Ulster return to Aironi in search of Five Points - Sat 17th December, Stadio Brianteo, Monza (kick off 1.30pm GMT)

by Rava Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:26 pm

First topic message reminder :

Ulster Coach Brian McLaughlin has only made one change in the starting lineup, bringing back Tom Court with Paddy McAllister moving to the bench. Nevin Spence has been named having been passed fit. Adam D'Arcy retains his place at full back with Terblanche on the bench.

Elsewhere in the Pool, Clermont defeated Leicester at the Stade Marcel Michelin 30-12 on Sunday with no bonus points scored, making Pool 4 the tightest in the tournament at this stage with just 2 points separating the top three teams.

Ulster Match Day Squad to face Aironi, Saturday 17th December, Stadio Brianteo, Monza (kick-off 1.30pm GMT)
(15-9): A D'Arcy; A Trimble, D Cave, N Spence, C Gilroy; I Humphreys, R Pienaar;
(1-8): T Court, R Best, J Afoa, J Muller (capt), D Tuohy, S Ferris, C Henry, P Wannenburg;
Replacements (16-23): N Brady, P McAllister, A Macklin, T Barker, R Diack, P Marshall, P Jackson, S Terblanche

The match is televised live on Sky Sports behind the red button.

by geoff998rugby Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:15 pm

Declan Fitzpatrick Hug

by MrsP Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:20 pm

He wasn't even in the squad for Saturday.

I hope they have a lovely day!

Bubbly

by **rodders** Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:20 pm

geoff998rugby wrote:Declan Fitzpatrick

He's marrying Trimble?? ...ok I'm confused now.... Ulster return to Aironi in search of Five Points - Sat 17th December, Stadio Brianteo, Monza (kick off 1.30pm GMT) - Page 4 3754190863

Ulster return to Aironi in search of Five Points - Sat 17th December, Stadio Brianteo, Monza (kick off 1.30pm GMT) - Page 4 3754190863

by MrsP Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:26 pm

Trimble is already married, isn't he?

by Rory_Gallagher Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:27 pm

He is indeed, to Anna Very Happy

they both go to my church.

by Glas a du Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:30 pm

my church

Preacher are you?

by geoff998rugby Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:30 pm

MrsP wrote:He wasn't even in the squad for Saturday.

I hope they have a lovely day!

I know but when he booked the wedding he didn't know that - I suspect the club gave him a lift anyway Very Happy

by **rodders** Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:36 pm

OK let me get this straight...Trimble is committing an act of bigamy by marrying Fitzpatrick and Rory is his preacher?.... Headscratch

by geoff998rugby Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:37 pm

Thats why the've kept it quiet Yahoo

by **rodders** Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:38 pm

Wait until the Belfast Telegraph gets wind of this!!

by Shafted Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:39 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:He is indeed, to Anna they both go to my church.

GA???

by Rory_Gallagher Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:41 pm

Shafted wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:He is indeed, to Anna they both go to my church.

GA???

Yep!

by MrsP Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:44 pm

Not the same one as Paul Marshall then?

by Rory_Gallagher Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:45 pm

roddersm wrote:OK let me get this straight...Trimble is committing an act of bigamy by marrying Fitzpatrick and Rory is his preacher?....

"You may now kiss the.. bride"

kiss

by **rodders** Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:47 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
roddersm wrote:OK let me get this straight...Trimble is committing an act of bigamy by marrying Fitzpatrick and Rory is his preacher?....

"You may now kiss the.. bride"

Which one is the bride! Shocked

.......

by Rory_Gallagher Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:48 pm

I was thinking Declan!

by Rory_Gallagher Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:48 pm

MrsP wrote:Not the same one as Paul Marshall then?

Nope, not sure where he goes.

by MrsP Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:51 pm

I know where he goes I just thought Andrew T went there too for some reason.

by **rodders** Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:58 pm

... er ok my congratulations to whoever married who... guinness

..

Back to the rugby....cough cough....Geoff what do you think the selection policy will be for the next couple of games?

Is anyone heading down to the Leinster game?

by Standulstermen Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:00 pm

Anyone know anything of this young Peter Nelson lad. I know he is highly thought of in that he benched for the first team against Glasgow at the start of the season and he is only out of school. Seems to be scoring trys for fun for the ravens and is also a kicker.

Could he be the long term answer to 15?

Will we see him against Leinster following on from Rodders point. Im headin down on boxing day. Really looking forward to it although i expect a sound beating

by Rory_Gallagher Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:14 pm

I have no idea who he is really. He isn't in the academy squad, on the ulster website, apparently..

by Don Alfonso Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:19 pm

Did Nelson not play in one of the friendlies? He was in the HEC squad when Payen was injured?

by Standulstermen Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:22 pm

He was. He came on at the end of the first game of the season against Glasgow i believe. Still for someone who is apparently just out of school he seems to be getting positive reports.

by Standulstermen Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:24 pm

i see Court and Afoa made the PR team of the weekend as well.

by MrsP Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:25 pm

I have heard he is the Great Red Hope at 15.

