My Perfect Heavyweight...

Jab - Larry Holmes

Durability - James Jeffries

Hand speed - Tony Tubbs

Footwork - Jersey Joe Walcott..

Chin - Tex Cobb

body puncher - Rocky Marciano

Left hook - Joe Frazier

Right hook - George Foreman

Straight right - Joe Louis

Combination puncher - Muhammad Ali

Ring smarts - Jack Johnson

Heart - Tommy Burns

Conditioning - Evander Holyfield.

Defence - Jack Johnson..

Intimidation Factor - Joe Louis..

Compactability - Lennox Lewis..

Entertainment - Evander Holyfield..

Stamina ought to be Ibeabuchi

He didn't have much at the Oyster..

Is that where you get your pearls of wisdom

Would probably go with Chuvalo for the chin Truss, think he mixed in slightly better company than Cobb and took some fearsome shots without buckling.

Ali a better combo puncher than Louis??


It's quiet around here.

Straight right would be Louis, all day and every day. Agree with Jeff about Chuvalo's chin, and I'd take Ali's hand speed over Tubbs without thinking too hard about it (now I have thought about it, I still would!). Always thought that Jersey Joe ranked second to the Greatest in footwork, so I'm going for Ali in that department as well. Might take Evander's heart too, although only metaphorically, of course - God knows what the physical item must resemble. As for intimidation - Louis is up there, of course, but I might take Liston, Foreman (first incarnation) or early Tyson ahead of him.

Incidentally, would add inside game to the list of necessary attributes, where I can't think of anyone to beat Frazier, and would add one question - what exactly is compactability, Truss? Genuinely not sure what you're driving at with that one.

Nice to see the boilermaker getting a shout on durability, make take a while but I'll have him on top of people's top tens eventually.

Straight right surely Wlad K he throws that punch perfectly with serious power.

Jab: Liston

Durability: Marciano

Hand Speed: Patterson

Footwork: Tunney

Chin: Chuvalo

Body Puncher: Tyson (80's version)

Left hook: Frazier

Right hook: Foreman.

Straight right: Louis/Marciano.

Combination: Louis.

Ring smarts: Louis.

Heart: Frazier.

Conditioning: Marciano.

Defence: Jimmy Young.

Intimidation: Liston.

Compactibility: Tyson

Entertainment: Tyson.

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:Straight right surely Wlad K he throws that punch perfectly with serious power.

........and with that, the once quiet and dignified thread turned all viral and nasty.

Super D Boon wrote:

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:Straight right surely Wlad K he throws that punch perfectly with serious power.

........and with that, the once quiet and dignified thread turned all viral and nasty.

Why? Surely I'm not the only one who thinks Wlad K throws a fantastic straight right?

I agree he does but get ready for the onslaught.......!

Would put RJJ for speed but I doubt he qualifies as he only had one fight which was for a title regardless

Barring he doenst count Patterson gets my vote

Louis for straight right although Wlad is a decent choice but hasn't proved it liel Louis had

Ali has the best footwork

Chuvalo defo for chin

Tyson for intimidation factor too

Frazier for entertainment maybe

The rest I would probably agree with Truss

Footwork - Peter Jackson

What about McCall for "chin"?

Uppercut - Tyson.....FURY!

Forgot the all-important category of "excuse-making", for which there is only one sensible candidate. Step forward from the jungle, that man.

captain carrantuohil wrote:Forgot the all-important category of "excuse-making", for which there is only one sensible candidate. Step forward from the jungle, that man.

captain carrantuohil wrote:Forgot the all-important category of "excuse-making", for which there is only one sensible candidate. Step forward from the jungle, that man.

Enough on Haye's ledger to rank above 'Enry in that respect, captain?

88Chris05 wrote:

captain carrantuohil wrote:Forgot the all-important category of "excuse-making", for which there is only one sensible candidate. Step forward from the jungle, that man.

Enough on Haye's ledger to rank above 'Enry in that respect, captain?

Think Big Pants Lar might pip them both to the post

You've got me there, Chris. Stewards' enquiry is belatedly announced - this is a tight one, and one heavyweight area in which we have consistently outshone the rest of the world.

