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Post by Mercurio Sat 24 Sep 2011, 10:19 pm

I've started this thread because I think a lot of you folk are missing out on this wonderful union.

A few years ago, a mate told me that when you see the Spanish drinking red wine in the afternoons, they're not drinking just red wine. They've mixed it with cola.

I found it hard to believe and dismissed it; until a year later, I remembered him saying this so thought I'd give it a go on some rough rouge I had. He was right and I've been supping it for the last two years.

I'm not saying waste your best claret on it, but if you have some stuff that goes down like sandpaper, mix it 1/3rd wine to 2/3rd coke (especially Pepsi Max) and see what you think.

I GUARANTEE you will enjoy it.


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Post by oldparwin Sat 24 Sep 2011, 10:34 pm

blended whisky with a drop cola is better

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Post by Mercurio Sat 24 Sep 2011, 10:41 pm

oldparwin wrote:blended whisky with a drop cola is better
If you want to waste your blended whiskey by mixing it with cola, oldparwin, then fill your boots Hug

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Post by MustPuttBetter Sat 24 Sep 2011, 10:47 pm

I've tried red wine with a touch of lemonade but think I'll leave the coke to go with the JD !
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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 24 Sep 2011, 10:58 pm

No need to go crazy with these Mediterranean diets.
Sounds ghastly and nothing will tempt me to try it.

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Post by Mercurio Sat 24 Sep 2011, 11:10 pm

MPB and Kwini: Trust me, guys, trust me.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 24 Sep 2011, 11:14 pm

Sorry Mercurio, Haven't drunk any sort of Cola for thirty years, but have loved almost every drop of (carefully chosen) red wine. RedWine

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Post by Mercurio Sat 24 Sep 2011, 11:35 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Sorry Mercurio, Haven't drunk any sort of Cola for thirty years, but have loved almost every drop of (carefully chosen) red wine. RedWine

As I said, kwini, don't waste your good stuff on it but if you do get a bottle of rough rouge, give it a go.

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Post by George1507 Sun 25 Sep 2011, 6:53 am

Sherry and bovril is a good mixture on cold mornings. Much beloved in half way houses on Winter Sunday mornings.

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Post by Shotrock Sun 25 Sep 2011, 12:51 pm

Morning drink - Bloody Mary

If not beer after golf - Spiked Arnold Palmer (also called a John Daly) or a Transfusion!

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Post by JAS Sun 25 Sep 2011, 3:41 pm

Just trying it now Merc...good shout...although like you say I wouldn't do it with a best claret...or my personal favourite red, Amarone.

Good bbq tipple methinks Wink

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Post by oldshanker Sun 25 Sep 2011, 6:34 pm

Never tried red wine and cola (does it have to be pepsi max Merc?)

I join OPW on adding scotch to cola and I also will boil a ham in cola - that's worth trying!

You're not a cheap date then JAS! But you do have good taste.

Sherry and Bovril - vomit Not in my fourball!! I'll stick with my flask of single malt (any one would do, but Glenfarclas by choice). Smile
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Post by JAS Sun 25 Sep 2011, 6:47 pm

lol...no I don't do cheap dates OS, usually I'm buying. My red wine tastes are wide and varied, as I said, love my Amarone (and for that matter Barolo) but right across the spectrum I also love the light fruitiness of NZ Pinot Noirs.

Oh and by the way, I find a mature McCallan as the ideal hip flask tipple!!

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Post by drive4show Sun 25 Sep 2011, 7:11 pm

Shot

I've heard of this Arnold Palmer drink, isn't it iced tea with something in it? Someone I played with in the States last year had one post round and said it was very refreshing.

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Post by MustPuttBetter Sun 25 Sep 2011, 7:14 pm

JAS good shout. I too am partial to a glass of amarone, or if feeling poor, it's lesser brother valpolicella
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Post by Davie Sun 25 Sep 2011, 7:29 pm

There is a (non-alcoholic) drink very popular at my club - and I've seen it at other golf clubs too but never anywhere outside of a golf club

Called either "rock shandy" or a "gunners" - it's ginger beer and lemonade(?) with a dash of angosturas bitters.

Is this a drink particular to golfers only?

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Post by JAS Sun 25 Sep 2011, 7:34 pm

D4S the AP is Iced tea with lemonade, very refreshing (it comes in cans in the States). I almost peed myself when one of my playing partners at Spyglass asked for a John Daly. The trolley dolly asks "what's that?" " "Oh its an Arnold Palmer with a Jack Daniels in it"....Briliant Wink

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Post by MustPuttBetter Sun 25 Sep 2011, 8:24 pm

Davie, I used to work behind a bar at a golf club and had people asking for gunners all the time.
Never seen it ordered outside of a golf club either. Weird!
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Post by oldshanker Sun 25 Sep 2011, 9:05 pm

First time I came across a gunners, it was at a golf club. D4S ordered it, SJ, NST and myself all tried it afterwards. I have not had another one, but if I want a really refeshing post round drink, I have a pint of hand pulled bitter, drink a third and then top up with ginger beer.

