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by TheMildlyFranticLlama Mon 11 Jan 2016, 4:09 pm

Well you're all making me curse my choice of career paths with this talk of living in exotic places!

Not that the chance to move to the toilet that is Detroit doesn't appeal hugely, obviously

by jimbopip Mon 11 Jan 2016, 5:41 pm

WTF is going on here?

I thought this was the place to discuss rugby matter. Shocked

Shocked I am, totally shocked.

BTW, London is a hugely overpriced cess pit. Edinburgh is ten times more enjoyable to live in: and you get to see Glasgow every day. You don't know when you're well off RDW.

by **BigGee** Mon 11 Jan 2016, 7:05 pm

jimbopip wrote:WTF is going on here?

I thought this was the place to discuss rugby matter.

Shocked I am, totally shocked.

BTW, London is a hugely overpriced cess pit. Edinburgh is ten times more enjoyable to live in: and you get to see Glasgow every day. You don't know when you're well off RDW.

Not going to agree with you there Jim.

Lived here since I was 18 and it is a great unique, cosmopolitan place. You don't realise what a big city is like until you have lived in London. I have kids in Bristol, Birmingham and Manchester, family in Glasgow but they are all like small villages compared to London. Every day you see something new. My kids, who are at university in all these other great places, can't wait to get back here.

I am very proud to be Scottish, but I have to say I love living in London.

by madmaccas Mon 11 Jan 2016, 8:42 pm

Kilt-slips and relocations aside, was thinking which fringe players would potentially work well as Exiles.

If the SRU think that a load of academy players will get game time and thrive in a very tough league, then they'll have a rude awakening. You just need to look at the ranks of the Brizzle, Yorkshire and Doncaster to see that they'll be up against capped players.

So had a look through the two squads and these players aren't getting much gametime and would stand a good chance of breaking into the team. The starred players are the ones I'd really love to see head down, even even just for a few games.

Junior Bulumakau *
Gregor Hunter
Sam Johnson *
Otulea Katoa *
Jade Te Rure (someone would be pleased!)
Nick McLennan *
Magnus Bradbury *
Jamie Ritchie *
George Turner
Will Bordill *
Hugh Blake *
Scott Cummings *
James Eddie *
James Malcolm
D‘arcy Rae
Javan Sebastian *

Have I missed anyone?

by **BigGee** Mon 11 Jan 2016, 9:23 pm

On the whole I think it will be the younger up and coming players who will make the trip south. Much like Hughes, Horne and Fergerson who are down at the moment, I have seen a couple of the televised games and all three of them are doing very well and do not look at all out of place at this level.

It won't be easy just to chop and change players every couple of games, they are only likely to get real benefit (club and players) if they commit to a bit of time down there.

Mark out some players for the future or as a means of bringing someone back from a long term injury. There is so much potential in this arrangement.

by MacKnocked-on Mon 11 Jan 2016, 11:03 pm

madmaccas wrote:Kilt-slips and relocations aside, was thinking which fringe players would potentially work well as Exiles.

If the SRU think that a load of academy players will get game time and thrive in a very tough league, then they'll have a rude awakening. You just need to look at the ranks of the Brizzle, Yorkshire and Doncaster to see that they'll be up against capped players.

So had a look through the two squads and these players aren't getting much gametime and would stand a good chance of breaking into the team. The starred players are the ones I'd really love to see head down, even even just for a few games.

Junior Bulumakau *
Gregor Hunter
Sam Johnson *
Otulea Katoa *
Jade Te Rure (someone would be pleased!)
Nick McLennan *
Magnus Bradbury *
Jamie Ritchie *
George Turner
Will Bordill *
Hugh Blake *
Scott Cummings *
James Eddie *
James Malcolm
D‘arcy Rae
Javan Sebastian *

Have I missed anyone?

What's the contract situation with Johnson, is he regarded as a 'project player' or is he already SQ. If he is a 'project player' then would sending him to play in London affect his 3yr residency or is being in the UK the requirement rather than specifically Scotland?

by **George Carlin** Tue 12 Jan 2016, 7:27 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:We went to NZ for the 2011 world cup and absolutely loved the place - it is definitely somewhere we would want to live at some point. Me being a civil engineer that specialises in earthquake engineering would be a plus point in getting a job too!

