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by funnyExiledScot Wed 23 Mar - 9:14

I haven't seen it confirmed, and perhaps his latest injury has made them pause.

by tigertattie Wed 23 Mar - 11:30

Gilchrist to Toulon would be a great move for both him and Scotland! He'll learn a lot being there and it frees up the Edinburgh berth for Toolis to continue his development!

by MacKnocked-on Wed 23 Mar - 11:32

Glasgow tweeting they're about to announce some big news.....

by MacKnocked-on Wed 23 Mar - 11:36

Scott Cummings (3yrs) , James Malcolm (2yrs) and Nick Grigg (1yr) have all signed pro contracts

by Hazel Sapling Wed 23 Mar - 11:50

It's good news not big news! Hate the hyperbole. Malcolm should have got 3 years as well but overall happy.

Grigg played a lot of 7's and looked like a solid squad player against Leinster. May be able to show more next year but really this was the year for a centre/wing to break through with the World Cup and injuries depleting Glasgow.

by MacKnocked-on Wed 23 Mar - 11:57

Hazel Sapling wrote:It's good news not big news! Hate the hyperbole. Malcolm should have got 3 years as well but overall happy.

Grigg played a lot of 7's and looked like a solid squad player against Leinster. May be able to show more next year but really this was the year for a centre/wing to break through with the World Cup and injuries depleting Glasgow.

Yes quite. I still hold out hope for Junior to make the grade but, apart from Scotland 7s, he hasn't had much game time despite looking really good early season. For me he looks a more naturally dangerous attacker than Hughes and a good deal faster.

by **RDW** Wed 23 Mar - 12:02

That's Tovey confirmed as signing on loan from the Dragons.

The 26-year-old, who also has experience at full-back and centre, is a former Wales under-20 player who has spent the majority of his professional career with the Dragons.

Tovey spent two years with the Dragons Academy and made his professional debut against the Ospreys in April 2008. In May 2010 he was voted Young Player of the Year at the Welsh professional players awards.

The versatile back became the first ever Dragons player to get a try hat-trick in a competitive match, against Ulster in 2009, and then broke the record for points scored in a match against the Ospreys in the LV= Cup in January 2010 with two conversions and seven penalties to his name.

He had a brief spell at Cardiff Blues in season 2012/13 before returning to Dragons where he's ammassed 163 caps and 951 points.

So basically we got rid of our Scottish reserve 10 and replaced him with a Welsh one...

by Hazel Sapling Wed 23 Mar - 12:23

RDW_Scotland wrote:That's Tovey confirmed as signing on loan from the Dragons.

The 26-year-old, who also has experience at full-back and centre, is a former Wales under-20 player who has spent the majority of his professional career with the Dragons.

Tovey spent two years with the Dragons Academy and made his professional debut against the Ospreys in April 2008. In May 2010 he was voted Young Player of the Year at the Welsh professional players awards.

The versatile back became the first ever Dragons player to get a try hat-trick in a competitive match, against Ulster in 2009, and then broke the record for points scored in a match against the Ospreys in the LV= Cup in January 2010 with two conversions and seven penalties to his name.

He had a brief spell at Cardiff Blues in season 2012/13 before returning to Dragons where he's ammassed 163 caps and 951 points.

So basically we got rid of our Scottish reserve 10 and replaced him with a Welsh one...

In a vacuum it is a strange one. Probably needed though the way Tonks was playing. Whatever it is, Edinburgh struggle with 10's. First Heathcote then Tonks completely lost confidence and now look good for lower table Aviva sides. Weir will probably have a terrible season then get signed by Newcastle when they come back up to be the next Andy Goode!

by nickj Wed 23 Mar - 15:04

Just saw this. Tonks leaving had left the cupboard pretty bare. Does this mean Scott is out for the season and Burleigh's moving out to 12? Is Jade also injured or is this an indication Solly is packing him off soon too?

by **RDW** Wed 23 Mar - 15:11

nickj wrote:Just saw this. Tonks leaingn had left the cupboard pretty bare. Does this mean Scott is out for the season and Burleigh's moving out to 12? Is Jade also injured or is this an indication Solly is packing him off soon too?

