Frampton to Warren??

Rumours are Carl Frampton is teaming up with Frank Warren.

Anyone else heard this?

I was just about to post this as well - its all over twitter at the moment.

looks like adamk 1 adam D 0.

haha only kidding.

i think its a good move for Carl as he wasnt going to be 1 of hearns main men for a while but now he will be one of Warrens

How can it be a good move..............

No one will get to see him box and less worthy fighters get a chance to be household names at his expense...........

Warren can't afford big paydays either..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How can it be a good move..............

No one will get to see him box and less worthy fighters get a chance to be household names at his expense...........

Warren can't afford big paydays either..

What's Frank promised Barry? A crack at Ricky Burns for himself to relive the glory days?

Strange one as I would have thought that Frampton would have been smart enough to realise that he's still not headlining material just yet.

if I'm Hearn I'm glad Frampton is gone...........He's okay but Mcguigan is a knob...........

Warren will never get a word in...

Matchroom release a statement saying they've parted company....
Minutes before a Warren press conference....

Place your bets!

Hearn has found Mcguigan to be too much like hard work I'll bet..

And there we go...

Warren twitter feed showing a photo of the banner for the 20th July show with Frampton on...

Good signing for Warren I reckon...
If he can get Frampton-Quigg on in the autumn would be a good coup.

You honestly think Quigg-Frampton fight for peanuts on Boxnation ???

I reckon there's a good chance yeah.

You reckon theres a good chance of Ayrton Senna winning the F1 title this year ??

Eddie Hearn : "We have enjoyed our time working with Carl Frampton as Promoter of his boxing career. However, after the success of the last Frampton fight we were informed by Barry McGuigan that he wanted to be joint promoter in future Frampton fights.

"Whilst we had no problem whatsoever in agreeing purses for Carl Frampton, we felt that such a relationship with Barry McGuigan represented a potential conflict of interest with Barry's role as Carl's Manager and we could therefore not agree to be involved on this basis.

"Matchroom Sport and I wish Carl every success in his future boxing career."

Mcguigan he really is a moron........

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You reckon theres a good chance of Ayrton Senna winning the F1 title this year ??

That seems less likely.
Frampton will be a big dog in Warren's stable and he must have offered them decent money to sign with him.

Reckon he'll fight Quigg in Belfast before Christmas.
Hatton is happy enough to deal with Warren now.

I was just going say I bet its because of McGuigan. Seems to be a mistake from Frampton. Hearn was doing well with him and he was one of the better prospects in the stable.

Stupid move by Frampton. Quigg has fallen into relative obscurity since being dropped from Sky. The same will happen to Carl.

Well, Warren's still hanging on in there! Nice coup for him personally, but I'm not really convinced it's the best move for Frampton, and you'd have to wonder if this is really what he wanted, or if it's just something McGuigan is effectively forcing upon him.

It will be interesting say what Warren does with him. Frampton is a big draw in Ireland and could shift serious tickets there. He seemed not far off really announcing himself as a headliner with the right fights. Good crowd pleasing style, solid fanbase, genuine talent. If Warren can manage destroy that or have him fighting nobodies for the next few years then it will be very impressive.

Big mistake if he goes to Warren. Be better off going to GBP. Barry Mcguigan is insane to make stupid demands, he's going to cost Frampton a championship fight. Andre Dirrell stepped on Al Haymon's toes and look where he is now. Same goes for Eddie Hearn at the minute.

Here's his statement:

http://www.matchroomboxing.com/news/hearn_ends_frampton_ties.htm

rob-glos wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You reckon theres a good chance of Ayrton Senna winning the F1 title this year ??

That seems less likely.
Frampton will be a big dog in Warren's stable and he must have offered them decent money to sign with him.

Reckon he'll fight Quigg in Belfast before Christmas.
Hatton is happy enough to deal with Warren now.

Someone put Truss on a ban for a bit. He's mocking the deceased.

davidemore wrote:

rob-glos wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You reckon theres a good chance of Ayrton Senna winning the F1 title this year ??

That seems less likely.
Frampton will be a big dog in Warren's stable and he must have offered them decent money to sign with him.

