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Post by McLaren Thu 03 Dec 2020, 8:31 pm

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Either that or the players are just really good. Wink
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Post by McLaren Sun 07 Feb 2021, 11:53 pm

Also. Koepka nope vomit
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Post by Plunky Mon 08 Feb 2021, 2:55 am

Response to covid varies hugely by state.  I have friends here in Massachusetts who normally go to Florida each year to avoid the New England winters. They haven't  gone this year because  they're not comfortable leaving  home (where masks are mandatory in public places) and heading to Florida where masks are not the norm.

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Post by I'm never wrong Mon 08 Feb 2021, 8:25 am

McLaren wrote:Can some of the Americans on here explain what is up with there being crowds at the golf and now I see the stadium is packed at the Super Bowl?
That stand might be packed but I believe the stadium in total only had about 25, 000 people including 7,500 health carers. I don't get it either Mac.

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Post by navyblueshorts Mon 08 Feb 2021, 10:54 am

McLaren wrote:Can some of the Americans on here explain what is up with there being crowds at the golf and now I see the stadium is packed at the Super Bowl?

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Look again, very closely, at this image...
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 08 Feb 2021, 11:10 am

Yeah there was only 25,000 at the Super Bowl in like a 65,000 seater stadium, then 30,000 cardboard cut outs.

Fantastic win by Koepka - superb final round from him. Spieth, a much better week and looks to be regaining some of his game (ranking in the top 5 in approach play is very promising)...but do think Schauffele will be bitterly disappointed to have not won that. Really should have closed it out
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Post by McLaren Mon 08 Feb 2021, 11:34 am

Go on then Navy, what am I missing?
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Post by navyblueshorts Mon 08 Feb 2021, 4:00 pm

McLaren wrote:Go on then Navy, what am I missing?
Hmm. Let me see. Could it be....the myriad of cardboard cutouts in that image?
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Post by navyblueshorts Mon 08 Feb 2021, 4:04 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Yeah there was only 25,000 at the Super Bowl in like a 65,000 seater stadium, then 30,000 cardboard cut outs.

Fantastic win by Koepka - superb final round from him. Spieth, a much better week and looks to be regaining some of his game (ranking in the top 5 in approach play is very promising)...but do think Schauffele will be bitterly disappointed to have not won that. Really should have closed it out
Yeah. Where did that come from? Pleased for Spieth - hope it heralds something like a proper return to form. Interesting that neither he nor Schauffele could break par for the final round - two of the worst final round scores.
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Post by beninho Mon 08 Feb 2021, 4:40 pm

Even when Spueth was good, I found it difficult to not like him. He seems decent enough.

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Post by McLaren Mon 08 Feb 2021, 6:18 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
McLaren wrote:Go on then Navy, what am I missing?
Hmm. Let me see. Could it be....the myriad of cardboard cutouts in that image?

Navy, I know some of them are cardboard cutouts. I watched some of it. It was still packed. Do you think even a half full stadium could worsen the spread of covid?
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Post by beninho Tue 09 Feb 2021, 9:37 am

25,000 at the superbowl. God knows when we will have anything similar here. Maybe the league Cup final in April or FA Cup in May?

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Post by navyblueshorts Tue 09 Feb 2021, 2:20 pm

McLaren wrote:
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McLaren wrote:Go on then Navy, what am I missing?
Hmm. Let me see. Could it be....the myriad of cardboard cutouts in that image?

Navy, I know some of them are cardboard cutouts. I watched some of it.  It was still packed. Do you think even a half full stadium could worsen the spread of covid?
It was not "packed". In answer to your Q re. covid risk, no, I'm not sure it would increase risk. Outside, distanced etc. Depends how people were managed going in/out etc etc and we don't know details. Not a hill I'll be dying on...
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Post by GPB Tue 09 Feb 2021, 6:05 pm

Captain Paddy out of the ATTPB event. Tested CV19 positive.,

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 13 Feb 2021, 8:42 pm

Spieth firmly in the hunt for the second week in a row, Berger playing nicely too.
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Post by McLaren Sat 13 Feb 2021, 9:21 pm

Is Spieth back?
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Post by GPB Sun 14 Feb 2021, 4:58 pm

Frankie M had a bad day on the course yesterday at Pebble Beach

On his first hole, he topped his tee ball and it only went 70 yds

On his 2nd hole, his caddie stood in the wrong spot and Frankie was assessed a two shot penalty

https://twitter.com/amandagolf59/status/1360653632929222658

https://twitter.com/alexmiceli/status/1360984917753139200

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Post by I'm never wrong Sun 14 Feb 2021, 7:14 pm

GPB - do you know where the caddie stood? Was he behind him on a putt?

