The Premiership Final - It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win.

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"It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDIDawmeeI0

COYS

Northampton Saints v Bath Rugby 
Where: Twickenham Stadium
When:  Saturday 8th June 2024; 15:00 BST, 10:00 EDT
How do I watch: TNT 1/TNT Ultimate/Discovery +/ITV1/Fox Sports 2 (USA)
Referee: Christophe Ridley
Assistant Referees: Luke Pearce & Anthony Woodthorpe
TMO: Tom Foley

Northampton Saints		Bath Rugby
George Furbank	15	Matt Gallagher
Tommy Freeman	14	Joe Cokanasiga
Burger Odendaal	13	Ollie Lawrence
Fraser Dingwall	12	Cameron Redpath
Ollie Sleightholme	11	Will Muir
Fin Smith	10	Finn Russell
Alex Mitchell	9	Ben Spencer
Alex Waller	1	Beno Obano
Curtis Langdon	2	Tom Dunn
Trevor Davison	3	Thomas du Toit
Alex Moon	4	Quinn Roux
Alex Coles	5	Charlie Ewels
Sir Courtney Lawes (c)	6	Ted Hill
Tom Pearson	7	Sam Underhill
Juarno Augustus	8	Alfie Barbeary
Replacements:
Sam Matavesi	16	Niall Annett
Emmanuel Iyogun	17	Juan Schoeman
Elliot Millar Mills	18	Will Stuart
Temo Mayanavanua	19	Elliott Stooke
Sam Graham	20	Josh Bayliss
Lewis Ludlam	21	Louis Schreuder
Tom James	22	Orlando Bailey
George Hendy	23	Miles Reid

tigertattie wrote:

Geordie wrote:Borthwick has some big decisions for the tour....

Just a summer tour. Can experiment to hearts content

Not really. There's certain factions in the media who were against him taking over and have been negative at every opportunity. The end of the 6N forced them to be quiet or enter delusion and claim the changes to attack were their ideas. If the summer tour goes badly they'll be calling for his head again. Borthwick would do with a really good summer tour to keep the doubters silent.

Coles is a lucky boy at the death of the half there. Straight off his feet and shoulder to head of Ted Hill at the breakdown. Could have been a second red.

I know the media are muppets but surely they aren’t expecting much vs New Zealand. Anyone calling for him to be binned if NZ win both games need to reevaluate thier rugby knowledge

Can it be checked over the half time

formerly known as Sam wrote:Coles is a lucky boy at the death of the half there. Straight off his feet and shoulder to head of Ted Hill at the breakdown. Could have been a second red.

Just a pen. Didn’t look like and contact to the head. He kinda just fell over him

formerly known as Sam wrote:Coles is a lucky boy at the death of the half there. Straight off his feet and shoulder to head of Ted Hill at the breakdown. Could have been a second red.

Think Bath can be genuinely aggrieved there, Hill was certainly holding his head and he doesn't seem like a player that would stay down unnecessarily.

tigertattie wrote:I know the media are muppets but surely they aren’t expecting much vs New Zealand. Anyone calling for him to be binned if NZ win both games need to reevaluate thier rugby knowledge

One member quit here due to his hatred of Borthwick's so don't be too sure

As I said earlier for me there's some big decisions on players just look at the options at wing, Back Row, Loosehead egc

If Ford doesn't go then your looking at Fin v Marcus...as I doubt Ford would come back.

For the neutral, that red card has killed a lot of the tension.

The game will only get interesting if Bath can get their noses in front. Or at least frustrate Saints, keeping it to a one score difference, so the bounce of a ball could decide the winner.

Geordie wrote:Can it be checked over the half time

I believe they can check up until play restarts after a stoppage so I guess so?

tigertattie wrote:I know the media are muppets but surely they aren’t expecting much vs New Zealand. Anyone calling for him to be binned if NZ win both games need to reevaluate thier rugby knowledge

Completely agree. I also think summer tour ideal time to take a good mix of experience and new caps.

Heaf wrote:

Geordie wrote:Can it be checked over the half time

I believe they can check up until play restarts after a stoppage so I guess so?

