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Post by It Must Be Love Tue 8 Sep - 1:34

summerblues wrote:

My assumption when it comes to apparent injuries and ailments is that they are faking it unless proven otherwise.
That's exactly the attitude I'm going to have when working at my job in 6 years time.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 1:35

Lol at that game. Just hold it together Andy.

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 1:36

Anyway, Anderson still holding up well.

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Post by temporary21 Tue 8 Sep - 1:39

This might have tb written all over it

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 1:39

Andy needs a break. No doubt Abderson will give it everything if he gets to 5-4.

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Post by It Must Be Love Tue 8 Sep - 1:39

This is unreal from Kev

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 1:40

This is ridiculous. How is Anderson this good?

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 8 Sep - 1:42

I remember a 23yo Anderson in 2010 getting just a few games vs Murray at the Aus open. 
Now this. Peaking at 29.

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Post by It Must Be Love Tue 8 Sep - 1:43

LuvSports! wrote:I remember a 23yo Anderson in 2010 getting just a few games vs Murray at the Aus open. 
Now this. Peaking at 29.
Big servers tend to peak later.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 1:43

LuvSports! wrote:I remember a 23yo Anderson in 2010 getting just a few games vs Murray at the Aus open. 
Now this. Peaking at 29.

Same as Stan and Lopez and multiple other players?

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 1:46

Murray's playing a great set here. Surely Kev has to give him some look at his serve?

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 1:46

Obviously starts with an ace. What else?

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 1:49

Great return crushed back for a near winner. What can anyone do against this?

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 8 Sep - 1:49

Born Slippy wrote:
LuvSports! wrote:I remember a 23yo Anderson in 2010 getting just a few games vs Murray at the Aus open. 
Now this. Peaking at 29.

Same as Stan and Lopez and multiple other players?

My point is, lots of players seem to be peaking around that age and that goes against the grain of peaking at no later than 27.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 1:49

Feel the break for the match is about 80% chance here.

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Post by It Must Be Love Tue 8 Sep - 1:51

Born Slippy wrote:Feel the break for the match is about 80% chance here.
No, don't think so.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 1:54

LuvSports! wrote:
Born Slippy wrote:
LuvSports! wrote:I remember a 23yo Anderson in 2010 getting just a few games vs Murray at the Aus open. 
Now this. Peaking at 29.

Same as Stan and Lopez and multiple other players?

My point is, lots of players seem to be peaking around that age and that goes against the grain of peaking at no later than 27.

I agree. I suspect its probably because its the longest spell we've had without significant technological change. Combined with players coping better with injuries and experience now tells.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 1:55

What a point at 30-30. Surely that's going to have taken something out of Anderson?

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 8 Sep - 1:55

Tech for sure, but no change in conditions and ball size too.

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Post by temporary21 Tue 8 Sep - 1:57

Thats surely it

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 8 Sep - 1:59

wow

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 2:00

The luck in this match at critical times has all gone against Andy. Feel so sorry for him but hopefully he knows he has played a great match.

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 8 Sep - 2:00

That should be that.

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Post by temporary21 Tue 8 Sep - 2:01

The usual suspects on in the morning, let it be known how hard both guys gave it out there. Both deserve a lot of respect, the early tactics costing Murray ultimately

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 2:03

What a TB and what a match from Kevin. He blasted Murray off the court.

I know you guys would have preferred Andy but I am glad that attacking players continue to do well this USO.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 2:03

temporary21 wrote:The usual suspects on in the morning, let it be known how hard both guys gave it out there. Both deserve a lot of respect, the early tactics costing Murray ultimately

Utter rubbish - tactics were pretty much perfect. A breathtaking performance by KA. No-one on earth would have stopped him tonight.

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 2:05

Born Slippy wrote:Utter rubbish - tactics were pretty much perfect.
Certainly not.

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Post by It Must Be Love Tue 8 Sep - 2:06

Murray wasn't at his absolute best, but still playing and moving pretty well.
Anderson was just fecking ridiculous.

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 8 Sep - 2:06

Stan won't relish playing KA. His record against KA is awful.

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 2:07

LuvSports! wrote:Stan won't relish playing KA.
But Berdych in the SF would.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 2:09

KA will struggle to recover but, if he does, Stan is toast. Its the first time I can recall Andy going out of a tournament playing somewhere near his best tennis. Incredible display. Really hope he goes on to take the title.

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Post by It Must Be Love Tue 8 Sep - 2:09

summerblues wrote:
LuvSports! wrote:Stan won't relish playing KA.
But Berdych in the SF would.
Yeah true, especially after he beats Isn...
No.

