Salido vs Lomenchenko

A lot of repeatitive drival about Floyd, Khan etc on here so how about discussing this fire cracker this weekend as there hasn't been much said recently...

Does Lomenchenko have it in him to bypass the experience factor of the pro game to tackle one of the sports toughest names?

Does he deserve to even be fighting for the belt in the first place??

What next for both guys win or lose?

Salido has been in with the best, both winning and losing. Lomenchenko, as talented as he is has never fought over 4 rounds!!

If this fight goes into the middle, late rounds how will the Ukrainian cope?

So many ways to look at this bout and I for one see it as the fight of a fantastic weekend of boxing

Answers on a postcard please

Cheers

Dee

Lomo has too much class for this guy...

Salido is a Margarito clone..

Lomo in 7..

He is a very special talent, there is no doubting that. But does he know how to survive the deep waters in the pro game? Hopefully we'll find this out this weekend, his first fight certainly showed he had the power to hurt his opponents.

Salido showed in his fights against an unbeaten Lopez that he is relentless also Paul.

If Lomenchenko cant hurt Salido and the fight enters the 2nd half of the fight then it will be interesting to see how things go.

We all know what Salido brings but the great thing is there are massive question marks hanging over Lomo due to never contesting over a fight of this length.

His talent over 3 rounds is unquestionable. But hopefully we can see what happens when his defence and power start to fade a little as the fight wears on. If he has yet another side to his game.

Great fight I think.

I honestly don't know what to predict in this one. Lomachenko obviously has all the speed and skill advantages, and to a large degree as well, but if Salido is still there by the half way stage then there's every right to wonder if Lomachenko's chances will take a big hit.

Don't think it'll be a walk in the park for Lomachenko, personally. I'll guess that he wins the decision after a good fight back in the late rounds from Salido.

Salido is easy to hit.....Doesn't matter how tough you are If punches are coming at you from different angles...

Nunn v Roldan 2....

Hope he wins easy...Might start a craze of fighters going early and leaving useless stiffs alone..

Joshua...hint hint!!

Little ignorant there Truss.

If he was the plodder and easy to hit fighter you speak of then surely even with his positive test when fighting Guerrero who you had as number 4 p4p when he fought Floyd should have still wiped the floor with him instead of being completely outboxed

Never had Guerrero at 4..

Siri Salido by 10th round KO.

Yes you did Truss. You mentioned it on all those Frampton articles I apparently wrote ad nauseam ;-)

He was number 8 in the ring rankings..

Don't call me ignorant and then deliberately make invalid statements..

It isn't cricket.

I maybe ignorant...But Salido has lost 12 times...and is Margarito at a lower weight

Average

Loma UD.

6-3 up after 9 but Salido rallies and takes the 10th & 11th, Loma digging deep in the 12th to secure the round and win the title, as well as the accolade of fastest ever world champion.

So he's not the best on the planet. And yes you are ignorant. You are too far up Floyd that you write off anybody with losses. He has continuously fought the best and after losing has went on to beat champions and win belts. In your world boxing would be a fighters retiring as soon as they lose for the first time.

Get a grip

Tough one for me. It's no secret Lomenchenko has the skills advantage by some margin, however his stamina over the stretch is completely unknown.

Salido is a brute but an effective one. You would think his corner would be shaping his game plan to try and take it to the second half of the fight and see if Lomenchenko fades which allows Salido to take over.

Either wide UD for Lomenchenko or late TKO for Salido for me.

Hard to imagine Loma not winning.

Still there are enough legitimate questions that Loma will need to answer.  It's a good test with enough intrigue to make it interesting.

I hope Loma becomes P4P No.1 as he is such an ambitious fighter.  Boxing would benefit greatly with this kind of mentality at the forefront of the sport.

I wonder will the troubles in his homeland effect him in any way.  An unidentified (Russian) fully equipped armed force descending on his country today and taking over stategic positions is hard to ignore.

