Wales vs Samoa KO 19:30 Fri 16th Nov - Match Thread/Build Up etc....

[HERSH]

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WALES V Samoa

Venue: Millennium Stadium Cardiff Date: Friday, 16 November Kick-off: 19:30 GMT

Coverage: Live on BBC One Wales & online; live on S4C; live commentary on BBC Radio Wales & online; live commentary on Radio Cymru

Seeing as no one has started a thread yet I thought I would.

Enjoy the discussion.

Leigh Halfpenny
Alex Cuthbert
Ashley Beck
Jamie Roberts
George North
Dan Biggar
Mike Phillips
Paul James
Richard Hibbard
Aaron Jarvis
Bradley Davies
Ian Evans
Ryan Jones (Capt)
Justin Tipuric
Toby Faletau

REPLACEMENTS:
Ken Owens, Gethin Jenkins, Scott Andrews, Luke Charteris, Sam Warburton, Tavis Knoyle, Rhys Priestland, Scott Williams

Samoa:
F Autagavaia (Northland)
P Perez (Eastern Province)
G Pisi (Northampton)
P Williams (Stade Francais)
D Lemi (Worcester, captain)
T Pisi (Suntory)
K Fotuali'i (Ospreys)
S Taulafo (Wasps)
O Avei (Bordeaux-Begles)
C Johnston (Toulouse)
D Leo (Perpignan)
T Paulo (North Harbour)
O Treviranus (London Irish)
M Fa'asavalu (Harlequins)
T Tuifua (Newcastle)

Replacements: T Paulo (Clermont Auvergne), V Afatia (Agen), J Johnston (Harlequins), F Lemalu (Mont de Marsan), T Fomai (Hawke's Bay), J Su'a (Tasman), J Leota (Sale), R Lilomaiava (Laulii).

[AFewTooManyKnocks]

Welsh scrum has been destroyed in the second half

[Guest]

Yep we are never said we were playing well, but the ref is god awful

[Duty281]

The Samoan scrum is dominant. Another pen, another gain in territory.

[wales606]

What has happened to the welsh scrum that had the Argentinians under pressure last week?

[Shifty]

Stop blaming the ref lad. We're playing shoite

I agree, these Welsh players are garbage, it's shocking to look at. I think some of these lads are in for a hell of a backlash from the Welsh public after this effort.

I'm half and half about switching the game off we're that appalling. It's just gutless and pathetic from our players, they look scared of samoa and frightened to commit.

[EngInAuck]

15 vs 16 add to that woe Wales are useless and 606v2 is an Argentina/Samoa love fest. I'm turning it off and going to bed for the night.

Well everyone loves the "underdogs" what do you expect ?

[wales606]

Ryan Jones off, Warburton on

[PenfroPete]

GIBBO - feic off. We are shoite ...... but are we going to wait until one of those head hunting bar stards actually break someone's neck/kill someone before anyone takes action. Always have time for the 'minnows' but Samoa make me want to

[thebluesmancometh]

Thank god Ryan Jones is off, he was god awfull first half and non existant 2nd!!!

[Guest]

What game plan has Howley give this team?

[Duty281]

The chap that threw away Wales' best chance of getting to a WC Final is coming on.

[Gibson]

15 vs 16 add to that woe Wales are useless and 606v2 is an Argentina/Samoa love fest. I'm turning it off and going to bed for the night.

Ahh Bless.

[wales606]

Stupid kick from Phillips gift Samoa possession

[thebluesmancometh]

Officially 150 mins and no venture into a 22!!!

[wales606]

Warbuton turnover More like it

[Looseheaded]

The chap that threw away Wales' best chance of getting to a WC Final is coming on.

grow up.

[wales606]

Correction, it was Phillips, I made the same mistake as JD

[Guest]

Wake up Wales

[EngInAuck]

Samoan 9 is having an absolute blinder

[wales606]

Samoan scrum completely dominant now

I think Wales have lost this

[asoreleftshoulder]

I tell you what the Samoan OH has had one hell of a game with the boot,it really adds another dimension to their game when they have a 10 who can punish you with tactical kicking.

[Duty281]

The chap that threw away Wales' best chance of getting to a WC Final is coming on.

grow up.

[Taylorman]

This Samoan side, given the right backing by the useless and biased IRB, added to a restriction on poaching of their players by the Super Powers

Name a single poached player, let alone a flood of them.
Most ABs of Samoan heritage were born here, or learnt their rugby here, Thats why theyre All Blacks,

Woo, touchy Taylor. Touchy lad.