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 2:09

It Must Be Love wrote:
summerblues wrote:
LuvSports! wrote:Stan won't relish playing KA.
But Berdych in the SF would.
Yeah true, especially after he beats Isn...
No.
LOL

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 2:10

All right, with that done: good luck Roger now.

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Post by temporary21 Tue 8 Sep - 2:10

Kev Wont take the title. That was 4 and a half hours. Stan alone looks a huge obstacle right now.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 8 Sep - 2:10

summerblues wrote:
Born Slippy wrote:Utter rubbish - tactics were pretty much perfect.
Certainly not.

Totally wrong.

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Post by It Must Be Love Tue 8 Sep - 2:13

Born Slippy wrote:
summerblues wrote:
Born Slippy wrote:Utter rubbish - tactics were pretty much perfect.
Certainly not.

Totally wrong.
Quality late night debate this.

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 8 Sep - 2:15

I think his tactics were too good. So good KA should have let him win.

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Post by banbrotam Tue 8 Sep - 2:15

Well played Anderson but I'm at my most hacked off with Andy, ever!!

His shots had absolutely no pep, simply because he's severely overplayed himself

After his intense (and successful) spring / early summer, WTF is he doing entering Washington not long after the Davis Cup heroics? Why on earth play at Cinci, when the initial plan was to skip it?

Probably, prepared the least well for this slam I can remember since his early days - no wonder he picked up a bug

This isn't an excuse, I just can't believe how daft he's been - he's 28 not 18

He needs to take a leaf our of Roger's book and let's hope he remembers for the remainder of this year and at least tries to get the O2 trophy

Very annoying

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Post by It Must Be Love Tue 8 Sep - 2:15

In all honestly Murray didn't do too much wrong. Given the Anderson he expected to play, he probably executed the correct gameplan well.

But that Anderson didn't turn up, and Murray was a bit too passive and couldn't move Anderson around as much as possible. His second serve was also a bit attackable, as we'd expect, and his slices didn't seem to trouble Kev.

So Murray didn't play badly, but he didn't play his best either. Anderson was beyond insane, he's the last player I'd expect to turn in a performance like that. He always seemed to be a decent server who plodded to R3/R4 of every slam before losing to a top player, a sh*t version of Berdych. Not tonight.

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 2:18

Born Slippy wrote:
summerblues wrote:
Born Slippy wrote:Utter rubbish - tactics were pretty much perfect.
Certainly not.

Totally wrong.
What makes you say that?

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 8 Sep - 2:18

Berdych. KA's everest. Even though he is taller. Maybe he is Mauna Kea as he is taller than Berd. Shut up.

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 2:20

Fed looking quite sharp early on.

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Post by banbrotam Tue 8 Sep - 2:20

Born Slippy wrote:KA will struggle to recover but, if he does, Stan is toast. Its the first time I can recall Andy going out of a tournament playing somewhere near his best tennis. Incredible display. Really hope he goes on to take the title.

He wasn't near his best. If he had he wouldn't have lost so many long rallies. His 'execution' shots that he delivered so well for that 5 month spell - right up to Montreal, were none existent. Granted, not many returns were missed, that he would normally have made, but there were enough in a close match like this

How many frigging break point opportunities does he need in matches at this event? He must have created 50 and taken about 5 of them!!!!

That's the form of a player, far too overcooked - who underestimated the impact of that important Davis Cup match and what effect it would have on the mind and body


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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 2:21

ooops.

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 2:23

Andy was not bad, he was quite decent, but not at his best and he continued to play way too passive. Cost him this time.

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 2:24

And I do not realize why he was being so passive as must have seen he was the most defensive playing player left in the draw, and that should have told him something.

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Post by banbrotam Tue 8 Sep - 2:29

summerblues wrote:Andy was not bad, he was quite decent, but not at his best and he continued to play way too passive.  Cost him this time.


Exactly. He's inevitably going to be passive given his daft schedule before this event. He did well to put up a fight, but I'm still annoyed because there was no need for Washington and he should have had the sense to stick to his initial plan and pull out of Cincy - let Roger have the No.2, it's not that important to jeopardise another slam

The only thing I don't like about his 'new' coaches is that they seem to think that playing for the sake of it is the correct thing to do. It isn't

I hope he does nothing more than the two Masters events (not forgetting the Davis Cup) up to the O2 and I'd even favour him missing Paris

Masters / Masters Cups and Slams are far more important than ranking points, now

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Post by summerblues Tue 8 Sep - 3:02

Fed's match going as planned so far - no service breaks and Fed takes the 1st set TB 7:0.

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Post by laverfan Tue 8 Sep - 3:02

Murray should be sitting in stands on Arthur Ashe for a lesson on how to play TBs and big servers. Federer up 7-0 in first set TB takes it. OK

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