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Post by No 7&1/2 Mon 14 Mar 2022, 11:40 am

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France

France: Jaminet; Penaud, Fickou, Danty, Villiere; Ntamack, Dupont (capt); Baille, Marchand, Atonio, Woki, Willemse, Cros, Alldritt, Jelonch.

Replacements: Mauvaka, Gros, Haouas, Flament, Taofifenua, Cretin, Lucu, Ramos.

vs England

15. George Furbank

14. Freddie Steward

13. Joe Marchant

12. Henry Slade

11. Jack Nowell

10. Marcus Smith

9. Ben Youngs

1. Ellis Genge

2. Jamie George

3. Will Stuart

4. Maro Itoje

5. Nick Isiekwe

6. Courtney Lawes

7. Sam Underhill

8. Sam Simmonds

Finishers

16. Nic Dolly (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap)

17. Joe Marler

18. Kyle Sinckler

19. Ollie Chessum

20. Alex Dombrandt

21. Harry Randall

22. George Ford

23. Elliot Daly

Kick-off: 8:00pm

Referee: Jaco Peyper (SARU)

Assistant Referee 1: Mike Adamson (SRU)

Assistant Referee 2: Frank Murphy (IRFU)

TMO: Marius Jonker (SARU)


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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 19 Mar 2022, 7:23 pm

Is Jones position under threat with a dire performance and defeat today...or is he safe to the WC?

All the talk I keep hearing suggests he very safe in that role....

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Post by RiscaGame Sat 19 Mar 2022, 7:39 pm

Woodward calling an England v France semi final, that’s impossible? Brilliant punditry.

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Post by EnglishReign Sat 19 Mar 2022, 7:44 pm

A win here would be class, let’s see what the French are made of when it counts.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 7:45 pm

If they both win or finish runner up then win the quarters they can Risca?

If its a horrendous performance geordie and even the pack goes to pot the media knives will be out. Dont think he'd be able to hang on. I expect a strong and limited performance though and him to remain.

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Post by Heaf Sat 19 Mar 2022, 7:47 pm

RiscaGame wrote:Woodward calling an England v France semi final, that’s impossible? Brilliant punditry.

And LD saying England could finish 5th if they don't win ...

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 19 Mar 2022, 7:54 pm

Looking at France coming down the tunnel...wow they're up for this!!!

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:06 pm

Interesting start

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:06 pm

Not sure Woki s tackle technique there was strictly legal on Genge.

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Post by Heaf Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:09 pm

Not sure about that scrum pen either

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Post by Heaf Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:11 pm

How was he not off his feet there?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:11 pm

Heaf wrote:Not sure about that scrum pen either
Same as the first Ireland last week. Tight head s legs too far back. But we're looking weak without Curry at the breakdown.

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Post by Heaf Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:12 pm

Heaf wrote:Not sure about that scrum pen either

And neither was the French pundit ...

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:15 pm

Well I'd say that's probably game over already....

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:16 pm

Hope is dissipating. No threat on the ball without Dombrandt and Curry in the back row.

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Post by BigGee Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:16 pm

This could be a long night for England!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:19 pm

Why did we not attack off that advantage?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:20 pm

Ffs.

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Post by BigGee Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:20 pm

He is in trouble!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:22 pm

Nowell is awful there. Awful.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:22 pm

Terrible decision from the tmo.

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Post by BigGee Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:23 pm

Nowell is lucky there!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:23 pm

I'd be well annoyed the other way.

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Post by RDW Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:23 pm

That was a pretty terrible decision

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Post by Heaf Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:23 pm

Did Jonker give a decision in England's favour there - wow...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:24 pm

Oh good. We were making headway there. Pleased youngs gave them the ball back.

