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Post by red_stag Thu 01 Sep 2011, 3:55 pm

Munster Team to play Newport Dragons:

01 Marcus Horan
02 Mike Sherry
03 Stephen Archer
04 Billy Holland
05 Mick O'Driscoll
06 Peter O'Mahony
07 Niall Ronan
08 James Coughlan
09 Peter Stringer
10 Ian Keatley
11 Denis Hurley
12 Lifeimi Mafi
13 Danny Barnes
14 Doug Howlett
15 Johne Murphy

16 Damien Varley, 17 Wian du Preez, 18 John Hayes, 19 Dave Foley, 20 Tommy O'Donnell, 21 Tomas O'Leary, 22, Scott Deasy, 23 Simon Zebo

Have to say very happy with that team. Ian Nagle misses out through injury. Should be fit by next game.
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Post by Rava Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:05 pm

A strong looking lineup Stag. I expect Munster to roll on much like last year in the League.
The backs will be hard to contain and they retain a reasonable amount of experience in the pack. Bench doesn't look bad either.

Who's the guy Hayes? Academy player? Wink
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Post by red_stag Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:07 pm

Delighted to see Sherry and O'Mahony get starts. Think the pair of them are great.
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Post by rodders Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:10 pm

That just looks like the Munster 1st XV to me? Isn't there a WC on?..... Whistle
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Post by greybeard Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:10 pm

I think Varley will be dangerous once he improves his lineouts. I've seen him throw a few crooked darts and when that creeps in a hooker can become effected by it. Apart from that I rate him as a very talented hooker. Surprised he's not starting.

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Post by Thomond Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:11 pm

I'm disappointed new DOC isn't involved,I have been impresses with what I have seen of him

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:12 pm

Really glad Archer is starting, same with Keatley at 10 really want those two players to do well for you this year and Jones when he gets back too

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Post by red_stag Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:22 pm

roddersm wrote:That just looks like the Munster 1st XV to me?

It is except for: Jerry Flannery, BJ Botha, Paul O'Connell, Donncha O'Callaghan, Donnacha Ryan, David Wallace, Denis Leamy, Connor Murray, Ronan O'Gara, Keith Earls and Felix Jones.

I'd say apart from that then yea its probably our 1st XV Smile
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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:27 pm

Rava wrote:A strong looking lineup Stag.

Hmmm. Looking down the list, at least half that squad are either past it or not good enough. Must be my Leinster bias kicking in. Or perhaps I am a subconscious WUM. Very Happy

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Post by Guest Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:27 pm

Just as well call this Munster game discussion. We won't get a word in edgeways Wink.


Steffan Jones,
Adam Hughes,
Tom Riley,
Ashley Smith,
Mike Poole,
Jason Tovey,
Joe Bedford,
Phil Price,
Tom Willis,
Ben Castle,
Adam Jones,
Rob Sidoli,
Andrew Coombs,
Gavin Thomas,
Tom Brown.

Replacements: N Williams, D Way, R Buckley, J Groves, H Ellis, W Evans, M Thomas, P Leach.

Dragons win by 74 points

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Post by red_stag Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:29 pm

Whats Toveys best position?
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Post by Thomond Thu 01 Sep 2011, 4:31 pm

Rev,no one cares enough about the Dragons to post about them.

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Post by Guest Thu 01 Sep 2011, 5:11 pm

Stag, definitely 10 for Tovey. A bit slow for 15 IMO, but has good vision, a great kicking game from hand an his place kicking is getting back to where it was before last season (he changed his style at the start of last season for distance, but it went belly up so he changed back and his % went back up.

Looking forward to seeing the wing Mike Poole for the dragons: a former cage fighter and prolific try scorer in the Welsh Prem with Newport he's a big lump who can also create and offload, which helps.

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Post by Guest Thu 01 Sep 2011, 5:16 pm

"Looking forward to seeing the wing Mike Poole for the dragons: a former cage fighter and prolific try scorer in the Welsh Prem with Newport he's a big lump who can also create and offload, which helps."

Plus he's a pretty big hitter and is going to sit Howlett right down Wink

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Post by GavinDragon Fri 02 Sep 2011, 8:17 am

id be happy with a losing bonus point and no injuries!

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Post by BlueMuff Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:27 am

Am hoping for a big season from Archer. Its a strong front row and I expect us to scrummage well.

Strong 11 to 15 also with potentially our best 12 and 13 combo.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:40 am

Good to see Thomas on the bench after two nasty injuries and I like Coombes as well.

Where is Lewis Evans, thought he would have been involved. Hope Ellis can come through this season as we are likely to be without Toby for 6 nations as well.

What's happened to Gus as well seems to have dropped quite way down order at mo.

Hope Smith can have an injury free season as well as we look far more suspect when he's not there.
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Post by red_stag Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:45 am

Whats Dragons new boss like?
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Post by bedfordwelsh Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:53 am

Excellent red,

I must admit that I was bit miffed whe nhe was first appointed as would rather have seen Jingsley Jones go in there but Edwards really does seem to have instilled a great team spirit down there and the boys really play for each other.

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Post by GavinDragon Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:58 am

encourages the team to play heads up rugby, which usually means running any turnover ball which is good to watch, i just hope we dont follow the same pattern that wales did in the aftermath of the 05GS playing brilliant offloading rugby all the time, being sussed out and trying to do it before weve gone forward and created space out wide,

but so far completely happy with edwards-this season will be a big test of his coaching abilities

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Post by bedfordwelsh Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:02 am

Still need a few big (physically as opposed to in name) players in especially at T/Head and 2nd row.