Reckon he'll fight Quigg in Belfast before Christmas.
Hatton is happy enough to deal with Warren now.

Someone put Truss on a ban for a bit. He's mocking the deceased.

I promise I won't mock you If you want to play chicken on the motorway..

Slander!

Frampton is an idiot for doing this. Welcome to obscurity

Frampton does what he's told...

What a terrible move by Carl. Terrible.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Frampton does what he's told...

Clearly. This is idiotic. What a foolish move

Probably wont fight in Ireland again.

America is the place for Frampton.............His style is attractive..he's talented and a huge Irish American following all beckon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQS6CluXd6k

Presser

Dont really care about the tv deal as he will be fighting around the corner from me mostly.

But the only logical reason I can find behind all this is too many big names leaving Frank for Eddie, leaving Frank with more time and money to spend on a decent fighter like Carl.

If he doesnt fulfill his contract obligations then I'm sure Eddie will take him back onto Sky in a heartbeat considering the fanbase Frampton has in Ireland. Its all about the £££

Well I look forward to all of Frampton's hard work and progress over the last 18 months becoming completely stunted as he rots away on boxnation with smaller viewing figures fighting his way towards fights against the lesser names and gatekeepers of the division until Rigondeux gives up the WBO belt and he get it on with someone who poses no danger.

I suppose he can at least share the limelight of top dog in the stable with Nathan Cleverely!!

golden boy uk is more likely

owen10ozzy wrote:Well I look forward to all of Frampton's hard work and progress over the last 18 months becoming completely stunted as he rots away on boxnation with smaller viewing figures fighting his way towards fights against the lesser names and gatekeepers of the division until Rigondeux gives up the WBO belt and he get it on with someone who poses no danger.

I suppose he can at least share the limelight of top dog in the stable with Nathan Cleverely!!

Exactly how I see it.

Silly, silly boy.

From watching the press conference and reading Matchrooms statement it's clear McGuigan just really wanted to co-promote Frampton. McGuigan knows how the game works, he's been through the courts with Barney Eastwood. He obviously wants more control and more of the pot. I think it's a bit early for McGuigan to be striking out as a Framptons promoter. They could have waited until a world title was in the bag.

Barry's a wheeler dealer and a salesman, he also has a terrestrial TV/ newspaper profile from which to make sure Frampton is not forgotten about.

Every time McGuigan said Frank gave them a fabulous deal you could Warren squirming a bit more at the end of the table.


Hearn doesn't have a problem co-promoting Haye's fights with Hayemaker. Eddie doesn't see a "conflict of interest" when it comes to Haye. Seems a bit hypocritical.

Strongback wrote:From watching the press conference and reading Matchrooms statement it's clear McGuigan just really wanted to co-promote Frampton. McGuigan knows how the game works, he's been through the courts with Barney Eastwood. He obviously wants more control and more of the pot. I think it's a bit early for McGuigan to be striking out as a Framptons promoter. They could have waited until a world title was in the bag.

Barry's a wheeler dealer and a salesman, he also has a terrestrial TV/ newspaper profile from which to make sure Frampton is not forgotten about.

Every time McGuigan said Frank gave them a fabulous deal you could Warren squirming a bit more at the end of the table.


Hearn doesn't have a problem co-promoting Haye's fights with Hayemaker. Eddie doesn't see a "conflict of interest" when it comes to Haye. Seems a bit hypocritical.

Hearn has become a big fish he doesn't have to concede anything to Mcguigan............It's Frampton not Haye we are talking about....

Haye was a big earner..

I don't disagree that Haye brings more to the negotiating table but why does Hearn sight a "conflict of interest" with McGuigan but not with Haye/Booth. Poorly chosen words by Eddie I feel. Should have just said McGuigan wanted more than we were prepared to give.

Barry is his pimp. Quigg will beat him anyway.

