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Post by doctor_grey Fri 07 Jun 2024, 10:36 pm

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"It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDIDawmeeI0

COYS

Northampton Saints v Bath Rugby 
Where: Twickenham Stadium
When:  Saturday 8th June 2024; 15:00 BST, 10:00 EDT
How do I watch: TNT 1/TNT Ultimate/Discovery +/ITV1/Fox Sports 2 (USA)
Referee: Christophe Ridley
Assistant Referees: Luke Pearce & Anthony Woodthorpe
TMO: Tom Foley

Northampton Saints Bath Rugby
George Furbank15Matt Gallagher
Tommy Freeman14Joe Cokanasiga
Burger Odendaal13Ollie Lawrence
Fraser Dingwall12Cameron Redpath
Ollie Sleightholme11Will Muir
Fin Smith10Finn Russell
Alex Mitchell9Ben Spencer
   
Alex Waller1Beno Obano
Curtis Langdon2Tom Dunn
Trevor Davison3Thomas du Toit
Alex Moon4Quinn Roux
Alex Coles5Charlie Ewels
Sir Courtney Lawes (c)6Ted Hill
Tom Pearson7Sam Underhill 
Juarno Augustus8Alfie Barbeary
   
Replacements:  
Sam Matavesi16Niall Annett
Emmanuel Iyogun17Juan Schoeman
Elliot Millar Mills18Will Stuart
Temo Mayanavanua19Elliott Stooke
Sam Graham20Josh Bayliss
Lewis Ludlam21Louis Schreuder
Tom James22Orlando Bailey
George Hendy23Miles Reid

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Post by carpet baboon Sat 08 Jun 2024, 4:56 pm

That was some game. Both were fantastic. Bath especially playing 60mins with 14

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 08 Jun 2024, 4:57 pm

Well played both teams. Fabulous effort from Bath down to 14.

Spencer, Underhill and Du Toit were magnificent.

Is Hendy a potential for an England call up later this year? Big, fast and elusive. Bit raw, but that was an impressive way to make up for his error


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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2024, 4:58 pm

Great game. Northampton seemed to lose their direction at 15-3. Bath nearly pinched it. Underhill was a titan. Great break from Hendy to clinch it.

Thought Bath should have had another penalty right at the end because the tackle was complete, then the ball was ripped.

Obano will be harbouring a feeling of guilt for quite a few months.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 08 Jun 2024, 5:01 pm

Seems a bit daft to give Hendy MOTM, he essentially gave a try away and was a replacement (seems a good lad though). It should really have gone to Underhill, but it never goes to a player on the losing side.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 08 Jun 2024, 5:07 pm

Cumbrian wrote:Seems a bit daft to give Hendy MOTM, he essentially gave a try away and was a replacement (seems a good lad though).  It should really have gone to Underhill, but it never goes to a player on the losing  side.

Agreed. Hendy did one good thing. Freeman was the best of the Saints bunch.

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 08 Jun 2024, 5:14 pm

Spencer surely HAS to tour

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 08 Jun 2024, 5:30 pm

Mr Bounce wrote:Spencer surely HAS to tour

He really should have been involved more over the last four or five years.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 08 Jun 2024, 5:31 pm

Cumbrian wrote:
Mr Bounce wrote:Spencer surely HAS to tour

He really should have been involved more over the last four or five years.

When he comes onto the international stage he doesn't really do much though.

Mitchell and JvP will tour. The third spot is open.

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Post by Geordie Sat 08 Jun 2024, 5:48 pm

Underhill should have Been MOTM by a country mile

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Post by Geordie Sat 08 Jun 2024, 5:52 pm

Mr Bounce wrote:Well played both teams. Fabulous effort from Bath down to 14.

Spencer, Underhill and Du Toit were magnificent.

Is Hendy a potential for an England call up later this year? Big, fast and elusive. Bit raw, but that was an impressive way to make up for his error

Bit early I think especially with Freeman and Sleightholme ahead...Freeman is a class act.

I could see Freeman and Feyi Waboso on the wings....that's a dangerous combo with strong defensive skills and high ball ability.
You can then change in Steaard and Furbank horses for Courses...unless Freeman becomes the main 15...he is a VERY good player.