I reckon he will be Strongy...Timing is everything with this guy..

I thought Lomachenko looked uncomfortable at times on his debut -- it's fantastic matchmaking as Siri is exactly the type of fighter you'd expect to ride out an early storm before coming on strong down the stretch.

Really intriguing fight. There are a few this weekend -- the Glasgow card looks ace.

If Lomachenko does win then there'll be the inevitable calls for Rigo-Loma later this year. If it's technical skills, accuracy, feints and deft footwork that gets your juices flowing, then there's going to be some serious eye candy on offer there!

Leonard-Benitez style.

Lomachenko for me. I'm expecting a cracking fight. I think they have matched him with Salido at just about the right time. Still a great champ but maybe just coming up to a slide. I think a Garcia like performance is required.

I'm so excited for this fight and honestly have no idea what's gonna happen because of the mystery of Lomachenko

His skills and pedigree are obvious, but can he take a punch from a strong guy like salido, does he have the power/stamina to keep him off him for 12 rounds, does he know how to set a pace to last should it go the distance

Salido will do what he always does, apply constant pressure and try to wear him down over the stretch. I don't he will be stopped, he's been in with a lot of heavy punchers like gamboa, garcia, lopez and JMM without being stopped as he has good powers of recovery so he will be in it for the long haul

Battle hardened veteran vs a possible great fighter who has been an amateur his whole career

https://www.606v2.com/t52081-next-p4p-no-1-has-only-had-one-fight

....Discussion on this last week.

Looking forward to it. Decent weekends boxing in principle... Though last week's looked nothing special and was great so who knows.

Salido generally finds a way to get his overhand right into play when he faces southpaws.

I cautiously back Vasyl for a UD, but Salido is the upset machine. He'll keep plugging away and getting stronger as it goes on.

Will Lomachenko go all out to make it an early night or pace himself for the late rounds onslaught he'll have to face.

There are some potentially rabid onlookers who are betting material possessions. I am not among them, despite having rabies.

Orlando Salido has failed the weight and has been stripped of the IBF featherweight title. 

I'm a little peed...

Anyway on the undercard Brian Vera and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr both weighed in @ 167.5lbs. 

Seems as though Chavez isn't fond off losing large chunks of his purse and by making the weight saved himself $250k. Chavez looks in good shape.

Chavez' corner celebrating like making weight isn't the minimal expectation for a title fight regardless of what your second name is.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Salido generally finds a way to get his overhand right into play when he faces southpaws.

I cautiously back Vasyl for a UD, but Salido is the upset machine. He'll keep plugging away and getting stronger as it goes on.

Will Lomachenko go all out to make it an early night or pace himself for the late rounds onslaught he'll have to face.

There are some potentially rabid onlookers who are betting material possessions. I am not among them, despite having rabies.

I guess you'd need the possessions to be among them jbw, not just the rabies.

If salido has genuinely tried but couldn't make the weight, be interesting to see what he has left in the tank. Might be that the idea of him coming on strong later on, may now be longer odds.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Chavez' corner celebrating like making weight isn't the minimal expectation for a title fight regardless of what your second name is.

Brilliant. Is like getting pulled over by the police when driving and doing cartwheels because you pass a breathalyser test.

You could do worse

Salido loses the belt on the scales. Puts a bit of a dampner things

Doesn't necessarily mean Loma wins it though. They'll both still be coming to win.

Does it change the complexion of the fight also?! I can't help but shake the feeling he has missed this on purpose in an attempt to gain some advantage of Vasyl...

Regardless I honestly see Lomanchenko sending out a massive signal here and don't think it will be anywhere near as close as people are expecting. I would even go as far as saying I think he will box on the back foot for the first few before fighting fire with fire and going at Salido, staying in the pocket and beating him at his own game.

I am genuinely sold on the Ukranian, something I try not to do when prospects come out...but something just makes me think he really is the next special star of this sport. Lomachenko around the 7/8th round!