The only thing about NZ is that it is great to visit and great to live but not the best to work, with salaries not great (although also not bad) and a relatively expensive cost of living given everything is imported. You don't get many holidays too so have to buy lots if you want to travel or head home every so often.

We've not actually been to Australia but we know a lot of people who have moved there and who love it, and we both would get bigger salaries there (albeit expensive cost of living again).

We're still ~~young~~ smug enough to potentially experience all 3 though, which is good!

Fixed that for you.

I lived in London for 14.5 years plus lived in Beijing for a short while, plus have travelled to USA, Canada, Mexico, Argentina, India, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Nepal, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Spain, Gibraltar, France, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Germany, Netherlands, Czech Republic, Italy, Russia, Croatia, Turkey, Belgium, Ireland, Sweden, Denmark, Liechtenstein and Monaco. I don't feel too hard done by.

In contrast I spent my weekend simply waiting for BabyfES to have a very overdue poo. She didn't. She spent last night screaming and then my Monday morning was taken up trying to force my way into a GP appointment so that they could prescribe something that will give her the shytes all night. Very much looking forward to it, especially as Mrs fES has a perfectly planned trip to London this week.....

Surely conclusive proof of the ADHD which we have all long suspected?

As a British person with 2 kids I am familiar with both emotional and child incontinence. In terms of effective relief, I can recommend marrying a North American-Arab for the first problem and Duphalac for the second problem.

by Majestic83 Tue 12 Jan 2016, 9:51 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
EWT Spoons wrote:I'm sure you don't actually come here for life advice RDW, but I would recommend going to Oz. It's a great place to live, plus if you want to see more than just one place it seems like a good place to start. By that I mean if you move to London it'll be more comfortable (i.e familiar) and there is a real chance you'll just settle into a job/life and not move anywhere else. At least with Oz you can come back to the UK if you want, but when you get older you are less likely to want to move to the other side of the world to something totally new.

I don't but it is all gratefully received!

I'm probably more keen for Australia than Mrs RDW-to-be, partly because she is terrified of spiders!

Melbourne is the place for you guys to move then in Australia. Lived in Oz for a couple years and Melbourne was definitely my favourite city. If you love sports it is the sporting capital of Australia with Rugby union, rugby league, Aussie Rules, football, Formula 1, MotoGP, Tennis, Surfing going on all the time there.
Much more relaxed than Sydney and also a lot cheaper as well. Sydney was nice but very very expensive and very pretentious.
Melbourne was a far nicer climate as well and you didn't get as many of the spiders,snakes and jellyfish that like to kill you.

Also lived on the west coast in Perth and would highly recommend there.

by madmaccas Tue 12 Jan 2016, 10:03 am

BigGee wrote:On the whole I think it will be the younger up and coming players who will make the trip south. Much like Hughes, Horne and Fergerson who are down at the moment, I have seen a couple of the televised games and all three of them are doing very well and do not look at all out of place at this level.

It won't be easy just to chop and change players every couple of games, they are only likely to get real benefit (club and players) if they commit to a bit of time down there.

Mark out some players for the future or as a means of bringing someone back from a long term injury. There is so much potential in this arrangement.

Oh definitely. Horne and Hughes are definitely the brightest of the bunch. Fergusson looks solid, if a touch pedestrian. Cosgrove is a big lad but is getting shoved all over the shop, but then he is very young for a prop and will no doubt improve with every game.

I agree about the time aspect. It takes weeks to learn moves and start to gel into a team, and no point unless they'll be down for a few months.

The guys I think would help the team, benefit most from more pro exposure and need the gametime would be:

Will Bordill
Hugh Blake (would love to see him get a string of games)
Scott Cummings (this lad is one for the near future and would benefit from a forward orientated league)
Magnus Bradbury (as above)
D‘arcy Rae (as above)
Jade Te Rure (his running style would suit Scottish)
and James Eddie (who has been out injured and out of favour for some time)
Junior Bulumakau (hasn't played a game for ages and needs some solid time)

by **RDW** Tue 12 Jan 2016, 10:09 am

madmaccas wrote:
BigGee wrote:On the whole I think it will be the younger up and coming players who will make the trip south. Much like Hughes, Horne and Fergerson who are down at the moment, I have seen a couple of the televised games and all three of them are doing very well and do not look at all out of place at this level.