Perhaps, but I'd probably keep Burleigh at 10 and have Beard at 12 for now at least. Bit of a risk chucking in a brand new 10 with 5 must win games to go - surely he'll just be cover?

Te Rure hasn't played all season!

by nickj Wed 23 Mar - 15:16

You're right, he must just be cover. It would be a heck of a risk actually playing him. He might be a WRU plant!

by funnyExiledScot Wed 23 Mar - 15:21

RDW_Scotland wrote:That's Tovey confirmed as signing on loan from the Dragons.

The 26-year-old, who also has experience at full-back and centre, is a former Wales under-20 player who has spent the majority of his professional career with the Dragons.

Tovey spent two years with the Dragons Academy and made his professional debut against the Ospreys in April 2008. In May 2010 he was voted Young Player of the Year at the Welsh professional players awards.

The versatile back became the first ever Dragons player to get a try hat-trick in a competitive match, against Ulster in 2009, and then broke the record for points scored in a match against the Ospreys in the LV= Cup in January 2010 with two conversions and seven penalties to his name.

He had a brief spell at Cardiff Blues in season 2012/13 before returning to Dragons where he's ammassed 163 caps and 951 points.

So basically we got rid of our Scottish reserve 10 and replaced him with a ~~Welsh~~ World Class one...

Amended for accuracy.

by funnyExiledScot Wed 23 Mar - 15:23

Tovey is a useful player actually. Good footballer. He hasn't managed to reach the levels predicted earlier in his career but he's a 10 that wants the ball in his hands. A useful contrast to Weir.

by tigertattie Wed 23 Mar - 17:19

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:That's Tovey confirmed as signing on loan from the Dragons.

The 26-year-old, who also has experience at full-back and centre, is a former Wales under-20 player who has spent the majority of his professional career with the Dragons.

Tovey spent two years with the Dragons Academy and made his professional debut against the Ospreys in April 2008. In May 2010 he was voted Young Player of the Year at the Welsh professional players awards.

The versatile back became the first ever Dragons player to get a try hat-trick in a competitive match, against Ulster in 2009, and then broke the record for points scored in a match against the Ospreys in the LV= Cup in January 2010 with two conversions and seven penalties to his name.

He had a brief spell at Cardiff Blues in season 2012/13 before returning to Dragons where he's ammassed 163 caps and 951 points.

So basically we got rid of our Scottish reserve 10 and replaced him with a ~~Welsh~~ World Class one...

Amended for accuracy.

He was born in Ayr?

by CraigS1874 Wed 23 Mar - 17:51

if anyone is interested the BUCS final between exeter and loughborough is live on RFU youtube with 2 Edinburgh schooled full backs, gavin parker the exeter full black is a very talented player already set up a try and scored a pen

by VinceWLB Wed 23 Mar - 21:50

funnyExiledScot wrote:Tovey is a useful player actually. Good footballer. He hasn't managed to reach the levels predicted earlier in his career but he's a 10 that wants the ball in his hands. A useful contrast to Weir.

Agreed, very good player and a useful addition, imo. Sorry to say but it could well be a better signing than Weir.
Also, he is the quickest kicker i have ever seen, wont waste any time lol.

by **RiscaGame** Wed 23 Mar - 22:29

VinceWLB wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Tovey is a useful player actually. Good footballer. He hasn't managed to reach the levels predicted earlier in his career but he's a 10 that wants the ball in his hands. A useful contrast to Weir.

Agreed, very good player and a useful addition, imo. Sorry to say but it could well be a better signing than Weir.
Also, he is the quickest kicker i have ever seen, wont waste any time lol.

Really short run up too Very Happy

Hope he gets signed on next season. Be an excuse to travel from Lossiemouth down then too.

by **George Carlin** Thu 24 Mar - 6:29

This is actually a very good signing for Edinburgh - I just assumed that it wasn't Tovey they were talking about but some academy kid.
Tovey is the rareist of all things in Wales - no, not a salad - an underrated player. Run

He is very consistent and his error count is low. He suffers from the usual curse of being a Welsh 10 whereby if you aren't the next Barry John the crowd will often be a bit disappointed with you.