Do we mean this one?

https://x.com/weavers_shaun/status/1799454407903617466

Rugby Fan wrote:

Heaf wrote:

Geordie wrote:Can it be checked over the half time

I believe they can check up until play restarts after a stoppage so I guess so?

Do we mean this one?

https://x.com/weavers_shaun/status/1799454407903617466

Yup. Looks like he goes over and falls onto him. Not even sure if a shoulder hit anything

Good decision to take the shot at goal.

Finn did Fin like a kipper there

Underhill is a monster....

Geordie wrote:Underhill is a monster....

Hope he doesn't break himself for the summer! He's been outstanding today

tigertattie wrote:

Rugby Fan wrote:

Heaf wrote:

Geordie wrote:Can it be checked over the half time

I believe they can check up until play restarts after a stoppage so I guess so?

Do we mean this one?

https://x.com/weavers_shaun/status/1799454407903617466

Yup. Looks like he goes over and falls onto him. Not even sure if a shoulder hit anything

Looks like upper arm if anything after a couple of reviews. Clumsy, not malicious.

TMO can't review it as Bath take the penalty to end the half so play has resumed.

Underhill is just a brick wall on a spring! To quote Rocky "Whatever he hits, he destroys"

Agree with Healey that Hendy coming on makes that Saints backline more dangerous.

Spencer has owned Mitchell today

Geordie wrote:Spencer has owned Mitchell today

Yes. Mitchell has a habit of waiting and he so often gets caught out. Spencer has been awesome.

Oooohhhhh

Game back on!

This is brilliant!

Are Saints stronger now with Waller off and Iyogun on?

BOOM! Langdon was skittled.

Ffs. Underhill is just brutal

And Finn Russell has just done a worldly

Mr Bounce wrote:

Geordie wrote:Spencer has owned Mitchell today

Yes. Mitchell has a habit of waiting and he so often gets caught out. Spencer has been awesome.

Mitchell likes to challenge the defence so Spencer has just managed marked him and then got in his face. Can Spencer keep that up for the full 80? It's going to take a lot out of him.

Poor mistake by Hendy. Good kick by Spencer.

Then a mistake by Furbank and a quality 50/22 as Furbank is out of position.

Game is very much on.

Hope Langdon isn't serious...he was defo going to NZ

The number of caps that underhill has missed out on is crazy. Every time I see him play I just think he’s a fantastic flanker. Goodness knows why players were getting the nod over him

Northampton just don't seem to be able to put the game to bed.

Bath are superb

Cokasaniga has had a quiet game

I really think that Bath would have done well to bank a drop goal in one of these passages of play.

First line out bath got pinged for a squint throw. Sure dunne asked if all squint ones were going to be pinged. Well that one from saints was left alone.

Got to take the points, surely?

Trying to kick the ball out the ruck now. I was kinda neutral for this game and I’ve also liked saints but I want bath to win this now

I wonder how broken Fin Smith is?

That was idiotic from Mitchell. I'm all for ambition, but play the conditions...!

Heartbreaker! Hendy is a special talent!

That was an unbelievable break from Hendy

That’s criminal. Whichever bath player that pulled that static maul down needs to be docked a months wages

Hendy making up for his mistake in some style there.

Northampton elbow hits the ground and bath get penalised???

tigertattie wrote:Northampton elbow hits the ground and bath get penalised???

Yeah I was wondering that or did I see it wrong.

Geordie wrote:

tigertattie wrote:Northampton elbow hits the ground and bath get penalised???

Yeah I was wondering that or did I see it wrong.

Ridley has been, erm, sympathetic to saints all game. I’ve not seen a single 50/50 go to bath but I’ve seen some 80/20s going to saints

Drama! What a finish this is! A brilliant final.

I don't care who wins and I've no got no nails left what a game

Bath showed some Cajonnes In that game mind

Some game that.

Some really dodgy ref decisions but bath ultimately shot themselves in the foot on at least 3 occasions to hinder themselves

They deserve it on the balance of the season, but it has to be said that Northampton were mince for a lot of that.