It won't be easy just to chop and change players every couple of games, they are only likely to get real benefit (club and players) if they commit to a bit of time down there.

Mark out some players for the future or as a means of bringing someone back from a long term injury. There is so much potential in this arrangement.

Oh definitely. Horne and Hughes are definitely the brightest of the bunch. Fergusson looks solid, if a touch pedestrian. Cosgrove is a big lad but is getting shoved all over the shop, but then he is very young for a prop and will no doubt improve with every game.

I agree about the time aspect. It takes weeks to learn moves and start to gel into a team, and no point unless they'll be down for a few months.

The guys I think would help the team, benefit most from more pro exposure and need the gametime would be:

Will Bordill
Hugh Blake (would love to see him get a string of games)
Scott Cummings (this lad is one for the near future and would benefit from a forward orientated league)
Magnus Bradbury (as above)
D‘arcy Rae (as above)
Jade Te Rure (his running style would suit Scottish)
and James Eddie (who has been out injured and out of favour for some time)
Junior Bulumakau (hasn't played a game for ages and needs some solid time)

I heartily endorse this move!

by madmaccas Tue 12 Jan 2016, 10:10 am

Majestic83 wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
EWT Spoons wrote:I'm sure you don't actually come here for life advice RDW, but I would recommend going to Oz. It's a great place to live, plus if you want to see more than just one place it seems like a good place to start. By that I mean if you move to London it'll be more comfortable (i.e familiar) and there is a real chance you'll just settle into a job/life and not move anywhere else. At least with Oz you can come back to the UK if you want, but when you get older you are less likely to want to move to the other side of the world to something totally new.

I don't but it is all gratefully received!

I'm probably more keen for Australia than Mrs RDW-to-be, partly because she is terrified of spiders!

Melbourne is the place for you guys to move then in Australia. Lived in Oz for a couple years and Melbourne was definitely my favourite city. If you love sports it is the sporting capital of Australia with Rugby union, rugby league, Aussie Rules, football, Formula 1, MotoGP, Tennis, Surfing going on all the time there.
Much more relaxed than Sydney and also a lot cheaper as well. Sydney was nice but very very expensive and very pretentious.
Melbourne was a far nicer climate as well and you didn't get as many of the spiders,snakes and jellyfish that like to kill you.

Also lived on the west coast in Perth and would highly recommend there.

I found the exact opposite! There's a reason they have a 'Real Housewives of Melbourne' TV show, a lot of suburban keeping up with the Joneses. Whereas Sydney was much more buzzy, far better weather (no-one told me how much it rained in Melbourne and that it went below 0 in winter) and they actually have some descent rugby teams! If you want to experience the Australian outdoor lifestyle year round, give Victoria a miss. If you want home away from home, give it a look.

by madmaccas Tue 12 Jan 2016, 10:24 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
madmaccas wrote:
Jade Te Rure (his running style would suit Scottish)

I heartily endorse this move!

I thought you might

by **BigGee** Tue 12 Jan 2016, 11:52 am

madmaccas wrote:

The guys I think would help the team, benefit most from more pro exposure and need the gametime would be:

Will Bordill
Hugh Blake (would love to see him get a string of games)
Scott Cummings (this lad is one for the near future and would benefit from a forward orientated league)
Magnus Bradbury (as above)
D‘arcy Rae (as above)
Jade Te Rure (his running style would suit Scottish)
and James Eddie (who has been out injured and out of favour for some time)
Junior Bulumakau (hasn't played a game for ages and needs some solid time)

I would agree on most of these players.