I also think that Weir should be nervous about this.

by **RDW** Thu 24 Mar - 6:37

He's sent a goodbye message to the Dragons supporters so looks like he is off.

by **RiscaGame** Thu 24 Mar - 10:14

He's not coming back after this true quote

"I wanted the club to move forward but I think it's gone backwards over the last three years."

Well said Tov. Wish you were playing Sunday.

by **RDW** Thu 24 Mar - 10:20

RiscaGame wrote:He's not coming back after this true quote

"I wanted the club to move forward but I think it's gone backwards over the last three years."

Well said Tov. Wish you were playing Sunday.

To be fair, is he not just telling the truth?? Very Happy

by **RiscaGame** Thu 24 Mar - 10:22

I concur

by **RDW** Thu 24 Mar - 10:27

Edinburgh have more signing news this morning.

by funnyExiledScot Thu 24 Mar - 10:40

RiscaGame wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Tovey is a useful player actually. Good footballer. He hasn't managed to reach the levels predicted earlier in his career but he's a 10 that wants the ball in his hands. A useful contrast to Weir.

Agreed, very good player and a useful addition, imo. Sorry to say but it could well be a better signing than Weir.
Also, he is the quickest kicker i have ever seen, wont waste any time lol.

Really short run up too

Hope he gets signed on next season. Be an excuse to travel from Lossiemouth down then too.

Lossiemouth! I grew up in Forres just down the road from there. Lovely part of the world.

by funnyExiledScot Thu 24 Mar - 10:41

RDW_Scotland wrote:Edinburgh have more signing news this morning.

I've heard that Willie Le Roux wants to live in Edinburgh.....

by nickj Thu 24 Mar - 10:41

Junior Rasolea??

by **RDW** Thu 24 Mar - 10:43

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Edinburgh have more signing news this morning.

I've heard that Willie Le Roux wants to live in Edinburgh.....

Why would we need him when we have Glenn Bryce?

by funnyExiledScot Thu 24 Mar - 10:44

RDW_Scotland wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Edinburgh have more signing news this morning.

I've heard that Willie Le Roux wants to live in Edinburgh.....

Why would we need him when we have Glenn Bryce?

You always need back-up. Le Roux would presumably compete with Cuthbert for a slot on the bench.

by **RDW** Thu 24 Mar - 10:48

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Edinburgh have more signing news this morning.

I've heard that Willie Le Roux wants to live in Edinburgh.....

Why would we need him when we have Glenn Bryce?

You always need back-up. Le Roux would presumably compete with Cuthbert for a slot on the bench.

You're forgetting Blair Kinghorn!

I suppose we could do with 6N cover though.

by funnyExiledScot Thu 24 Mar - 10:52

RDW_Scotland wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Edinburgh have more signing news this morning.

I've heard that Willie Le Roux wants to live in Edinburgh.....

Why would we need him when we have Glenn Bryce?

You always need back-up. Le Roux would presumably compete with Cuthbert for a slot on the bench.

You're forgetting Blair Kinghorn!

I suppose we could do with 6N cover though.

I'm expecting Kinghorn to be at 10 next season. Weir will be dropped on health and safety reasons, as the fans in the standing area won't be safe from the aerial bombardment. He'll never keep his eye on the ball anyway with those burger vans so close to the pitch.

by **RiscaGame** Thu 24 Mar - 11:02

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Tovey is a useful player actually. Good footballer. He hasn't managed to reach the levels predicted earlier in his career but he's a 10 that wants the ball in his hands. A useful contrast to Weir.

Agreed, very good player and a useful addition, imo. Sorry to say but it could well be a better signing than Weir.
Also, he is the quickest kicker i have ever seen, wont waste any time lol.

Really short run up too

Hope he gets signed on next season. Be an excuse to travel from Lossiemouth down then too.

Lossiemouth! I grew up in Forres just down the road from there. Lovely part of the world.

It is. I have already done three years at Kinloss and Lossie and used to frequent Forres every Sat night.

by funnyExiledScot Thu 24 Mar - 11:29

RiscaGame wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Tovey is a useful player actually. Good footballer. He hasn't managed to reach the levels predicted earlier in his career but he's a 10 that wants the ball in his hands. A useful contrast to Weir.

