So what we're basically saying is that as it goes on it's fine???

If you read the analogy i wrote, Khan is also at fault for messing Alexander around, as is any boxer that does similar.

Too many people are happy to let it slide cause it's Mayweather, or shout he deserves it because it's Khan.

How do you intend to stop it happening ?..

When the Glazers took over at Manchester U...People were going to never support Utd again...

Been full at Utd ever since...

Mayweather won't be around much longer..

Enjoy the fighter..Ignore the politics...

Boxing isn't changing anytime soon..

The age of chivalry is dead..

Truss:

I've got no idea how to stop it happening as Mayweather is worth too much to the boxing bodies for them to even condemn what he's done/does (same goes for big teams in football.)

But to sit there and say nothing gives you no right to voice an opinion when something you don't like happens as the consensus could be 'oh well it happens'

As a boxer Mayweather is fantastic, as a person not so much and stunts like this will ultimately hurt his legacy not enhance it. (Remember he's the one that put the poll up letting the fans pick his opponent.)

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:

Rowley wrote:Can we stop with this Khan was luck against Maidana rubbish. He had one very bad round, he was given the chance to get through it and he did. Deservedly got the nod on the cards.

This statement is abundantly incorrect

and yes thats how you spell abundantly

cheers rodders

In what way was he lucky onetwo?

Mayweather's legacy will be based on his record..

You are not naive to believe Boxing hasn't always been full of politics....

Tyson broke his hand on Mitch's head and crashed his car.....was out for nine months...Your little guy with the IBF strap was stripped after a couple...

Go with the flow..

Boxing is about business, its not always fair but that's life. Over the many years the Sport has been around lots of much better fighters than Khan have not won titles, or not given deserved title shots or became multimillionaires is that fair ? no, its just the way it is. Khan has had a good rub of the green in general especially when you consider he has lost to his best 2 opponents and been utterly destroyed by a journeyman.

Rowley wrote:

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:

Rowley wrote:Can we stop with this Khan was luck against Maidana rubbish. He had one very bad round, he was given the chance to get through it and he did. Deservedly got the nod on the cards.

This statement is abundantly incorrect

and yes thats how you spell abundantly

cheers rodders

In what way was he lucky onetwo?

Erm lets see

He was beaten around the ring in rounds 8 9 and 10 and if we are to accept the Groves stoppage then we must admit that the khan v Maidana fight SHOULD have been stopped mid way in the 10th.

Khan was out and not defending himself.

Sorry you 2 but i can't agree with that.

Just because something has 'always' been that way doesn't mean you shouldn't point out when something isn't fair etc etc.

They always said football would never have goal line technology, enough people complained and look where we are now ;-)

If you don't complain when the best pull this crap you can't complain when it happens on the lower end of the scale.

For Onetwo i'm not sure any of us accepted the Groves stoppage was fair

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
He was beaten around the ring in rounds 8 9 and 10 and if we are to accept the Groves stoppage then we must admit that the khan v Maidana fight SHOULD have been stopped mid way in the 10th.

The lack of debate around Froch Groves suggests we all did accept the stoppage doesn't it.

Khan was lucky the ref didnt make a balls of it?

Its obvious now that Khan is willing to wait and hope he is chosen to face Mayweather. No doubt he has lost a great deal of respect by the boxing community but he wants that pay day.

Fair enough he is a pro and can opt for the money but Khan has to admit that he is jumping the que to face Mayweather and should apologize to his peers who will no doubt accept his apology and give him their blessing.

But Khan has said nothing so far and it looks bad on him.

They are both to blame. Its disgraceful Mayweather is even considering Khan and its obvious that once both parties got into negotiations that Khan was always going to hang around waiting for the pay day. He knew Mayweather would not be fighting again until May though so he knew he would have been out of the ring for a year with a dodgy performance behind him and never even a proper welterweight fight. Mayweather shouldnt be considering him in the first place and left Khan to get on with it.

In the last year quite a few people have suggested Khan is ready to retire and wants one last payday before sailing into the sunset to join his dad in the robber baron business.