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Post by navyblueshorts Sun 14 Feb 2021, 9:20 pm

GPB wrote:Frankie M had a bad day on the course yesterday at Pebble Beach

On his first hole, he topped his tee ball and it only went 70 yds

On his 2nd hole, his caddie stood in the wrong spot and Frankie was assessed a two shot penalty

https://twitter.com/amandagolf59/status/1360653632929222658

https://twitter.com/alexmiceli/status/1360984917753139200
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Post by McLaren Sun 14 Feb 2021, 9:33 pm

I had a period last year for a couple of weeks where I would hit a couple of tops per round, even when playing well. So weird.
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Post by McLaren Sun 14 Feb 2021, 11:14 pm

Am I the only one that doesn't get the Pebble hype? It has a few nice holes along the coast but overall the architecture and set up just don't do it for me.
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Post by McLaren Sun 14 Feb 2021, 11:16 pm

Another win for Berger, the unfashionable yong American.


Also did Lashley gouge the green after his 3 putt for double?#

And the other guy playing with Spieth lost a ball up a tree on 18th. Pretty unlucky.
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Post by McLaren Mon 15 Feb 2021, 11:20 am

A touch of the Fatprick Reed's about this one.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/golf/russell-knox-calls-rule-change-after-horrible-penalty-att-pebble-beach-pro-am-3134671
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 15 Feb 2021, 11:25 am

McLaren wrote:Another win for Berger, the unfashionable yong American.


Also did Lashley gouge the green after his 3 putt for double?#

And the other guy playing with Spieth lost a ball up a tree on 18th. Pretty unlucky.

Berger's rise up the rankings the past year has been pretty incredible, surely a contender for the Ryder Cup squad in the Autumn?
One of the more effortless 65's I've seen yesterday, he was superb. Lashley played well, but a shocker on 16, and the reaction was a bit childish I thought
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Post by Shotrock Mon 15 Feb 2021, 1:11 pm

Berger was pretty dominant yesterday. Compare his reaction and resolve to an OOB tee shot the last hole in the 3rd round to Lashley's childish behavior on 16. Perhaps it's just optics, but I do think that the hang dog look Bubba Watson and Spieth have every time they miss a 30 footer can't help their cause.

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Post by Shotrock Mon 15 Feb 2021, 1:22 pm

Mac - PB is certainly dramatic and requires a deft touch to many small greens and parts of greens ... but with benign weather it's not a difficult course for the professionals. Spyglass is harder.

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Post by I'm never wrong Tue 16 Feb 2021, 9:47 am

I'm looking at the field for the Genesis Invitational and I am wondering why Ian Poulter is not in the field. The event offers more FedEx points than a regular PGA Tour event. The entry criteria includes a section for the players who earnt the most FedEx points between The Greenbrier and WMPO. Matt Fitzpatrick and Brandt Snedeker are in under that category and they are lower ranked than Poulter. Only reasons I can think of is those positions have changed since cut off date, or he just didn't fancy playing. Don't think he is qualified for the WGC either.
I will be watching this event as I have actually been to the course.

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Post by GPB Tue 16 Feb 2021, 2:23 pm

The Genesis does not offer more FEDEX points than Pebble Beach, or Houston, or John Deere or any other regular PGATour event.

The winner will get 500 pts just like Berger got last week, and Koepka got for winning in Phoenix two weeks ago.

Genesis does however offer a few perks. Its an invitational, so the winner gets a 3 year exemption for the PGATour. There are also only 120 players in the field, so theoretically it is an easier cut to make (Top 65 and ties out of 120 players rather than 144 or 156 players). There are more top tier golfers playing LA so that somewhat mitigates the higher percentage of golfers making the cut.

Better field also means a better OWGR SoF Rating, so a high finish would give Poulter (or any other European) more World Ranking points for the Ryder Cup.

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Post by I'm never wrong Tue 16 Feb 2021, 3:21 pm

GPB wrote:The Genesis does not offer more FEDEX points than Pebble Beach, or Houston, or John Deere or any other regular PGATour event.

The winner will get 500 pts just like Berger got last week, and Koepka got for winning in Phoenix two weeks ago.

Ummmm...on the PGA Tour schedule it shows that the Genesis is worth 550 points and Pebble 500.

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Post by GPB Tue 16 Feb 2021, 4:55 pm

I'm never wrong wrote:
GPB wrote:The Genesis does not offer more FEDEX points than Pebble Beach, or Houston, or John Deere or any other regular PGATour event.

The winner will get 500 pts just like Berger got last week, and Koepka got for winning in Phoenix two weeks ago.

Ummmm...on the PGA Tour schedule it shows that the Genesis is worth 550 points and Pebble 500.

Hmm, you are correct. Must be new for 2021.