Always considered Enry more of a whinger than an excuse maker Chris.

Larry Big Pants can have the best smack talker title for this thread I think, Dave!

Is drawing board purchasing a category?

Audley sadly couldn't be here to pick up his award as he's gone to Staples to buy a new drawing board.

STAPLES had sold out and stated they weren't getting in any new supplies before March to which Audley replied, "Oh well back to the drawing board!"

If Audley goes back to that drawing board one more time there's going to be a national shortage of chalk, Superfly.

My 18 month old daughter got a drawing board for Christmas. I suspect that if she spent any time playing with it that she would be more likely to be heavyweight world champion than Audley.

88Chris05 wrote:If Audley goes back to that drawing board one more time there's going to be a national shortage of chalk, Superfly.

Aye though thats only half the reason for the shortage - the other reason would be the police drawing chalk outlines of him everytime they thought he was dead.

the other reason would be the police drawing chalk outlines of him everytime they thought he was dead..

... and I've just spat water all over my keyboard!

ShahenshahG wrote:Is that where you get your pearls of wisdom

More like his pearl necklace of wisdom

superflyweight wrote:My 18 month old daughter got a drawing board for Christmas. I suspect that if she spent any time playing with it that she would be more likely to be heavyweight world champion than Audley.

Eeeh Santa's was a tight fisted **** this year wasn't he?

He is Scottish Dave.

That explains all that heavy drinking, eating junk food and only working one day a year then!

DAVE667 wrote:

superflyweight wrote:My 18 month old daughter got a drawing board for Christmas. I suspect that if she spent any time playing with it that she would be more likely to be heavyweight world champion than Audley.

Eeeh Santa's was a tight fisted **** this year wasn't he?

... and she was lucky to get it as it was from a generous auntie. We bought her the traditional Yorkshire gifts of a stale loaf and a dead ferret.

TWO gifts? She's not spoiled she's bloody ruined!

My daughter's Xmas gift was to be allowed in out of the cold for five minutes.

I'm so tight I haven't even got kids.

Rowley wrote:I'm so tight I haven't even got kids.

Never heard of a caesarian?

KIND OF SALAD ISN'T IT?

THAT'LL BE WHY ROWLEY HASN'T HEARD OF IT!!!!!!!!

hahaha

Think Sean would pick Vanessa Phelps. Not sure what category, maybe hand speed.

Joe Louis.........straight right..........vacant no longer..

Not much variation in the names...but its how i honestly see it

Build - Wlad

Jab - Tyson (obviously with Wlad's build)

Durability - Ali/Marciano

Hand speed - Ali/Tyson

Footwork - Ali

Chin - McCall

Body puncher - Marciano

Left hook - Tua/Louis

Right hook - Foreman

Straight right - Lewis

Uppercut - Tyson

Combination puncher - Tyson

Ring smarts - Tunney

Heart - Ali/Holyfield

Conditioning - Holyfield/Marciano

Defence - Chris Byrd/Tyson

Intimidation Factor - Tyson/Liston

Compactability - I don't know what that means?

Entertainment - Dempsey

For build I'd go Mike Weaver or Kenny Norton......Mackem.

Norton wouldn't be a big Heavyweight by today's standards (what was he, 6'3" and about 215 lb?) but you're right Truss, he was an incredible specimen. He looked like he'd been carved from marble. Beautifully proportioned and not an ounce of fat on him. Muscular, but not too bulky.

The difference between his physique and the clearly undertrained and slightly flabby Ali's when they boxed for the first time was alarming.

True enough Chris.........But I think people sometimes forget how strong a 215 pounder can be.

Lewis build was good also.......nice compactability.

Ibeabuchi had an awesome build and brilliant stamina and he was uly as hell and looked like an escaped mental patient - sign oif things to come, thats who he should look like

Drinking last night, Shah ???

Should he be able to pull off Holyfield's famous Triple Jab?

?????

Sorry TRUSS, I didn't realise I had to spell it out for you.

Would your 'Perfect Heavyweight' be able to pull off Holyfield's famous Triple Jab?