The frampton team want to cash in whilst the iron is hot.
The Irish love sport but lack international sporting heroes atm. English boxers have to compete with footballers, Olympic athletes, rugby players, cricketers etc. frampton only has to compete with Rory Mclroy and one or two football and rugby players as potential international icons, GAA players are unknown outside Ireland. His team therefore see the potential and don't want to hang around when there is so much money to be made. Even a domestic frampton clash could probably sell 50,000 tickets. After the London show, 3 big shows in Ireland with large revenue. Any future world title fight would probably do good ppv numbers in Ireland as well. The frampton team probably wanted more control over where and when they fight as well as bigger slice of the pie. Don't blame them tbh, frampton has more potential commercial power than the other matchroom prospects mainly because of the geography.

frampton has little chance of beating the top names of the division atm anyways so a few more fights against b level opponents won't hurt him. i think barry might be worried that frampton might become forgotten in eddies increasingly expanding stable, so would rather go to frank where he would be the main man. i don't think barry will let frampton fall to the way side.

my only worry is frank is getting a bit of a rep for announcing fights thats aren't even neared signed as going ahead, and a few of the big names may not deal with him.

I think this is a case of mcguigans ego getting in the way. Frampton being a staple on sky could only aid him in getting the big fights in the division. Mcguigan has no business being a co promoter, seems like an attempt ti get a bigger piece of the pie.

Classy breakup statement from Hearn. Leaves the door open. When Frampton breaks from warren. Which he will have to do at some point he'll get sued and slandered.

I would say McGuigan genuinely has Framptons best interests at heart. He doesn’t strike me a greedy guy looking for more money off him. He just doesn’t come across as being an easy guy to work with because its always like Barry knows best. I think he genuinely cares about Frampton and believes he will go far which is why he wants more control. He probably just became too interfering for Matchroom to deal with.

Frampton is from tigers bay so he has no "Irish" fan base like say duddy and mc closkey would have.

He'll have next to no fans from the south of Ireland.

Ent wrote:Frampton is from tigers bay so he has no "Irish" fan base like say duddy and mc closkey would have.

He'll have next to no fans from the south of Ireland.

Rubbish. His fan base is far superior to McCloskey. Do you read any boxing writers from the Republic? They are really high on Frampton. Frampton is a former Irish Seniors Champion, so he has a fan base. Why do you keep labouring the point that he is from Tigers Bay? Not everyone lets geography choose who they can and can't support.

6oldenbhoy wrote:

Ent wrote:Frampton is from tigers bay so he has no "Irish" fan base like say duddy and mc closkey would have.

He'll have next to no fans from the south of Ireland.

Rubbish. His fan base is far superior to McCloskey. Do you read any boxing writers from the Republic? They are really high on Frampton. Frampton is a former Irish Seniors Champion, so he has a fan base. Why do you keep labouring the point that he is from Tigers Bay? Not everyone lets geography choose who they can and can't support.

If geography doesn't matter why would he have any Irish fans? Why not fight in china?

Like it or lump it he is from a really dodgy area and really dodgy people form a large part of his fan base.

Irish writers may appreciate his talents but that doesn't mean he's going to sell out a 50k arena as someone suggested.

Lots of boxers come from dodgy areas. It doesnt affect their fanbase. So what if Frampton comes from a dodgy area?

winchester wrote:Lots of boxers come from dodgy areas. It doesnt affect their fanbase. So what if Frampton comes from a dodgy area?

It would effect his mass appeal in Ireland.

Maybe I am ill informed but there's a lot of chat about the atmosphere being quite nasty and a lot of sectarian songs being sung at his fights. Personally I can't be arsed with all that, not worth the hassle.

Good luck to him anyway.

If you go to any big fights in th UK you will get dodgy chants from some sections. I know someone that was at the Derry Mattews fight recntly and there was alot of back and forth. Its boxing, not cricket. Hatton came from a council estate and his fans followed him everywhere with chants etc. Part of the atmosphere.

Ent wrote:

6oldenbhoy wrote:

Ent wrote:Frampton is from tigers bay so he has no "Irish" fan base like say duddy and mc closkey would have.

He'll have next to no fans from the south of Ireland.

Rubbish. His fan base is far superior to McCloskey. Do you read any boxing writers from the Republic? They are really high on Frampton. Frampton is a former Irish Seniors Champion, so he has a fan base. Why do you keep labouring the point that he is from Tigers Bay? Not everyone lets geography choose who they can and can't support.