Don't understand the Khan hate, probably the ypically British thing of building someone up only to knock them down.

For those that are saying he has had a poor career, you need to look at yourselves.

Britain hasn't had a huge amount of two weight world champions who have also won a medal at the olympics.

I can understand that people don't like him for a variety of reasons and that's fair enough but he is still one of the top British fighters of the last 20 years and will probably go down as one of our best alongside the likes of Hatton, Haye, Calzaghe, Naz etc.

Would be interested to see who these people would consider to have had a good career...

He definitely only wants the fight for the payday. What sort of preparation is 13months of inactivity, 0 welterweight fights and a dodgy recent performance for Mayweather? Not to mention his own trainer basically saying he isnt putting in the effort.

Khan isnt even a proper one weight world champion. How many Brits would be multi weight world champions if there always 5 belts to choose from and a three times as many weight classes?

They are both to blame but i'm not sure on how much you can give Khan, as has been mentioned before. Boxing is also a business and he's holding out for the biggest pay day so can't really fault him there. BUT it's the sports (sporting bodies) faults really for allowing things like this to happen.

The best way would be if they'd stop dicking about and having strange rankings and refusing to acknowledge each other. Aaaaargh i get proper frustrated with this sometimes.

Worst thing about it is that it could steer people away from taking up boxing. (who wants to put in all that hard work to get shafted at the end.)

catchweight wrote:Khan isnt even a proper one weight world champion. How many Brits would be multi weight world champions if there always 5 belts to choose from and a three times as many weight classes?

There have been this many titles for a while, how many three weight (we may as well try to get someone better) worls champions has Britain had in the last 10 or 20 years?

Surely there must be loads which is why it is so easy to slate Khan's achievements.

I agree Huw all this Khan slapping is above and beyond..

Probably ten Brits in the 25 years with his record and accomplishments..

Can anyone explain to me why Khan should have refused this fight? I mean people are shouting that he's done and on his last legs so why not go out on a massive payday???

You can slate Mayweather for picking him, but i'm not sure why you can slate Khan for taking it. While i don't like the fact he messed Alexander about and has basically done nothing for a while, again i'm not sure why we'd expect him to risk this massive payday, considering he's nearly done and is a never was in the first place???

Do you mean how many Brits have won a world title in a weight class? There have been plenty.

Its hyperbolic crap rolling out these world title achievements nowadays. Picking up one of the many world titles available today is nowhere near as hard as in past history. Britain has produced plenty of one weight world champions who merely held a title. Even Scott Quigg, Jamie McDonnell and Stuart Hall are doing it these days for a bit of perspective.

I said record and achievements..

You don't respect anybody Mate..I'm afraid..

But fairplay..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I said record and achievements..

You don't respect anybody Mate..I'm afraid..

But fairplay..

https://www.606v2.com/t47455-amir-khan-what-is-the-point-of-this-guy

There you go Big Daddy

I was upset he didn't try to revenge his defeats...

I don't see Rees beating Maidana..

You are very childish..Hammer is right.

Back on the subject though this does remind me slightly of when people moan about the situation at heavyweight when Wlad offers people peanuts. As I said on that issue there are ways of remedying the situation, the first and most obvious is become mandatory. The second is to do things where you bring something to the table, Haye did it by securing a belt and a PPV audience, because of this he got offered a damned sight better offer than someone like Chisora would secure.

Have to say it similar applies here. Khan is getting buggered about for the simple reason Floyd can afford to do it. Will not harm his legacy one jot if he does or does not fight Khan and in terms of audience, PPV support or recent form Amir unfortunately brings little to the table. Eminently reasonable arguments that one fighter should not have so much power but the problems are systemic in the structure of the sport currently, Floyd is a product of a flawed system, not its creator.

catchweight wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I said record and achievements..

You don't respect anybody Mate..I'm afraid..

But fairplay..

https://www.606v2.com/t47455-amir-khan-what-is-the-point-of-this-guy

There you go Big Daddy

    

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I was upset he didn't try to revenge his defeats...