Agreed, very good player and a useful addition, imo. Sorry to say but it could well be a better signing than Weir.
Also, he is the quickest kicker i have ever seen, wont waste any time lol.

Really short run up too

Hope he gets signed on next season. Be an excuse to travel from Lossiemouth down then too.

Lossiemouth! I grew up in Forres just down the road from there. Lovely part of the world.

It is. I have already done three years at Kinloss and Lossie and used to frequent Forres every Sat night.

I worked as a barman at the Kimberley Inn in Findhorn for close to 6 years. A night out in Forres is a wonderful thing. Three options in my day:

1. Mosset Tavern
2. Red Beastie
3. Carisbrook Hotel

Pros and cons to each. Mostly cons!

by **BigGee** Thu 24 Mar - 11:49

Fowles and Kennedy both sign on for another year. Solid but unspectacular I am afraid, hard to see either of these two helping to take Edinburgh to the next level. Maybe that kid playing for the U20s, Fraser, I think will get some game time. He has looked good.

by funnyExiledScot Thu 24 Mar - 11:51

BigGee wrote:Fowles and Kennedy both sign on for another year. Solid but unspectacular I am afraid, hard to see either of these two helping to take Edinburgh to the next level. Maybe that kid playing for the U20s, Fraser, I think will get some game time. He has looked good.

I suppose it means that Solomons is happy with the status quo in the scrum half department. Kennedy looked so promising initially but has failed to kick on. Solomons heavily structured game plan doesn't suit him at all.

by **RiscaGame** Thu 24 Mar - 12:04

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Tovey is a useful player actually. Good footballer. He hasn't managed to reach the levels predicted earlier in his career but he's a 10 that wants the ball in his hands. A useful contrast to Weir.

Agreed, very good player and a useful addition, imo. Sorry to say but it could well be a better signing than Weir.
Also, he is the quickest kicker i have ever seen, wont waste any time lol.

Really short run up too

Hope he gets signed on next season. Be an excuse to travel from Lossiemouth down then too.

Lossiemouth! I grew up in Forres just down the road from there. Lovely part of the world.

It is. I have already done three years at Kinloss and Lossie and used to frequent Forres every Sat night.

I worked as a barman at the Kimberley Inn in Findhorn for close to 6 years. A night out in Forres is a wonderful thing. Three options in my day:

1. Mosset Tavern
2. Red Beastie
3. Carisbrook Hotel

Pros and cons to each. Mostly cons!

Mosset we used to have a bit of trouble, being RAF. Quite liked the Beastie though.

by funnyExiledScot Thu 24 Mar - 12:12

The whole locals vs RAF thing used to really bother me. The RAF were absolutely vital to the local economy (as well as defending the country of course), certainly more so than the SNP knuckleheads in Forres who felt that the RAF were all "English" and therefore in need of a fight. I know which group I'd rather hang onto!

Not sure what it's like now that Kinloss is army.

by **RiscaGame** Thu 24 Mar - 12:42

Haven't really been through. Suspect there is less trouble though.

by VinceWLB Thu 24 Mar - 12:43

Looks like a good signing for Glasgow, can't say i'm 100% certain but i remember being very impressed by Sears-Duru during the World Cup. He is a beast and exactly the kind of players they need in the front 5.

by EST Thu 24 Mar - 13:05

VinceWLB wrote:Looks like a good signing for Glasgow, can't say i'm 100% certain but i remember being very impressed by Sears-Duru during the World Cup. He is a beast and exactly the kind of players they need in the front 5.

I have a friend involved in the Canada set up, a beast is exactly how he described him when I asked what he was like.

by EST Thu 24 Mar - 13:11

Regarding the Tovey move to Edinburgh, if that becomes permanent then thats a very good bit of business from them, he is at least on par with Weir.