If geography doesn't matter why would he have any Irish fans? Why not fight in china?

Like it or lump it he is from a really dodgy area and really dodgy people form a large part of his fan base.

Irish writers may appreciate his talents but that doesn't mean he's going to sell out a 50k arena as someone suggested.

I didn't say geography doesn't matter, my point was do you think Irish fight fans would not support him because of the district he grew up in? His fiancé is a Catholic, from the nationalist Poleglass area of West Belfast. His best mate, and who will most probably be his best man is Paddy Barnes, another Catholic. He shuns all talk of politics, even going as far as saying if national anthems are required for his bout, he will ask for Danny Boy instead. From what I can gather he receives great support from all sides of the community in Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland is moving on from the dark old days and its people like Carl who are helping.

How can you possibly say "really dodgy people form a large part of his fan base."? Have you surveyed them? You assume they are dodgy because of where Carl is from, but many people from Carl's area are actually decent working class people. No doubt there are a few bigots etc who follow him, but any fighter from Belfast will have the same. The crowd at the Oddysey was a mix of both religions and everyone got behind Carl and created a brilliant atmosphere. Regarding the sectarian singing, my brother, who was at the Martinez fight, didn't hear any. A mate was at the Molitor fight and he can't remember any either.

Irish journalists are writing about him because he is making waves and people want to read about it. If no one outside of Northern Ireland was interested in him, then he wouldn't get the coverage and column inches he does in the Republic of Ireland. I don't know who said he could fight in a 50k arena, but I imagine even Carl himself would scoff at the suggestion. Ireland doesn't have the population and boxing is still a minority sport behind Soccer, GAA and Rugby.

6oldenbhoy wrote:

Ent wrote:

6oldenbhoy wrote:

Ent wrote:Frampton is from tigers bay so he has no "Irish" fan base like say duddy and mc closkey would have.

He'll have next to no fans from the south of Ireland.

Rubbish. His fan base is far superior to McCloskey. Do you read any boxing writers from the Republic? They are really high on Frampton. Frampton is a former Irish Seniors Champion, so he has a fan base. Why do you keep labouring the point that he is from Tigers Bay? Not everyone lets geography choose who they can and can't support.

If geography doesn't matter why would he have any Irish fans? Why not fight in china?

Like it or lump it he is from a really dodgy area and really dodgy people form a large part of his fan base.

Irish writers may appreciate his talents but that doesn't mean he's going to sell out a 50k arena as someone suggested.

I didn't say geography doesn't matter, my point was do you think Irish fight fans would not support him because of the district he grew up in? His fiancé is a Catholic, from the nationalist Poleglass area of West Belfast. His best mate, and who will most probably be his best man is Paddy Barnes, another Catholic. He shuns all talk of politics, even going as far as saying if national anthems are required for his bout, he will ask for Danny Boy instead. From what I can gather he receives great support from all sides of the community in Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland is moving on from the dark old days and its people like Carl who are helping.

How can you possibly say "really dodgy people form a large part of his fan base."? Have you surveyed them? You assume they are dodgy because of where Carl is from, but many people from Carl's area are actually decent working class people. No doubt there are a few bigots etc who follow him, but any fighter from Belfast will have the same. The crowd at the Oddysey was a mix of both religions and everyone got behind Carl and created a brilliant atmosphere. Regarding the sectarian singing, my brother, who was at the Martinez fight, didn't hear any. A mate was at the Molitor fight and he can't remember any either.

Irish journalists are writing about him because he is making waves and people want to read about it. If no one outside of Northern Ireland was interested in him, then he wouldn't get the coverage and column inches he does in the Republic of Ireland. I don't know who said he could fight in a 50k arena, but I imagine even Carl himself would scoff at the suggestion. Ireland doesn't have the population and boxing is still a minority sport behind Soccer, GAA and Rugby.

I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong and I will take your word on it that your brother was right.

Feel a bit guilty for being judgemental but I was informed the crowd was singing we will bathe ourselves in Fenian blood at his last fight.

Hence my scepticism that he would have many fans in the republic.