I don't see Rees beating Maidana..

You are very childish..Hammer is right.

You and Hammer make such a cute couple

In the article I wrote where does it say he's not a British great..

Catchy save your angry young man for someone that's interested..

Rowley I reckon Mayweather misjudged Khan's British market..

You are right my friend

Rowley wrote:Back on the subject though this does remind me slightly of when people moan about the situation at heavyweight when Wlad offers people peanuts. As I said on that issue there are ways of remedying the situation, the first and most obvious is become mandatory. The second is to do things where you bring something to the table, Haye did it by securing a belt and a PPV audience, because of this he got offered a damned sight better offer than someone like Chisora would secure.

Have to say it similar applies here. Khan is getting buggered about for the simple reason Floyd can afford to do it. Will not harm his legacy one jot if he does or does not fight Khan and in terms of audience, PPV support or recent form Amir unfortunately brings little to the table. Eminently reasonable arguments that one fighter should not have so much power but the problems are systemic in the structure of the sport currently, Floyd is a product of a flawed system, not its creator.

Floyd has been undefeated for more thyen 16 years now.

He has been a p4p contender for the last 10 or so years.

In any era that is special indeed. Boxing corporations are to blame not Floyd he is blameless

cheers rodders

Someone might find you humourous one day Onetwo.

Cheers Rodders

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How many other British fighters have a record like Khan's with two titles at different weights ?

Maidana, Paulie, Judah, mcloskey, Kotelnik...Not too far removed from Hamed's best wins...

Not that he's quite that good..
Say what you like about his credentials for fighting Floyd..

But he's a top British fighter..

Have a bit more respect..

Maidana - Lucky to win

Paulie - good win but nothing special

Mcloskey - who?

Kotelnik - who?

Judah - what version of Judah are we talking about here? The prime Judah? or the current just another payday Judah.

Just don't comment on Khan Truss you should know better.

How you can say Khan is a nailed on ATG and a far better fighter the Naz is beyond me.

A pretty harsh assessment. I wouldn't say he was lucky to win against Maidana. He was winning handily. If anything he was unlucky that it got as close as it did. Kotelnik was a solid titleholder - a really decent win. He took Malignaggi apart in a way that really hasn't been done before or since.

Not an unbelievable record, but a good one.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:In the article I wrote where does it say he's not a British great..

Catchy save your angry young man for someone that's interested..

Rowley I reckon Mayweather misjudged Khan's British market..

You are right my friend

Think it was after about the 50th Boxrec accusation that I grew tired of him, it's best to ignore those who contribute nothing but aggressive rants.

Rod ..A pro Floyd post...We know it isn't you Mate...

Mayweather is not a product of a flawed system. He is a contributor. He can fight anyone he pleases whether they are mandatory, hold belts or whatever else. Becoming mandatory wont get you a shot at Mayweather if he doesnt want it (has even fought a mandatory in the last 7/8years). All that matters is you can shift enough sales so Mayweather gets his 30 million. If you happen to be a top fighter thats now past their best or an overhyped hispanic then all the better.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:In the article I wrote where does it say he's not a British great..

Catchy save your angry young man for someone that's interested..

Rowley I reckon Mayweather misjudged Khan's British market..

You are right my friend

Think it was after about the 50th Boxrec accusation that I grew tired of him, it's best to ignore those who contribute nothing but aggressive rants.

Nah it was way before that. I remember you went whining to the mods and then I found out you have gone through numerous accounts here because you have been banned so often. It was very funny.

It's common knowledge that I've had previous accounts, you must have been the only one who didn't know. It's hardly ground breaking news, what exactly do you contribute other than hurling childish insults at everyone? I'm going to wager your reply will prove my point exactly.

No I just found it hilarious that a guy acts like he is the moral superior of the board has actually been banned numerous times and then just goes off and creates a new account to come back on. Just like your boxing chat, you are fraud.

Bingo.

Yahtzee