With the signings that have been anounced, do we think that Kinghorn will be moving back to 10 next season? Bryce and Scholes both have the ability to play at 15.

by **RDW** Thu 24 Mar - 14:16

In other news, Edinburgh have tweeted to someone confirming that Nel has another year left on his contract! Yahoo

Apparently there was a 4 year option cause and Edinburgh initiated it (unsurprisingly)

by tigertattie Thu 24 Mar - 16:41

Hogg winning the 6ns player of the year and folk saying Billy V should have won has got me wondering!

Who has the hands of Stu Hogg?
Who has the ball carrying ability of Billy V?
Who has the tackling prowess of Jonny Gray?

CDP! Thats who!!!

Next year's 6ns player of the tournament!

by A Simply Mesmeric Try Thu 24 Mar - 19:50

Wow, lots of new signings.

I'll update the player thread when I get back from visiting my Brazilian in-laws. It's depressing how little exposure rugby gets over here. Nobody knew that the Brazilian national side beat the USA a few weeks ago. They didn't know the USA plays rugby either for that matter.

Anyway, I'd be interested to see which of these loan signings get a permanent contract (if any).
The Canadian Beast Djustice looks like a great prospect for the Great Unwashed so my money is on him.
Tovey is a good call with Tonks going to LI.

Next season looking interesting already from a squad perspective.

by jimbopip Thu 24 Mar - 20:11

Has Meatball gone from being no. 2 stand off at The Home of The Champions to No.3 stand off at The Home For The Bewildered?

by **RDW** Thu 24 Mar - 20:14

jimbopip wrote:Has Meatball gone from being no. 2 stand off at The Home of The Champions to No.3 stand off at The Home For The Bewildered?

You spent all day thinking that one up?

by jimbopip Thu 24 Mar - 20:18

OOh, touchy. Hug

Nah, I spent all day making arrangements to be at Scotstoun tomorrow.

Watching the champions in a very packed, very noisy stadium. Yahoo

If we make the final you should come along with us and see what it's like. You can bring your wedding photos, but only the ones I'm (fully clothed) in. Yes, both of them.

by **RDW** Fri 25 Mar - 10:38

Another Edinburgh player signing to be announced!

by **George Carlin** Fri 25 Mar - 10:39

RDW_Scotland wrote:Another Edinburgh player signing to be announced!

The tension is unbearable.

Which unwanted Glasgow player will it be this time?

by **RDW** Fri 25 Mar - 10:41

George Carlin wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Another Edinburgh player signing to be announced!
The tension is unbearable.

Which unwanted Glasgow player will it be this time?

I hear Stuart Hogg was looking to move to a much better city...

by **RDW** Fri 25 Mar - 11:52

Edinburgh Rugby today confirmed the signing of Western Force centre Solomoni ‘Junior’ Rasolea on a two-year deal.

The Brisbane-born 24-year-old represented Fiji in the World Rugby Under-20 Championship in 2010 and 2011, helping his side to sixth place at the latter tournament. Later that year he was selected for Australia 7s and played in the squads that competed in the London and Glasgow legs.

Since debuting for Super Rugby side Western Force, against Melbourne Rebels, in 2013, Rasolea has made 28 appearances in the Southern Hemisphere’s premier club competition, scoring 10 points through two tries.

On signing, Rasolea said: "I am really excited about arriving in Edinburgh and getting stuck into northern hemisphere rugby next season.

“I have heard great things about the PRO12 and am looking forward to joining up with the lads in the summer.

“I hope that my knowledge of Super Rugby will be a positive influence on the squad and it will be great to share playing ideas.

“I really enjoy getting my hands on the ball and enjoy the physical side of the game. It’s also going to be great to play with and against players from different playing backgrounds.

“Edinburgh is a beautiful city and it’s going to be a great experience for my family. My wife is from the UK and so she has explained about the weather!”

Head coach Alan Solomons said: "Junior is a talented young player who has established himself this season as a starter for the Western Force Super Rugby team.

“I am delighted that he has decided to join the club and have no doubt that he will play an important role in moving the club forward."

Edinburgh Rugby signings for the 2016/17 season

Rasolea’s moniker brings the total to 20 signings to the club for next season, a list which kicked off in early December 2015 with Scottish age grade back row Jamie Ritchie extending his contract for another three years.

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