BTW, thanks for Michael Bent. Ya cant bate Irish Grannies.

Never heard of him so youre welcome.
Not touchy. Just like pointing out obvious instances of a lack of research assuming it was 'an idea'

[Pot Hale]

This game also puts Australia's summer wins over Wales in perspective.

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

As bad as Wales have been, the basic skills of Samoa have been much better than they usually display.

Or maybe it's just the refs fault. Stay classy 606v2 Welsh fans. Classy bunch all round.

[EngInAuck]

I tell you what the Samoan OH has had one hell of a game with the boot,it really adds another dimension to their game when they have a 10 who can punish you with tactical kicking.

[wales606]

Awful kick from Priestland :/

Next week is going to be a nightmare

[clivemcl]

If there wasn't a Samoan knock on during that mess in front of the posts then it must of been offside as the man in front picked the ball up.
F**king hell ref.

But was the ball not loose because of a welsh knock on in the first place?

[Guest]

Not wanting to overact yet, but I think we really need to look at our relaxed policy to our national coaches. No other home nation was willing to give up their head coach for a year prior to the Lions tour, but we said "yeah, go for it". We let them F off last Lions tour too, 4 of 3 of them, and Henry had a leave of absence written into his contact when he was coach. It does us no favours, it disrupts any continuity. We must address this policy IMO. It's affecting things on the field IMO.

[wales606]

Penalty from the scrum

GAME OVER

[Pot Hale]

Shades of Ireland V Enfland in the 6N. Welsh scrum like jelly.

[mckay1402]

so in conclusion Aaron Jarvis is not ready to replace Adam Jones

[Guest]

Embarrassing just plain embarrassing

[Shifty]

Penalty from the scrum

GAME OVER

I agree, sadly it looks as though Wales are about to bottom out. Typical really a Grandslam followed by a wooden spoon.

[EngInAuck]

Lovely sporting response from the welsh crowd when the kicker gets a cramp

[wales606]

Looks like Wales will be going into the 6N without a victory since they won the Grandslam

Has any team done that before? I think Wales managed 1 victory in '05 didn't they?

[Duty281]

Shanked the kick there. Come on Samoa, not long now.

[Guest]

Not wanting to overact yet, but I think we really need to look at our relaxed policy to our national coaches. No other home nation was willing to give up their head coach for a year prior to the Lions tour, but we said "yeah, go for it". We let them F off last Lions tour too, 4 of 3 of them, and Henry had a leave of absence written into his contact when he was coach. It does us no favours, it disrupts any continuity. We must address this policy IMO. It's affecting things on the field IMO.

i agree 100%

[Gibson]

GIBBO - feic off. We are shoite ...... but are we going to wait until one of those head hunting bar stards actually break someone's neck/kill someone before anyone takes action. Always have time for the 'minnows' but Samoa make me want to

Ah diddums. Its rugby, not soccerball.

Love you btw. Me bestest Welsh bud.

P.S. They have been over-physical, but its being exaggerated by Wales' frustration. Believe me, watching Ireland for the last 4 years, I am gone way beyond frustration. I want a hit-man on Kidney at this stage.

Game is not over yet. Missed pen.

If they only had a kicker...

Is Dan Carter Samoan?

[wales606]

Try Samoa

Dismal

[Shifty]

so in conclusion Aaron Jarvis is not ready to replace Adam Jones

I been saying that for ages, hes been a joke for the Ospreys hes cost us so many games with poor scrumagging, he did well against Argentina but he is basically a poor player. Not international class.

[Taylorman]

If theres one thing that annoys me is why teams persist in a huge amount of pointless kicking. You see it time after time after time. No thought behind half of them- most of them in the 'seemed like a good idea at the time' mould. Really really bad decisons are made all the time. Doesnt any analysis go on as to why these are being done.

Samoan try?

[mckay1402]

oops.

[Gibson]

Oh my. Best team, by a mile - won.

[clivemcl]

Great try!

[Duty281]

Try for Samoa.

0-5 since the Grand Slam.

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

I know that was very WUMish of me, but I can't help it. Ah well Welsh fans, chin up. Fiji will beat us tomorrow night

[Pot Hale]

I've seen missed kicks in my time. But that was a doozy of a miss.

Followed up by a cracking try. Well done Samoa.

[Breadvan]

You'll get no schadenfreude from me but Wales have been desperately poor again. Halfpenny is carrying this team. Some real soul searching in the next week or so methinks....

[AFewTooManyKnocks]

Well done Samoa. Can't believe their scrum!!

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