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Post by Heaf Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:25 pm

Poor by Furbank

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Post by Tramptastic Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:28 pm

Frances phase play in the forwards is relentless. The ball is being placed so far back that England can't get anywhere near it and the ruck speed accelerates as a result. Fabby.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:28 pm

Lol. Even Kay is doing my Ben Youngs Schtick now.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:29 pm

Feels like we get into a good position and then panic and make an error.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:31 pm

I'm not really understanding why Furbank is playing. All he's doing when reclaiming the ball (in field) is pass to genge.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:31 pm

What's the point in Steward going and winning the ball back when there's never anybody with him? He's going to get turned over a lot today unless we start working harder.

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Post by BigGee Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:32 pm

Nowell off in any case, hurt his wrist in that fall

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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:32 pm

England not exactly at the races right now.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:33 pm

That volley was comical...

Furbank was in a different postcode to the ball and only realised it very late. I rate him for Saints but he really seems to panic at international level.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:35 pm

So many forwards in the channel, Youngs is playing quick (or as quick as he's able) and that's twice in four phases he's had to pass around a forward who shouldn't be there.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:36 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:So many forwards in the channel, Youngs is playing quick (or as quick as he's able) and that's twice in four phases he's had to pass around a forward who shouldn't be there.
Yeah he's needs hooking at half time.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:40 pm

Hard to see from the angles but Antonio is always on his belly.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:41 pm

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formerly known as Sam wrote:So many forwards in the channel, Youngs is playing quick (or as quick as he's able) and that's twice in four phases he's had to pass around a forward who shouldn't be there.
Yeah he's needs hooking at half time.

Not really, his box kicking (bar the one shocker) has been good. It's not down to him the attack is faltering, the Randall and Smith combination has created nothing in the last two starts together so there's no magical answer on the bench. Also forwards wandering into the channel and getting in the way will hinder the happy sniping Randall more.

Around the 50 minutes mark when hopefully some of those big French forwards are starting to tire hope Randall can add some tempo.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:42 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Hard to see from the angles but Antonio is always on his belly.

You keep 23 stone upright with another 20 stone pushing from behind you.

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Post by Heaf Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:42 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Hard to see from the angles but Antonio is always on his belly.

The first scrum pen was 100% wrong

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:42 pm

Ahh that's bad by slade

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Post by king_carlos Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:42 pm

This tournament has shown us that change at 9 and 10 isn't some magic formula to fix the attack. It's been utter pish with Randall and Smith as well.

The England attack hasn't recovered from losing Mako and Billy's ability to get over the gain line against set defences.

For all the talk of the pack being good the performances of Ewels and Isiekwe have just reinforced how big a loss Kruis is.

I'd really like Quirke to get starts but the issue is elsewhere IMO.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:43 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
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formerly known as Sam wrote:So many forwards in the channel, Youngs is playing quick (or as quick as he's able) and that's twice in four phases he's had to pass around a forward who shouldn't be there.
Yeah he's needs hooking at half time.

Not really, his box kicking (bar the one shocker) has been good. It's not down to him the attack is faltering, the Randall and Smith combination has created nothing in the last two starts together so there's no magical answer on the bench. Also forwards wandering into the channel and getting in the way will hinder the happy sniping Randall more.

Around the 50 minutes mark when hopefully some of those big French forwards are starting to tire hope Randall can add some tempo.
Yeah but also as you say he's playing as fast as he can and it's too slow.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:44 pm

Marchant is growing into international rugby. It's great to see.

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Post by Heaf Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:44 pm

And when is Peyper going to ping one of the French lazy runners

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Post by BigGee Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:45 pm

That was a risky kick from Smith

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Post by king_carlos Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:45 pm

Oh Smith. He's so talented but that's utterly abysmal and handed them the opportunity.

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Post by BigGee Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:46 pm

The blue wave just kept coming!

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:46 pm

BigGee wrote:That was a risky kick from Smith

Second crossfield kick he's miscued. Wasn't as blatantly on as the Steward one but he can't be that imprecise.

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Post by Heaf Sat 19 Mar 2022, 8:46 pm

Surely that was a knock on?

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