Sounds like a very talented player and has the most eye wateringly ginger hair you have ever seen.

Even Jim Neilly would not be able to mix him up with any of the current squad!

by red_stag Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:27 pm

Is the "crisis" over?

by Standulstermen Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:30 pm

Not yet Stag but 11 trys in two games will help. I sense the Munster and Leicester fixtures will be the first time we get a chance to properly see where we stand as we will be sending a young team to Leinster. I watched the first half at the weekend and although the pack were excellent we still are looking very unsure in the backs.

by Don Alfonso Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:31 pm

Stag - no.

We are in the calm "eye" of the crisis, before we face more howling crisis-winds on the other side.

by **rodders** Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:31 pm

Stag the crisis will only end when the HEC trophy is back at Ravenhill where it belongs and the natural order of Irish rugby is restored... Ulster return to Aironi in search of Five Points - Sat 17th December, Stadio Brianteo, Monza (kick off 1.30pm GMT) - Page 4 3602195817

Ulster return to Aironi in search of Five Points - Sat 17th December, Stadio Brianteo, Monza (kick off 1.30pm GMT) - Page 4 3602195817

by geoff998rugby Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:38 pm

Nelson is indeed a very exciting prospect for 15.
I think he is a shoe in for the Academy for next year and over the next couple of years will start to get some games.

We have to definitely rest Best and Ferris for one game, possibly more.
Not so sure about Court and Trimble.
I think one of the two teams will be weaken - hopefully Leinster away as we made the mistake, last year, of making it the home game and ended up losing both.

Afoa, Muller, Pienaer and Terblanche are interesting as they have hardly played that much - they may well play both games.

I also think Marshall 9 and Pienaer 10 is being considered as a possible experiment.

Luke Marshall will get some game time somewhere - probably resting Spence as his body needs a break.

by marty2086 Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:47 pm

Leinster could be pretty strong as D'Arcy didn't start and as usual theyve good options in the front row with Healy and Cronin sitting out this weekend

On a side not what haves everyone made of Caldwell at Bath? Seen him a few times this season and hes impressed me commentators made some passing comment about him heading back to Ireland to get into the international team

by MrsP Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:53 pm

Geoff,

Do you mean that Nelson will definately get a second year in the academy?

Surely he has an Academy contract already, no?

by geoff998rugby Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:04 pm

Caldwell has signed a 2 year contract and his kids (or step kids) are just settling at school so I think that is just paper talk. He is clearly enjoying his rugby at Bath and would not leave imo.

by geoff998rugby Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:07 pm

MrsP wrote:Geoff,

Do you mean that Nelson will definately get a second year in the academy?

Surely he has an Academy contract already, no?

Yep that is what I meant Doh

I meant to imply I can see next year being his last Academy year i.e a development contract in 2013-14

by geoff998rugby Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:16 pm

There is a reasonably well grounded rumour regarding a new player for next year that would blow your heads away.

I am talking as good as they get

I need to sit down I am all of a quiver.
Sorry but given who we are talking about I cannot reveal a name at this stage.

Sorry to be such a tease but I really can't

by Rory_Gallagher Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:20 pm

Damn you Geoff!

Start guessing people Wink

by Kingshu Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:22 pm

Dan Carter oh yeah.......

by **rodders** Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:22 pm

Tommy Bowe??

by Glas a du Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:24 pm

Dan Biggar

by Rory_Gallagher Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:24 pm

Dan Carter, Richie McCaw.. the two positions they are probably looking. Back row and 10!

by Rava Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:25 pm

MrsP wrote:What is the latest on the Ferris court case?

Wasn't it due to be heard around now?

The court case has been put back until Feb/March right slap in the middle of the 6N.

by **rodders** Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:26 pm

James Downey??

by Glas a du Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:29 pm

Schalk Berger?

by Rava Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:29 pm

geoff998rugby wrote:There is a reasonably well grounded rumour regarding a new player for next year that would blow your heads away.

I am talking as good as they get

I need to sit down I am all of a quiver.
Sorry but given who we are talking about I cannot reveal a name at this stage.

Sorry to be such a tease but I really can't

You're nothing but a big tease Rolling Eyes

by Glas a du Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:30 pm

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tell us

by **rodders** Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:32 pm

Geoff can you say if it's an IQ or NIQ??

by marty2086 Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:33 pm

Glas a du wrote: tell us

I second that! furious

by Standulstermen Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:33 pm

Kaino?

by **rodders** Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:35 pm

Kaino wouldn't get in the side Stand! ....I have a hunch that its a 7 or 10?.....therefore I'll go with Pocock or Dan Parks....

by geoff998rugby Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:36 pm

I really cant but some clues:

NIQ - not Welsh !

Explains why Pienaer and Wannenberg's contracts are on hold.

Contract up next year, cousin of an ex Ulster player (seriously impressed if someone works that one out) and best of mates with a current Ulster player.

If we can find the money to resign Pienaer and signed this guy I would be in heaven.

It would have to be goodbye Wanneberg and goodbye Danielli - no question.

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