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Post by Geordie Sat 08 Jun 2024, 6:05 pm

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 08 Jun 2024, 6:46 pm

Ok, this was orgasmic. Almost Rugbycoitus interruptus when Bath had the ball late on, but here we are. So happy for Ludlum, Waller, and Moon. And Lawes, of course. But really happy for the town of Northampton.

This seemed more similar to Saints games from the start of the season than at the middle or end. But championship teams will always have a Plan B when needed and Bath did a great job most of the game reigning in Saints attack.




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Post by Geordie Sat 08 Jun 2024, 8:23 pm

I think Spencer nullified Mitchell impressively Doc for the most part...and some of the hits Underhill put in...and Hill..kept you at bay.

BUT you kept going and over the season are worthy winners....strong team.

How will you replace Lawes?irreplaceable I think....but you have Iyogun and Haffar to replace Waller and you should be able to replace Ludlam. He was only on the bench gor the biggest game. Maybe Sam Graham you already have thw replacement

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 08 Jun 2024, 9:49 pm

Geordie wrote:I think Spencer nullified Mitchell impressively Doc for the most part...and some of the hits Underhill put in...and Hill..kept you at bay.

BUT you kept going and over the season are worthy winners....strong team.

How will you replace Lawes?irreplaceable I think....but you have Iyogun and Haffar to replace Waller and you should be able to replace Ludlam. He was only on the bench gor the biggest game.  Maybe Sam Graham you already have thw replacement
I agree, mate, thought Underhill was enormous.  Hill was very good as well.  He kept popping up on the wing which made me nervous.  Fortunately, the ball did not make it out there very much.  I agree Spencer was quite good, probably one the his best matches I have seen.  

Lawes can't be replaced and Ludlum is very hard to replace, which are the most critical player losses.  Losing one or the other could possibly be managed, but both is a challenge.  Ludlum has been coming back from injury and his playing time has been managed.

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Post by Geordie Sat 08 Jun 2024, 11:28 pm

I think Hill on the wing is a clear tactic of Cokasaniga has gone crashing through the middle. He is probably quicker than Cokasaniga.

I didn't realise Ludlum is coming back from injury...But is he a starter in that team if fit? Pearson probably the next elect and as mentioned Graham is the physical all back row player.
Next season many teams are losing some key players so will be fascinating...

But for the moment..well done Saints turned from an attacking team to an all round brutal side and deservedly won thw title.

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Post by Mr Bounce Sun 09 Jun 2024, 8:37 am

I wonder how many Saints actually know what town they're in this morning? I reckon that was some after party...

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 09 Jun 2024, 11:23 am

Could we see Coles make the switch to 6 more often as a Lawes replacement. He's mobile and runs good lines but might have the work on other areas like his breakdown. Saints are losing Moon at lock though and he's an understated loss, big man that has helped the tight exchanges where Saints have generally been weaker. Lockett will be promoted from th academy but another lock should be in the offing.

Saints are bringing in Aussie Josh Kemeny the 6ft4 Rebels backrow, presumably as a Ludlam replacement though he's more a specialist blindside than full backrow cover. As Geordie says Graham can offer that though.

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Post by doctor_grey Sun 09 Jun 2024, 12:33 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Could we see Coles make the switch to 6 more often as a Lawes replacement. He's mobile and runs good lines but might have the work on other areas like his breakdown. Saints are losing Moon at lock though and he's an understated loss, big man that has helped the tight exchanges where Saints have generally been weaker. Lockett will be promoted from th academy but another lock should be in the offing.

Saints are bringing in Aussie Josh Kemeny the 6ft4 Rebels backrow, presumably as a Ludlam replacement though he's more a specialist blindside than full backrow cover. As Geordie says Graham can offer that though.
Good points, Sam.  I think Coles is going to have to play the hybrid 6 position.  He hasn't had too much experience in games on the flank, but has finished some games there.  On the plus side for the last two years he won the club's overall fitness competition and has a motor which doesn't stop.  Lockett will be upgraded to the full squad and hasn't looked out of place at Premiership level in the chances he has had, but has some progress to make.  

Sam, thanks for reminding me - I keep forgetting about Kemeny.  For the last few weeks I wanted to watch a Rebels match to see how he gets on, and I keep forgetting.  Maybe this evening I can grab a pint and stream in a replay.  I know I have seen him in games some time ago but that was before he was linked to Saints and I didn't pay too much attention.

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