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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 24 Feb 2021, 9:37 pm

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Duty281 wrote:I will edit misinformation that I consider disrespectful and insulting. If you can’t respect that, they’ll be changed more firmly.

Such censorship is disappointing, but unsurprising given the often over-zealous moderating on here. Little wonder so many posters have drifted away when fair discussion is discouraged and alternative points of view are policed.

Over such a sensitive subject, and with people on here likely to have known people who have died, I stand by it on this issue and find your need to make a dig at the site disappointing.

Any further complaints can be directed to my inbox. Further comments will be moderated. Dangerous misinformation, especially presented as fact, will be moderated. If you feel your liberties unjustly compromised, go shout out a window or something.

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Post by king_carlos Thu 16 Dec 2021, 2:40 pm

Derbymanc wrote:the issue for me is they're trying to state it's extremely dangerous with the infection rate but refusing to follow how it played out last time.

I know people that are ignoring it all because 'if it was that bad we'd be in lockdown'.

Sadly Bojo is playing to the audience so for the minute we're knackered.

Interesting read
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/omicron-tedros-adhanom-ghebreyesus-who-data-people-b1976071.html
That doesn't marry with my experience in Edinburgh just now I've got to say, Derby.

I run a small hospitality business that relies in large part on lunch trade from office workers. It had been steadily picking up again until the latest restrictions but has fallen off a cliff now.

To supplement my income after a proverbial storm in hospitality for nearly 2 years I've been doing a few shifts at a city centre restaurant that I trained at as a young chef. Cancellation emails are flowing in once again.

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Fri 17 Dec 2021, 10:28 am

I suspect last nights mauling might make BJ think again, nothing to lose now, the electorate have seen him for what he is, so he needs to do something that will earn him some brownie points with the public if not his MPs.
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Post by lostinwales Fri 17 Dec 2021, 10:54 am

I have read a few times that one of the biggest issues all the way through the pandemic is that the government have treated it as a political problem not the public health issue it most surely is.

So more crap in an attempt to shore up Johnson's political future which not enough people care about because they don't believe him.

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Mon 20 Dec 2021, 6:00 pm

I want to work at No. 10, getting paid for standing around chatting eating what I am sure is good cheese and drinking again probably good wine, and getting paid for it BECAUSE IT IS WORK!

Not a laptop being used, no note pads for minutes, must have perfect memories these No.10 staffers.

BJ says it was work, Raab says it was after a hard days work, it was just after Hancock had told everybody to keep their distance and minimise all social meets. AFTER WORK IS A SOCIAL MEET. Not illegal but against everything that the general public were being told to do.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Tue 21 Dec 2021, 12:03 pm

It only damages their credibility even further. The question for the Conservatives is how much longer they're prepared to let this man's administration harm the brand. He's done what they needed him to do, they've got their majority.

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Post by lostinwales Tue 21 Dec 2021, 12:27 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It only damages their credibility even further. The question for the Conservatives is how much longer they're prepared to let this man's administration harm the brand. He's done what they needed him to do, they've got their majority.

And this here is the fundamental problem. All that matters is the politics and the presentation, not the actual job they were elected to do. The main problem they are dealing with is their electability and their internal divisions not the health of the population.

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Tue 21 Dec 2021, 1:30 pm

Very good article in The Atlantic about BJ, giving some insights to how other PMs and Presidents (de Gaulle) have fared in comparable (just) situations

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/12/boris-johnson-has-lost-his-mojo/620957/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
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Post by doctor_grey Sun 20 Mar 2022, 1:57 pm

At least for now, most of the civilised world is trying to put Covid-19 behind them.  I think this has shown humanity at its best and worst.  There is no good way to summarise what this has meant to societies as a whole or down to people losing loved ones, the people who struggled on ventilators alone, or most people simply trying to get through.  Watching people slowly die, suffocating a little more day by day, has been heart wrenching.  It has left even a guy like me with another appreciation about life and, if I have to admit, a simmering anger which is not going away.  

For me, the saddest part was seeing how politicised this became.  People with no shame, values, ethincs, anything, making something out of a worldwide tragedy.  I don't believe this is entirely out of order:  I remember my first visit to Dachau, the embodiment of the worst of mankind, hell if it exists, and coming unglued when I saw the ironwork simply saying 'Never Again'.  That shaped my entire life and guided me through everything I have ever done including my little bit during the worst of Covid.