Hugh Blake, I think we will see playing more and more for Glasgow now, especially in the international window, he may even make the international squad, so I doubt he will be coming. Junior as well will be playing when Hoggy and Seymour are away. James Eddie I think was only really kept on for the WC and I think may well be let go at the end of this season.

by funnyExiledScot Tue 12 Jan 2016, 12:28 pm

I agree that Blake should stay with the Glasgow squad. He has the makings of a terrific openside and although there's competition there from Favaro and Fusaro I would say that Blake is the best at playing that link role between backs and forwards. In fact you could try Favaro at 6 and Blake at 7, with Strauss at 8. Glasgow certainly have the brand of rugby to make that compelling at Pro12 level, albeit I think Rob Harley has been sorely missed in the Champions Cup.

I was sceptical re: Blake when I first saw him play, and certainly his promotion to Scotland duties was premature, but the more I see of him the more I think he's got something. He's quite similar to Ross Rennie actually.

by Majestic83 Tue 12 Jan 2016, 1:01 pm

madmaccas wrote:
Majestic83 wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
EWT Spoons wrote:I'm sure you don't actually come here for life advice RDW, but I would recommend going to Oz. It's a great place to live, plus if you want to see more than just one place it seems like a good place to start. By that I mean if you move to London it'll be more comfortable (i.e familiar) and there is a real chance you'll just settle into a job/life and not move anywhere else. At least with Oz you can come back to the UK if you want, but when you get older you are less likely to want to move to the other side of the world to something totally new.

I don't but it is all gratefully received!

I'm probably more keen for Australia than Mrs RDW-to-be, partly because she is terrified of spiders!

Melbourne is the place for you guys to move then in Australia. Lived in Oz for a couple years and Melbourne was definitely my favourite city. If you love sports it is the sporting capital of Australia with Rugby union, rugby league, Aussie Rules, football, Formula 1, MotoGP, Tennis, Surfing going on all the time there.
Much more relaxed than Sydney and also a lot cheaper as well. Sydney was nice but very very expensive and very pretentious.
Melbourne was a far nicer climate as well and you didn't get as many of the spiders,snakes and jellyfish that like to kill you.

Also lived on the west coast in Perth and would highly recommend there.

I found the exact opposite! There's a reason they have a 'Real Housewives of Melbourne' TV show, a lot of suburban keeping up with the Joneses. Whereas Sydney was much more buzzy, far better weather (no-one told me how much it rained in Melbourne and that it went below 0 in winter) and they actually have some descent rugby teams! If you want to experience the Australian outdoor lifestyle year round, give Victoria a miss. If you want home away from home, give it a look.

Surprised at that, found the people in Melbourne far friendlier and the buzz around Melbourne was excellent as there was always some sort of event on whether it be sports event, comedy festival, food market/festival or music event. Sydney was all rush rush rush whenever I stayed there. They certainly do have good local rugby in Sydney with the shute shield, played a few games for Manly and all the clubs we played were a very professional set up.
For the full on proper Australian outdoor lifestyle head to the west coast and Perth.

by **RDW** Tue 12 Jan 2016, 1:08 pm

So the main thing I've learned from everyone's advice is that everyone is different, and one person's heaven might be another person's hell! Laugh

Thanks though - I'm sure I'll be in touch with individuals once a decision has been made. Or at least, the decision is made for me...

by **George Carlin** Tue 12 Jan 2016, 1:25 pm

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by madmaccas Tue 12 Jan 2016, 2:02 pm

BigGee wrote:
madmaccas wrote:

The guys I think would help the team, benefit most from more pro exposure and need the gametime would be:

Will Bordill
Hugh Blake (would love to see him get a string of games)
Scott Cummings (this lad is one for the near future and would benefit from a forward orientated league)
Magnus Bradbury (as above)
D‘arcy Rae (as above)
Jade Te Rure (his running style would suit Scottish)
and James Eddie (who has been out injured and out of favour for some time)
Junior Bulumakau (hasn't played a game for ages and needs some solid time)

I would agree on most of these players.

Hugh Blake, I think we will see playing more and more for Glasgow now, especially in the international window, he may even make the international squad, so I doubt he will be coming. Junior as well will be playing when Hoggy and Seymour are away. James Eddie I think was only really kept on for the WC and I think may well be let go at the end of this season.