(Cue him being caught cold and taken out in 1st Round)   

Salido coming in 2.5lbs over weight may be an indication he has already admitted defeat. I personally don't see a fighter losing his title on the scales as a sign he is going to put in a career defining performance.

Loma also doesn't get to win a world belt in his second fight. He won't be happy with that. Salido may have antagonised a lion.

Lomachenko is fighting for the vacant belt strongy.

Salido's a pro and a hard worker. Can't see him being unmotivated given that upsetting the apple cart is how he puts food on the table. Agree with owen's theory of Siri coming in heavy rather than drained. He's previously said the hardest thing about boxing these days is making weight.

Evening chaps. Does anyone know roughly what time the Lomenchenko fight will start?

Gone are the days when I could pull an all nighter!!

I'll PM you the correct formula of chemicals for pulling an all nighter if you like. One wrong dosage will kill you instantly btw.

He looked as though he was struggling to make weight against Garcia not really major shock he hasn't made weight this time.

Many thanks John, having a kip and setting an alarm may be easier than setting up a bubbling Dr. Jekyll chemistry kit however.

Did I mention it will give you the libido to pleasure ten female bouncers with exceptionally high expectations?

This is a bad style matchup for Salido. Never seen Lomenchenko myself, but think he sticks to his boxing to take a well earned UD.  Salido will be intent on showing him what the pro game is all about however.


Can only echo what's already been said really. If Lomenchenko tires, then it could get interesting as Salido's as relentless as they come. Probably find the Ukranian has untold stamina though to go along with his talent. The bookies have him such a hot favourite considering he's never been past four rounds, that it's hard to conceive they could have got it so wrong.

People here getting carried away with a 1 fight novice.

''He's exceptionally quick'' - JBW

''His skills are extraordinary'' - Hampo

''He is the NEW Sugar Ray Leonard'' - Chris

''For they could not love you
But still your love was true
And when no hope was left in sight
On that starry, starry night

You took your life, as lovers often do
But I could've told you Loma
This world was never meant for
One as beautiful as you''            - Badgerhands

Turn it down a notch guys 

Country falling apart, positive or negative?

Lomachenko's excellence in the ring is put in the shadow only by the benevolence in his heart, and the resolve in his mind. If he is ever defeated, then it will only be by Allah himself, as no mortal being could possibly make this ultimate example of greatness in humanity taste defeat and be second best.

seanmichaels wrote:Country falling apart, positive or negative?

Well good question

Seems a bit unfair on the kid as he has enough pressure on his shoulders already.

Not only is he facing a champion in his 2nd fight but he carries the hopes and dreams of the whole of Ukraine/Russia.

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:People here getting carried away with a 1 fight novice.

''He's exceptionally quick'' - JBW

''His skills are extraordinary'' - Hampo

''He is the NEW Sugar Ray Leonard'' - Chris

''For they could not love you
But still your love was true
And when no hope was left in sight
On that starry, starry night

You took your life, as lovers often do
But I could've told you Loma
This world was never meant for
One as beautiful as you''            - Badgerhands

Turn it down a notch guys 

That was beautiful OneTwo.. 

Herman Jaggery wrote:This is a bad style matchup for Salido. Never seen Lomenchenko myself.

Loving your work hermy.

milkyboy wrote:

Herman Jaggery wrote:This is a bad style matchup for Salido. Never seen Lomenchenko myself.

Loving your work hermy.

Haha, exactly what I thought.

"I have an opinion, I'm going to make my opinion totally worthless"

Watching Chavez v Manfredo. Did Chavez start puberty when he was 25 or something??

He looks so much bigger and generally manlier now. Still can't grow a proper beard though.

Remember when he was fighting at Welterweight on the undercard of Pacqioau Cotto, not THAT long ago really and he looked like a little boy.

Late puberty or...unnatural enhancement.