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Post by I'm never wrong Tue 16 Feb 2021, 7:42 pm

Rory McIlroy has been elected chair of the PGA Tour Players Advisory Council and will also sit on the PGA Tour Policy Board.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 22 Feb 2021, 9:03 pm

The Genesis was a great watch on Sunday night, Max Homa and Tony Finau both superb down the stretch and Homa getting it done on the second playoff hole. Shame for Sam Burns who’d led most of the event to finish one behind in the end
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Post by Shotrock Mon 22 Feb 2021, 11:32 pm

Agree. I watched a fair amount of that tournament, and I really enjoy the course, too. Poor Tony Finau can't seem to get the job done. I think he will eventually, but he'll need a pretty good cushion going into the final holes!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 23 Feb 2021, 10:50 am

Shotrock wrote:Agree. I watched a fair amount of that tournament, and I really enjoy the course, too. Poor Tony Finau can't seem to get the job done. I think he will eventually, but he'll need a pretty good cushion going into the final holes!

It was weird, because down the stretch in regulation he was superb, and holing those 5-10 foot putts he usually misses! But then come the playoff, he really should have got up and down for a birdie on the first playoff hole.

Do think it is going to happen for him soon...surely just some variance. He's clearly one of the better golfers around, and in contention every other week!
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Post by McLaren Tue 23 Feb 2021, 11:57 am

Glad to see Homa win again. Have been a fan of his since seeing him on the NLU youtube channel.

This is quite cool. Max plays the course where he played as a kid with the NLU guys.






Also played his high school course with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCuXMQ0SkM8

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Post by ralphjohn69 Tue 23 Feb 2021, 7:59 pm

No Tiger at The Masters then, indeed it looks like we'll be lucky to see him playing again in any capacity after this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/56172067

In fact from some of the pictures I've seen of the car he's lucky to be alive. Shocked Shocked


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Post by McLaren Tue 23 Feb 2021, 8:00 pm

Game over for Tiger. Very sad. Hopefully not life changing.
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Post by ralphjohn69 Tue 23 Feb 2021, 8:04 pm

McLaren wrote:Game over for Tiger. Very sad. Hopefully not life changing.

Would be amazed if this isn't career ending. I'm no Woods fan but this would be a very sad way for his career to finish.

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Post by beninho Tue 23 Feb 2021, 8:10 pm

The guy who looked high on prescription medication and has form of driving whike under the influence, has crashed? No way..

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Post by owen10ozzy Tue 23 Feb 2021, 8:15 pm

Really Beninho...

1) Pure speculation from yourself linking the two..

2) Rather crass at the best of times let alone in the immediate aftermath

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Post by McLaren Tue 23 Feb 2021, 8:19 pm

Helicopter shot shows no sign of braking. I am inclined to think he passed out at the wheel.


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Post by Shotrock Tue 23 Feb 2021, 8:20 pm

Tiger can't afford a driver?

Oh boy.

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Post by McLaren Tue 23 Feb 2021, 8:22 pm

Feeling pretty shaky after hearing this news. Horrible times.
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Post by beninho Tue 23 Feb 2021, 8:30 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Really Beninho...

1) Pure speculation from yourself linking the two..

2) Rather crass at the best of times let alone in the immediate aftermath

Yeo really. I'm sure I'm not tge only person in the world thinking it.

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Post by McLaren Tue 23 Feb 2021, 8:33 pm

Police are currently saying this is just being treated as a bad accident at this point. No talk of DUI at this time.

Hopefully Tigers people can get in quick and get the hospital to dispose of his blood samples.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 23 Feb 2021, 8:47 pm

He didn't look well on the broadcast on Sunday, in the midst of recovering from his latest surgery, so hopefully it is only a normal car crash...but wouldn't be shocked if there was a different reason

Good news is non life threatening injuries - but surgery on his legs suggests maybe broken?
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Post by McLaren Tue 23 Feb 2021, 9:08 pm

This is a somber image. A police officer removing Tiger's clubs and Frank from the scene of the accident.

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Post by McLaren Tue 23 Feb 2021, 9:25 pm

Doesn't rule out opioids but this from LA times.

Law enforcement sources who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter told The Times that Woods was traveling at a high rate of speed and lost control of the vehicle before crossing the center divider. Woods’ SUV rolled multiple times before coming to a halt. Officials have not revealed the cause of the crash.

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Post by Plunky Tue 23 Feb 2021, 11:33 pm

I read somewhere that he has a "compound fracture and shattered ankle" but was alert enough to ask first responders to contact his agent to retrieve his stuff from the wrecked car.

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Post by McLaren Tue 23 Feb 2021, 11:57 pm

Sadly that sounds career ending.
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Post by McLaren Wed 24 Feb 2021, 2:26 am

This latest Tiger story is just so mental, especially in the context of his other issues over the years. I just can't work out how we got from those halcyon days of the early 00's to here?

Don't know about anyone else but it is hard to sleep while thinking about Tiger.
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