Yeah I expect they will. Once the 6Nations over it may make more sense for them to keep playing (injury depending) somewhere rather than warming the bench. But yeah, no point those two guys heading down now.

Actually it may make sense for James Eddie to make the move permanently. He's 30 now, probably won't get a lot of offers from the Aviva/Top14, could impart a lot of wisdom on the Exiles and extend his career. He's about the same level as Jim Thompson was (Scotland A/7's) and he flourished at Scottish.

by funnyExiledScot Tue 12 Jan 2016, 2:30 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:So the main thing I've learned from everyone's advice is that everyone is different, and one person's heaven might be another person's hell!

Thanks though - I'm sure I'll be in touch with individuals once a decision has been made. Or at least, the decision is made for me...

This is certainly true.

by EWT Spoons Tue 12 Jan 2016, 2:44 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:So the main thing I've learned from everyone's advice is that everyone is different, and one person's heaven might be another person's hell!

Thanks though - I'm sure I'll be in touch with individuals once a decision has been made. Or at least, the decision is made for me...

This is certainly true.

Good point, why are we wasting our pearls of wisdom on someone who will have no say in the matter. Get your Mrs (to be) on here so we can share our insights with the organ grinder (unfortunate turn of phrase) rather than the monkey. thumbsup

by **RDW** Tue 12 Jan 2016, 3:00 pm

EWT Spoons wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:So the main thing I've learned from everyone's advice is that everyone is different, and one person's heaven might be another person's hell!

Thanks though - I'm sure I'll be in touch with individuals once a decision has been made. Or at least, the decision is made for me...

This is certainly true.

Good point, why are we wasting our pearls of wisdom on someone who will have no say in the matter. Get your Mrs (to be) on here so we can share our insights with the organ grinder (unfortunate turn of phrase) rather than the monkey.

Well she wants me to have a V2 forum ban on our wedding day. Now I am all for being reasonable but that's taking it too far!

by funnyExiledScot Tue 12 Jan 2016, 3:16 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
EWT Spoons wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:So the main thing I've learned from everyone's advice is that everyone is different, and one person's heaven might be another person's hell!

Thanks though - I'm sure I'll be in touch with individuals once a decision has been made. Or at least, the decision is made for me...

This is certainly true.

Good point, why are we wasting our pearls of wisdom on someone who will have no say in the matter. Get your Mrs (to be) on here so we can share our insights with the organ grinder (unfortunate turn of phrase) rather than the monkey.

Well she wants me to have a V2 forum ban on our wedding day. Now I am all for being reasonable but that's taking it too far!

But how will Jimbo receive his live wedding updates??

by jimbopip Tue 12 Jan 2016, 8:02 pm

Guys, you do know that Schiz keeps PM-ing me about his new favourite movie.....

The Wedding Crashers.

Bru on the other hand has been managing his disappointment at not being invited by watching by watching Game Of Thrones' Red Wedding on a loop.

Me, I wouldn't go if you paid me. Not now that I know Andries "Man Versus Pies" Strauss is doing the catering (and getting a bulk discount from Greggs).

RDW, if it turns out that Glasgow-Racing has to be moved from Scotstoun (and an underwater pitch explains why Schlong and Batman are two of our fastest players) then why don't you catch up with Bru, Schiz and the rest of us for a pre-match cocktail and some marital guidance? Apparently Bru will be an expert on all things amorous by then.

by **BigGee** Thu 14 Jan 2016, 12:53 pm

Nathan Brombys on the BBC website saying that Glasgow very close to agreeing to get a synthetic pitch down at Scotstoun. They just need to work out where to send the hammer and javelin chuckers. The field next door seems as good as anywhere.

This is long overdue and hopefully it will be sorted fo next season. The pitch is definitely holding Glasgow back.

by poddy89 Fri 15 Jan 2016, 6:29 pm

I was just on the transfer thread and there are rumours of matt scot and tom brown moving too glaws next season,

are there contract up at Edinburgh?

not sure who would step in to fill there places if they did move on,

by **RDW** Fri 15 Jan 2016, 6:45 pm

poddy89 wrote:I was just on the transfer thread and there are rumours of matt scot and tom brown moving too glaws next season,

are there contract up at Edinburgh?

not sure who would step in to fill there places if they did move on,

Both contracts are up.