Couple of Russians maybe.
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Post by GavinDragon Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:04 am

by all acounts adam jones has really been putting his hand up in pre season games, maybe the 2nds we got are good enough for now....agree on tight head tho!

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Post by red_stag Fri 02 Sep 2011, 12:00 pm

Tomas O'Leary injured. Peter Stringer to start with Duncan Williams as backup.
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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Fri 02 Sep 2011, 12:45 pm

red_stag wrote:Tomas O'Leary depressed. Peter Stringer to start with Duncan Williams as backup.
Fixt.

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Post by valjester Fri 02 Sep 2011, 12:47 pm

Interesting that POM is captain for this, must be expecting a big season from him if he has been given the captaincy over o'driscoll. I hope he has learned how to talk to refs because he seemed to talk himself into trouble when he played for munster last year. Hope that sherry comes good for Ireland and munster's sake.

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Post by red_stag Fri 02 Sep 2011, 12:48 pm

I'm a big fan of O'Mahony
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Post by Notch Fri 02 Sep 2011, 12:54 pm

bedfordwelsh wrote:Still need a few big (physically as opposed to in name) players in especially at T/Head and 2nd row.

Couple of Russians maybe.

Have you actually seen Russias scrum? I mean, even after Newport-Gwent Dragons thrashed them 40-12 you still think because they are russian they must all spit nails and breathe fire?
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri 02 Sep 2011, 1:07 pm

Risca Rev wrote:Dragons win by 74 points

That genuinely made me Laugh

I'd say Munster will start as favourites but we can take them.

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Post by Cari Fri 02 Sep 2011, 1:38 pm

red_stag wrote:Tomas O'Leary injured. Peter Stringer to start with Duncan Williams as backup.

Aye, he's got back trouble again...
http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/rugby/2011/0902/1224303395891.html

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Post by Shifty Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:17 pm

Notch wrote:Have you actually seen Russias scrum? I mean, even after Newport-Gwent Dragons thrashed them 40-12 you still think because they are russian they must all spit nails and breathe fire?

I have seen the Russian scrum twice, when I went to the games against the Dragons and Ospreys, it isnt that bad actually, and Popov the loose head is pretty useful. thumbsup
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Sat 03 Sep 2011, 12:53 pm

He was a pretty good swimmer too from what I remember...

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Post by Thomond Sat 03 Sep 2011, 12:55 pm

Looking forward to heading down to the game. Should be a good one. A double header of sorts,soccer at Turner's Cross at 5 o'clock and Munster at 7.45. The stadiums are only 5 minutes apart. Anyone heading to Musgrave,I would encourage to got to the soccer game,particularly as it's Cork v Limerick.

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Post by MBTGOG Sat 03 Sep 2011, 2:11 pm

Delighted the game is on S4C so I can watch it.


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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:14 pm

Brilliant stuff from Johne Murphy for the first try, well finished by Danny Barnes.

http://www.s4c.co.uk/clic/e_live.shtml

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Post by rodders Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:15 pm

Wow awesome try!
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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:18 pm

Nearly another brilliant run from Johne Murphy but a foot just in touch.

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Post by MBTGOG Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:26 pm

Second try was fantastic!

First one just as good.


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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:28 pm

Munster 17 - 6 Dragons at half time.

Coughlan has been excellent for me.

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Post by Cymroglan Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:28 pm

Second half should be interesting.

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Post by Cari Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:30 pm

Two excellent tries from Munster...they'll be aiming for a bonus point win. Dragons will need to get a score in first during the second half. Hopefully they can get something together.

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:40 pm

Great tries from Munster. We need to compete better at the breakdown. Munster are slowing it down well legally just by being very competitive in defence, whereas the dragons are getting bounced out of the ruck when we try to compete on munster ball. This is giving munster great quick ball and a bit of a broken defensive line ahead of them when they attack, while we're ending up a bit static in attack with out backs receiving the ball stood still with a brick wall in front of them.

So far munster are doing a typical munster on us, even without their Irish internationals.

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Post by MBTGOG Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:43 pm

Ben Castle in the bin. Awful start to the second period for the Dragons.


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Post by Cari Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:43 pm

Uh-oh not a good start for the Dragons. Their no.3 has been binned, but at least (for them) Keatley misses the penalty.

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 03 Sep 2011, 8:54 pm

Dragons slipping tackles, Riley is a liability in mid field. Munster getting away with murder in the rucks, how many penalties are they getting away with before yellow?.

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Post by Shifty Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:02 pm

If the ref Italian or French?
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Post by MBTGOG Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:03 pm

Italian.


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Post by Shifty Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:05 pm

Ah ok thanks, while I'm here did anyone manage to see the Newport V Llanelli game today? I was planning to go up but was too shattered to be honest.
How is the new stand?
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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:09 pm

Maybe an opportunity for Dragons going into last quarter with a man advantage, Munster look flat now.

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Post by MBTGOG Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:13 pm

Thought that yellow was completely the wrong decision. The player on the ground was completely immaterial as he wasn't impeding the ball.


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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 03 Sep 2011, 9:15 pm

Munster two men down. Varley gone.

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