Barolo is a fair shout JAS, I am however a francophile when it comes to wine. Can't really afford the clarets that are worth drinking, so tend to stick with the burgundies and their like. Gevrey Chambertin, Fleurie, Volnay are all of a like pricewise to Amerone and if looking for something a tad cheaper, then 'every little helps' had a wonderful Cotes de Ventoux ' La Tour de Marrenon' on half price. Oh and McCallan works for me to.
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Post by JAS Sun 25 Sep 2011, 9:29 pm

Ooh nice OS...to me Moulin-a-Vent is a personal favourite of mine of the BV family. Going further south I love a good Chateauneuf du Pape.

I feel a red wine thread coming...lol

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Post by navyblueshorts Mon 26 Sep 2011, 8:44 am

Red wine and coke? Interesting. Will give it a try on the next slightly dodgy bottle of red.

Re. amarone and valpolicella, try a valpolicella ripasso if you see one. Valpolicella given some time with the semi-dried grapes used for amarone. Not bad.
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Post by raycastleunited Thu 29 Sep 2011, 3:08 pm

Red wine + coke = calimocho. It's what Spanish kids used to drink, the equivalent of thunderbird or bacardi breezer. You won't find people adding coke to a nice rioja, but then a 1 euro tetrapak of wine needs something to make it bearable.

The other classic is red wine + soda water or lemonade = tinto de verano. Again a bit of a starter drink as it makes the wine sweet and fizzy, about as sophisticated as woodpecker cider.

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Post by NedB-H Thu 29 Sep 2011, 5:08 pm

oldshanker wrote: if I want a really refeshing post round drink, I have a pint of hand pulled bitter, drink a third and then top up with ginger beer.
Have to say that sounds disgusting!

If people really want a bad night, Mount Gay Rum and Smirnoff Ice go well together...

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Post by Davie Thu 29 Sep 2011, 7:41 pm

oldshanker wrote: if I want a really refeshing post round drink, I have a pint of hand pulled bitter, drink a third and then top up with ginger beer.

Isn't that the original definition of a shandy? Lemonade came much later

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Post by McLaren Thu 29 Sep 2011, 8:23 pm

I thought red wine and coke was Jesus juice?

I hope you guys are not using it for that purpose?

Have to say I am with kwini here, no need to waste a good red or a bad one come to think of it.

On another coke related thought, why does coke from a bottle taste better than coke from a can? Is it just mental or is there a taste difference?

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Post by JohnnyH Thu 29 Sep 2011, 9:21 pm

Davie wrote:
oldshanker wrote: if I want a really refeshing post round drink, I have a pint of hand pulled bitter, drink a third and then top up with ginger beer.

Isn't that the original definition of a shandy? Lemonade came much later


The Original shandy, which btw is my favourite tipple, apart from a small Glenfidditch, is Lager and Coke....Try it fellas....its really good!

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Post by super_realist Thu 29 Sep 2011, 9:28 pm

A half and half mix of Coke and Fanta is surprisingly good. Fairly popular in Austria if I remember.

I've also discovered a Hoegaarden/Traditional Lemonade Shandy to be good too.

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Post by Noshankingtonite Thu 29 Sep 2011, 9:42 pm

oldshanker wrote:First time I came across a gunners, it was at a golf club. D4S ordered it, SJ, NST and myself all tried it afterwards. I have not had another one, but if I want a really refeshing post round drink, I have a pint of hand pulled bitter, drink a third and then top up with ginger beer.

Barolo is a fair shout JAS, I am however a francophile when it comes to wine. Can't really afford the clarets that are worth drinking, so tend to stick with the burgundies and their like. Gevrey Chambertin, Fleurie, Volnay are all of a like pricewise to Amerone and if looking for something a tad cheaper, then 'every little helps' had a wonderful Cotes de Ventoux ' La Tour de Marrenon' on half price. Oh and McCallan works for me to.

I remember well that Gunners which was extremely useful for washing down the 'heart attack' burger I ordered cos I was absolutely Hank Marvin from having travelled overnight without breakfast to make the meet whilst you lot scoffed bacon butties! Mind you, I was somewhat distracted during the course of our culinary delights by the woman who served us with absolutely enormous chebs... certainly was the 'hostess with the mostest'
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Post by turnip Fri 30 Sep 2011, 12:48 pm

Gunners seems to come in various forms depending on the club - all with ginger beer and angustura but some with lemonade, some with soda and some with ginger ale (what's the difference with ginger beer?!) and occasionally a dash of lime (helps bump the price up I guess).
Personally love it with lemonade on a hot summer's day post round.

Careful how many you have though Davie as the angustura is 40% proof so not quite non-alcoholic.

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Post by Mercurio Fri 30 Sep 2011, 1:36 pm

Until earlier this year, Angostura Bitters were free of excise duties, just in case you've ever wondered why it was so cheap in supermarkets.

I make my owner Gunner at home, but it never tastes as good as it does post-round at the club.

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