I'd be pretty gutted if they did leave! Both Edinburgh boys through and through. Not sure glaws are that much of a step up from a playing point of view, but extra money and the club atmosphere must be appealing.

We're fairly well stocked with wingers but Scott would be a huge blow - we'd need to sign a quality replacement (I.e. not Strauss).

by poddy89 Fri 15 Jan 2016, 8:07 pm

I have thought that Scott might have been worth moving on in the past but has recently been finding some form and with the backs around him showing a bit of promise he could do very well where he is. And I think your right would have to sign a replacement to step up if he did leave

Agree on wingers and wouldn't hurt to have brown down getting game time in the premiership, glaws might be alright for him,

I also saw they say Steve macol or something along that lines is leaving glaws, is he the scottish qualified one? I can't quite remember but if it is, is he any good?

by **RDW** Fri 15 Jan 2016, 8:21 pm

He is and showed early promise but it doesn't bode well that he's been let go.

He's a big strong running 15 though and I think he should be given a 2nd chance at Edinburgh.

by MacKnocked-on Fri 15 Jan 2016, 8:40 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
poddy89 wrote:I was just on the transfer thread and there are rumours of matt scot and tom brown moving too glaws next season,

are there contract up at Edinburgh?

not sure who would step in to fill there places if they did move on,

Both contracts are up.

I'd be pretty gutted if they did leave! Both Edinburgh boys through and through. Not sure glaws are that much of a step up from a playing point of view, but extra money and the club atmosphere must be appealing.

We're fairly well stocked with wingers but Scott would be a huge blow - we'd need to sign a quality replacement (I.e. not Strauss).

Well clearly RDW next season Burleigh will move out to 12 to replace Scott and a rejuvenated Te Rure will make the 10 shirt his own....
However, should that scenario not come to pass then Edinburgh should certainly focus on signing a SQ centre; perhaps Huw Jones from the Stormers, Johnny Williams from LI (think somebody on these forums said he was SQ?) or perhaps somebody from left field such as Joe Wardle the Scotland RL centre?
As for replacing Brown, how about Junior from Glasgow? Potentially excellent SQ player not getting any game time at present.

by **RDW** Fri 15 Jan 2016, 10:05 pm

Burleigh is certainly a like for like replacement at 12 in terms of quality, but there would then be a vast chasm to our resources at 10.

I don't know what's going on with Tonks this season but he's not been very good. The least said about Te Rure the better!

Williams is SQ but he's also WQ and EQ I think! I suspect he's going to find himself in demand.

by **BigGee** Fri 15 Jan 2016, 10:40 pm

Unfortunately for you Edinburgh fans, I think you may have to resign yourselves to losing Matt Scott. With so many top players out of contract who will all be looking for better deals, something is going to have to give. If Edinburgh are going to mortgage the stadium for any one player it needs to be Nel, not Matt Scott. He is the more important player to the clubs future. Edinburgh also need a FH, which Burleigh, decent stand in that he is proving to be, is not and Tonks seems to have gone over the edge of the cliff!

Matt Scott may feel as well that he needs to cash in. He has had a few near career ending injuries and perhaps knows he needs to make the most out of his career. He may feel he needs a change as well, he has put a few good years into Edinburgh and Gloucester are a potentially massive club that have underperformed a bit in the past few years.

Tom Brown may also grab the chance of a move and the chance to really show what he can do. He may feel that he has never really had a fair chance of a decent run at Edinburgh. I have always rated him and would have him in the Scotland squad ahead of Fife any day.

It is the same old story for Scottish rugby I'm afraid. Some of our better players will always have to move on to let the next generation come through.

by CraigS1874 Fri 15 Jan 2016, 10:46 pm

BigGee wrote:Unfortunately for you Edinburgh fans, I think you may have to resign yourselves to losing Matt Scott. With so many top players out of contract who will all be looking for better deals, something is going to have to give. If Edinburgh are going to mortgage the stadium for any one player it needs to be Nel, not Matt Scott. He is the more important player to the clubs future. Edinburgh also need a FH, which Burleigh, decent stand in that he is proving to be, is not and Tonks seems to have gone over the edge of the cliff!