So, to you, my invisible friends, I wish strength, family, and health.  And for most of you, a Rugby season to never forget.

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Post by doctor_grey Thu 02 Jun 2022, 4:55 pm

After two plus years of ducking and dodging Covid, it finally broke through our defenses and got into our house.  My wife and I both infected.  Everyone else is on high mask alert.  Now we will see what two vaccinations plus two boosters can do to keep it mostly under control.  

My wife tested positive initially on Sunday (that's my birthday - Hey honey, happy birthday!  I now have the disease which has killed more people than anything since WW2 and can give to you as a present.).  Thanks, love.  
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I tested positive on Tuesday.  My wife had one bad day but looks great now.  Me?  I always look like sh!t but in context, not too bad overall.  Just a heavy cold for now.  

And where did it come from?  A woman who works with my wife who - knowingly - came into work with Covid after a flight home from Florida, also after testing positive.  Some people are effing braindead.  Some are worse.  Since she didn't give a tuppence about anyone else, what would have happened if she gave it to someone older and not in very good baseline health?

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Post by jimbopip Thu 02 Jun 2022, 6:30 pm

Hey Doc, chin up :at least covid won't make you look like Poopie. Erm... that's all I've got.

Mrs Pip and I are both double vaccinated and boosted: we recently tested positive and if it hadn't been for herself losing sense of taste and smell we would never have known.
Yes people are selfish and stupid. Get well soon.

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Post by alfie Fri 03 Jun 2022, 3:45 pm

Glad to hear your symptoms are mild , Doc. Get well soon...the Rugby board needs you at your best Smile

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Post by doctor_grey Thu 09 Jun 2022, 6:23 pm

jimbopip wrote:Hey Doc, chin up :at least covid won't make you look like Poopie. Erm... that's all I've got.

Mrs Pip and I are both double vaccinated and boosted: we recently tested positive and if it hadn't been for herself losing sense of taste and smell we would never have known.
Yes people are selfish and stupid. Get well soon.
That's all you've got????? I am home drooling all over everything, my nose running like a rip current, and coughing up orange-green things out of my lungs never previously observed by medical science. And that's all you got?

OK, it worked. Got it on the run, methinks.

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Post by doctor_grey Thu 09 Jun 2022, 6:24 pm

alfie wrote:Glad to hear your symptoms are mild , Doc. Get well soon...the Rugby board needs you at your best  Smile
Your bar is exceedingly low.....

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Post by lostinwales Mon 13 Jun 2022, 12:41 pm

Covid really is a bitch. Almost made it to 2.5 years after the start of the pandemic, but noooo. Wife tested positive Saturday, I tested positive Sunday and I have no idea about the boys yet but they are more tired than normal.

Oh joy. Not.

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Post by doctor_grey Thu 16 Jun 2022, 4:58 pm

lostinwales wrote:Covid really is a bitch. Almost made it to 2.5 years after the start of the pandemic, but noooo. Wife tested positive Saturday, I tested positive Sunday and I have no idea about the boys yet but they are more tired than normal.Oh joy. Not.
You just summed up Covid from start to finish! Covid is coming for all of us. I think the positivity rate numbers are much higher than officially reported since most people are now using at-home tests and kiss positive (and negative) results not making it into any type of national database. Hope you and the family get through it without anything remotely severe.

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Post by lostinwales Fri 17 Jun 2022, 5:08 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
lostinwales wrote:Covid really is a bitch. Almost made it to 2.5 years after the start of the pandemic, but noooo. Wife tested positive Saturday, I tested positive Sunday and I have no idea about the boys yet but they are more tired than normal.Oh joy. Not.
You just summed up Covid from start to finish!  Covid is coming for all of us.  I think the positivity rate numbers are much higher than officially reported since most people are now using at-home tests and kiss positive (and negative) results not making it into any type of national database.  Hope you and the family get through it without anything remotely severe.  

Cheers. It is going OK overall, like a heavy cold with some extras but you just get enough to see what it could be like if it was not for the vaccines, and that view is not pretty at all. We have tests left over from when they were free, but paying a couple of quid for a test is going to stop people doing it, and not making it easy to record positives is just a recipie for under reporting the infection rates, which, anecdotally, sound like they are getting bad again.

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