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France vs England
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France
France: Jaminet; Penaud, Fickou, Danty, Villiere; Ntamack, Dupont (capt); Baille, Marchand, Atonio, Woki, Willemse, Cros, Alldritt, Jelonch.
Replacements: Mauvaka, Gros, Haouas, Flament, Taofifenua, Cretin, Lucu, Ramos.
vs England
15. George Furbank
14. Freddie Steward
13. Joe Marchant
12. Henry Slade
11. Jack Nowell
10. Marcus Smith
9. Ben Youngs
1. Ellis Genge
2. Jamie George
3. Will Stuart
4. Maro Itoje
5. Nick Isiekwe
6. Courtney Lawes
7. Sam Underhill
8. Sam Simmonds
Finishers
16. Nic Dolly (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap)
17. Joe Marler
18. Kyle Sinckler
19. Ollie Chessum
20. Alex Dombrandt
21. Harry Randall
22. George Ford
23. Elliot Daly
Kick-off: 8:00pm
Referee: Jaco Peyper (SARU)
Assistant Referee 1: Mike Adamson (SRU)
Assistant Referee 2: Frank Murphy (IRFU)
TMO: Marius Jonker (SARU)
As there's currently no thread:
France
France: Jaminet; Penaud, Fickou, Danty, Villiere; Ntamack, Dupont (capt); Baille, Marchand, Atonio, Woki, Willemse, Cros, Alldritt, Jelonch.
Replacements: Mauvaka, Gros, Haouas, Flament, Taofifenua, Cretin, Lucu, Ramos.
vs England
15. George Furbank
14. Freddie Steward
13. Joe Marchant
12. Henry Slade
11. Jack Nowell
10. Marcus Smith
9. Ben Youngs
1. Ellis Genge
2. Jamie George
3. Will Stuart
4. Maro Itoje
5. Nick Isiekwe
6. Courtney Lawes
7. Sam Underhill
8. Sam Simmonds
Finishers
16. Nic Dolly (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap)
17. Joe Marler
18. Kyle Sinckler
19. Ollie Chessum
20. Alex Dombrandt
21. Harry Randall
22. George Ford
23. Elliot Daly
Kick-off: 8:00pm
Referee: Jaco Peyper (SARU)
Assistant Referee 1: Mike Adamson (SRU)
Assistant Referee 2: Frank Murphy (IRFU)
TMO: Marius Jonker (SARU)
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No 7&1/2- Posts : 31383
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Re: France vs England
Surely a knock on?!
EnglishReign- Posts : 2040
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Re: France vs England
Ouch. Doesn't get better on second viewing either. Think Eddie will get Kinghorn on at half time...?
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Ouch. Doesn't get better on second viewing either. Think Eddie will get Kinghorn on at half time...?
king_carlos- Posts : 12804
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BigGee wrote:That was a risky kick from Smith
= Daft
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Re: France vs England
Think Jones needs to be bold and make subs at half time. Get Randall on get dombrandt on for Simmonds and get Chessum on for Isiekwe move Lawes to lock.
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Re: France vs England
England at the moment have no answer to France playing structure. you might say it is men against boys so far.
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EnglishReign wrote:Surely a knock on?!
Looked like it to me - France really don't need helping like that
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In my opinion we’re trying too hard to play like France. We’re actually doing pretty well at disrupting their play but then we don’t keep it simple when we run it back.
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Should have been a red for the clear out on Genge. It most other stadiums it would have been replayed on the big screens.... not in France though
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There looked to be several knock ons there that were worth a look
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There was a knock on and accidental offside in the lead up to that try but I’ve come to accept there will be match-defining decisions against England every week.
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No 7&1/2 wrote:Think Jones needs to be bold and make subs at half time. Get Randall on get dombrandt on for Simmonds and get Chessum on for Isiekwe move Lawes to lock.
I'd get Dombrandt on for Isiekwe, Lawes to lock. Subbing Simmonds this early with Underhill just back risks losing cover.
Randall for Youngs and Ford for Smith as well for me. I think England need pace at 9 and control at 10 with how brutal France are around the breakdown. Both starting halfbacks have been really poor.
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RDW wrote:There looked to be several knock ons there that were worth a look
Yep at least two for me
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You don't take your best fly half off though when you need to chase the game.king_carlos wrote:No 7&1/2 wrote:Think Jones needs to be bold and make subs at half time. Get Randall on get dombrandt on for Simmonds and get Chessum on for Isiekwe move Lawes to lock.
I'd get Dombrandt on for Isiekwe, Lawes to lock. Subbing Simmonds this early with Underhill just back risks losing cover.
Randall for Youngs and Ford for Smith as well for me. I think England need pace at 9 and control at 10 with how brutal France are around the breakdown. Both starting halfbacks have been really poor.