Matt Scott may feel as well that he needs to cash in. He has had a few near career ending injuries and perhaps knows he needs to make the most out of his career. He may feel he needs a change as well, he has put a few good years into Edinburgh and Gloucester are a potentially massive club that have underperformed a bit in the past few years.

Tom Brown may also grab the chance of a move and the chance to really show what he can do. He may feel that he has never really had a fair chance of a decent run at Edinburgh. I have always rated him and would have him in the Scotland squad ahead of Fife any day.

It is the same old story for Scottish rugby I'm afraid. Some of our better players will always have to move on to let the next generation come through.

Yeah Matt has said he will cash in when the opportunity arises, think he will do well but will he be picked ahead of 36? Not so sure Tom will be a success.
Is Burleigh not also out of contract this summer ?

by **RDW** Fri 15 Jan 2016, 10:48 pm

The problem is we don't have the next generation coming through at 12, so we'd have to find someone (hopefully SQ) from outside of Scotland.

And that's a fair point - there's no guarantee Burleigh is staying either!

by **BigGee** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 9:23 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:The problem is we don't have the next generation coming through at 12, so we'd have to find someone (hopefully SQ) from outside of Scotland.

And that's a fair point - there's no guarantee Burleigh is staying either!

I think Burleigh will stay. He is a year off becoming SQ and that must be some incentive. He is still young enough to pick up a few caps and potentially go to the next WC.

by CraigS1874 Sat 16 Jan 2016, 11:06 am

Gloucester have confirmed scott has signed on Twitter, bad news but he is replaceable. Huw Jones or Duncan Taylor please solly !

by madmaccas Sat 16 Jan 2016, 11:10 am

Great article on the London Scottish partnership.

Lynch is a good and canny man, best of all this is the first time he's publicly confirmed that the PRO12 is his long term aim.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-3402116/London-Scottish-s-Perth-born-chief-sees-bright-future-ahead-club-country.html

by madmaccas Sat 16 Jan 2016, 11:24 am

BigGee wrote:
I think Burleigh will stay. He is a year off becoming SQ and that must be some incentive. He is still young enough to pick up a few caps and potentially go to the next WC.

Problem is, at that point he'll be 30. I can't see Cotter picking him now as anything beyond a stopgap.

by **BigGee** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 11:43 am

madmaccas wrote:
BigGee wrote:
I think Burleigh will stay. He is a year off becoming SQ and that must be some incentive. He is still young enough to pick up a few caps and potentially go to the next WC.

Problem is, at that point he'll be 30. I can't see Cotter picking him now as anything beyond a stopgap.

30 is not totally over the hill and I don't see that as a barrier to being picked if he is good enough, We are not short of good centres though, so he won't walk in. Still I imagine he would want to put himself in the frame.

by **RDW** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 12:03 pm

I don't see Scotland selection being top of Burleigh's radar - I can see him moving if the money comes in elsewhere.

If both Scott and Burleigh leave then we really are in trouble.

I'm really disappointed about Scott - we could have built the backline around him and made him a real key part of the team.

I only hope we get an advantage in the from a Scotland PoV - I.e. he becomes a better player for Scotland!

by **BigGee** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 12:14 pm

Scott was probably already on a fairly decent wedge, he was a full international around his last contract renewal and was being touted as a potential lion. He would have been one of Edinburgh's higher earners and that might free up some cash to keep some of the others.

Edinburgh are a club on the up and will be a more attractive prospect to sign on for than they were a few years ago. I guess we will have to see how it all pans out but they were always going to lose one or two.

by **RDW** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 12:18 pm

I can see us having the money but not being able to attract high calibre players - and I think experienced at SR level should be the minimum.

You say we're beckoning more of an attractive team but as a 'club' we're not appealing - tiny number of fans playing in a soulless empty stadium.

What we can offer for SQ players though is a much quicker route to international honours. So we've really got to target SQ players in SR on my opinion.

I'd like to take a punt on that young London Irish centre too!

by **BigGee** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 12:27 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:

I'd like to take a punt on that young London Irish centre too!

I imagine a few people have got their eye on him. I guess it will depend on where he sees his best chance of international rugby. I hope someone from the SRU is in his ear pointing out the virtues of a career in Blue!

by MacKnocked-on Sat 16 Jan 2016, 12:31 pm

BigGee wrote:
madmaccas wrote:
BigGee wrote:
I think Burleigh will stay. He is a year off becoming SQ and that must be some incentive. He is still young enough to pick up a few caps and potentially go to the next WC.

Problem is, at that point he'll be 30. I can't see Cotter picking him now as anything beyond a stopgap.

30 is not totally over the hill and I don't see that as a barrier to being picked if he is good enough, We are not short of good centres though, so he won't walk in. Still I imagine he would want to put himself in the frame.

Not when you consider The Sun reporting that Cotter is keen to pick a 35 year old stand off....

by **RDW** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 12:34 pm

BigGee wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:

I'd like to take a punt on that young London Irish centre too!

I imagine a few people have got their eye on him. I guess it will depend on where he sees his best chance of international rugby. I hope someone from the SRU is in phis ear pointing out the virtues of a career in Blue!

Absolutely. One bargaining chip we may have is that with Matt Scott gone he'll have a good chance of regular game time at 12, whereas I'm led to believe he's 2nd or 3rd choice at Irish just now.

He's young and very raw but has made a good impression so far.

by MacKnocked-on Sat 16 Jan 2016, 12:38 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
BigGee wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:

I'd like to take a punt on that young London Irish centre too!

I imagine a few people have got their eye on him. I guess it will depend on where he sees his best chance of international rugby. I hope someone from the SRU is in phis ear pointing out the virtues of a career in Blue!

Absolutely. One bargaining chip we may have is that with Matt Scott gone he'll have a good chance of regular game time at 12, whereas I'm led to believe he's 2nd or 3rd choice at Irish just now.

He's young and very raw but has made a good impression so far.

I read an article online that had Sean Maitland singing his praises and describing him as one to watch, perhaps Sean and Blair Cowan have been having a word.

by **BigGee** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 12:46 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:

Absolutely. One bargaining chip we may have is that with Matt Scott gone he'll have a good chance of regular game time at 12, whereas I'm led to believe he's 2nd or 3rd choice at Irish just now.

He's young and very raw but has made a good impression so far.

He may have been 2nd or 3rd choice at the start of the season but he is starting every game now. I have watched a few LI games recently and he is a very good player. The only thing they need to watch is that at 19 they don't over play him.

by MacKnocked-on Sat 16 Jan 2016, 12:51 pm

BigGee wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:

Absolutely. One bargaining chip we may have is that with Matt Scott gone he'll have a good chance of regular game time at 12, whereas I'm led to believe he's 2nd or 3rd choice at Irish just now.

He's young and very raw but has made a good impression so far.

He may have been 2nd or 3rd choice at the start of the season but he is starting every game now. I have watched a few LI games recently and he is a very good player. The only thing they need to watch is that at 19 they don't over play him.

I guess that probably he is far more likely to choose England (already in their U20 squad) or even Wales than opt for Scotland but you never know, maybe Cotter would even have to name him in the squad next week if we wanted him to commit to us.

by **RDW** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 1:28 pm

This is again the problem with not having an A team - we could have capped him next month.

I'm I right in thinking the Welsh under 20s team is their nominated 2nd team? So if he plays for them he's WQ?

by **BigGee** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 1:39 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:This is again the problem with not having an A team - we could have capped him next month.

I'm I right in thinking the Welsh under 20s team is their nominated 2nd team? So if he plays for them he's WQ?

Correct, but he has been playing age grade for England recently, though he was with Wales at U16. I would be surprised if LI release him at the moment, he is very important to them.

by **BigGee** Sat 16 Jan 2016, 1:42 pm

On another theme, just watching Bordeaux v Exeter. The long forgotten Byron McGuigan has just made a try and scored one for the Chiefs. Moray Low is helping to demolish their scrum to. Still losing though, but a long way to go.

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