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And Nowell should have seen yellow and the one england turnover was hands on the ground.
it all evens out ( usually :-) )
it all evens out ( usually :-) )
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Tbf most for the turnovers have been hands on the floor. If the ref accepts that you play to it.TJ wrote:And Nowell should have seen yellow and the one england turnover was hands on the ground.
it all evens out ( usually :-) )
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It's all ok....EddIe will unleash his World Cup plans in the summer...France are a busted flush already......
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TJ wrote:And Nowell should have seen yellow and the one england turnover was hands on the ground.
it all evens out ( usually :-) )
Like the majority of Frances turnovers.
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GeordieFalcon wrote:It's all ok....EddIe will unleash his World Cup plans in the summer...France are a busted flush already......
Those plans that nobody can guess, even the players.
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nathan wrote:TJ wrote:And Nowell should have seen yellow and the one england turnover was hands on the ground.
it all evens out ( usually :-) )
Like the majority of Frances turnovers.
Seems the SH refs have an unusual interpretation ...
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No 7&1/2 wrote:You don't take your best fly half off though when you need to chase the game.king_carlos wrote:No 7&1/2 wrote:Think Jones needs to be bold and make subs at half time. Get Randall on get dombrandt on for Simmonds and get Chessum on for Isiekwe move Lawes to lock.
I'd get Dombrandt on for Isiekwe, Lawes to lock. Subbing Simmonds this early with Underhill just back risks losing cover.
Randall for Youngs and Ford for Smith as well for me. I think England need pace at 9 and control at 10 with how brutal France are around the breakdown. Both starting halfbacks have been really poor.
When his contribution has largely been taking it to the line regardless of others being in more space and a kick that makes 2022 Finn Russell look like Dan Carter had a baby with Wilkinson yon can.
I rate Smith and want him starting but he's still on a learning curve and has been poor.
Hopefully he can play to closer to his ability in the second half.
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Its our only hope with the backline as it is. Hopefully some pushover tries too!king_carlos wrote:No 7&1/2 wrote:You don't take your best fly half off though when you need to chase the game.king_carlos wrote:No 7&1/2 wrote:Think Jones needs to be bold and make subs at half time. Get Randall on get dombrandt on for Simmonds and get Chessum on for Isiekwe move Lawes to lock.
I'd get Dombrandt on for Isiekwe, Lawes to lock. Subbing Simmonds this early with Underhill just back risks losing cover.
Randall for Youngs and Ford for Smith as well for me. I think England need pace at 9 and control at 10 with how brutal France are around the breakdown. Both starting halfbacks have been really poor.
When his contribution has largely been taking it to the line regardless of others being in more space and a kick that makes 2022 Finn Russell look like Dan Carter had a baby with Wilkinson yon can.
I rate Smith and want him starting but he's still on a learning curve and has been poor.
Hopefully he can play to closer to his ability in the second half.
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England are missing some big carriers...Genge ( and Stuart actually)doing brilliant but he cant do it on his own....
We have too many lightweight speedsters
We have too many lightweight speedsters
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Shame there that Lawes had to check from the very basic pass.
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That knock on gets spotted obvs
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Great opportunity. Terrible touch finder. Poor lineout drill. No go forward against a set defence.
Sums up the tournament in many ways.
Sums up the tournament in many ways.
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Lovely finish
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Well that was pretty good
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Boy did England need that. Great line from Marchant. He's had a very good final 2 rounds.
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That's more like it
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What a line from Marchant....
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Great conversion. More like it.
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king_carlos wrote:Boy did England need that. Great line from Marchant. He's had a very good final 2 rounds.
Best me to it
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Marchant definitely looking better over the last two games
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Classy from Marchant and then we actually hit some offensive rucks. Neat finish by Steward to finish it off.
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A better box kick as well. Something clicking perhaps.
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Beautiful box kick from Youngs and Jaminet gets dumped into touch. Maybe that try is the confidence booster we need.
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4 good things on the bounce. Try, conversion, kick chase, lineout.
Just keep building that momentum.
Just keep building that momentum.
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Just let us play ref
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The nside ball can be a weapon but can't be that telegraphed.
Running an inside ball like that is just sending a runner into the drifting pillar from the previous ruck. That's u14s playing touch in the warmup type rugby. Abject.
Running an inside ball like that is just sending a runner into the drifting pillar from the previous ruck. That's u14s playing touch in the warmup type rugby. Abject.
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That's forward!,,
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Peyper couldn't spot a knock-on or a forward pass to save his life ... if it's France that is
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No 7&1/2 wrote:Jones back to not using subs again?
All about the WC....
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Well it's roll the dice time now.GeordieFalcon wrote:No 7&1/2 wrote:Jones back to not using subs again?
All about the WC....
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Looked like head knock for Isiekwe on one of those slow mos. Surprised he's not getting a HIA.
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Thats the game, congrats France. Obviously its Dupont that seals it.
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