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Post by d260005p Tue 19 Jul 2011, 3:44 pm

Guys,

After the anti-climax that was Klitshcko vs Haye, who do you think David Haye should fight next and why? I think he should go to the states, fight Arreola and/or Chambers to rebuild his clearly now damaged reputation and then grab a fight with Wladamir or Vitali before retiring. Or even still, should he just hang up his gloves after his lack-lusture, toe-breaking performance?

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Post by Union Cane Tue 19 Jul 2011, 3:45 pm

He'll fight the winner of Fury/Chisora, lose, then retire.
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 19 Jul 2011, 3:47 pm

Povetkin and Chagaev are fighting for his old strap. If Povetkin won he could be tempted to fight Haye as it would be a nice earner for him.
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Post by Rowley Tue 19 Jul 2011, 3:48 pm

Audley, it's the rematch we all want

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Post by Michaels, Sean Tue 19 Jul 2011, 3:49 pm

I think it's most likely that his next contest will be against 'The Cube'.
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Post by Super D Boon Tue 19 Jul 2011, 3:54 pm

I honestly think Haye has found his level. I think an immediate rematch with either K bro would end much the same. Either he learns a bigger game than just pot shotting in and out and relying heavily on his "Hayemaker" right hand or just shuts up shop.

Watched the Haye v Macca fight again last night and relaised that it wasn't the one sided mauling that people like to make out. Before Enzo was stopped he was looking quite sharp and boxing well behind the jab, caught Haye a good few times, showing better fundamentals. The problem was that Enzo reacts like Bambi on tranqulisers when he's tagged.

Can't see Haye wanting the likes of Arreola, Povetkin, Chambers to be honest. I think he'd win but they're tough jobs for no title.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 19 Jul 2011, 3:58 pm

Super D Boon wrote:I honestly think Haye has found his level. I think an immediate rematch with either K bro would end much the same. Either he learns a bigger game than just pot shotting in and out and relying heavily on his "Hayemaker" right hand or just shuts up shop.

Watched the Haye v Macca fight again last night and relaised that it wasn't the one sided mauling that people like to make out. Before Enzo was stopped he was looking quite sharp and boxing well behind the jab, caught Haye a good few times, showing better fundamentals. The problem was that Enzo reacts like Bambi on tranqulisers when he's tagged.

Can't see Haye wanting the likes of Arreola, Povetkin, Chambers to be honest. I think he'd win but they're tough jobs for no title.

Poetkin should have a title provided he can beat Chagaev now Wlad is super champ and the regular title is vacant and up for grabs in the Povetkin and Chagaev match up.
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Post by Rowley Tue 19 Jul 2011, 3:58 pm

D whilst I agree they are tough asks if Haye has any pretensions of not only sharing a ring with a K brother they are the sort of fights he simply has to take as they are capable of making him pay for the mistakes he makes but probably not as painfully or decisively as Wlad or Vitali will. Also a win over one or two of them would help his legacy at heavy because whilst I think he loses whenever he faces the brothers at least had he beaten a couple of the guys name his claims to be best of the rest would be strengthened somewhat, because think in the cold light of day his heavy record at the minute is sparce at best.

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Post by Super D Boon Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:03 pm

The trouble is would Haye want Povetkin for the "regular" belt? He still won't be the man with the WBA.

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Post by bhb001 Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:03 pm

.... Hollywood??

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Post by Rowley Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:08 pm

I think he needs to be realistic though D, lets face facts his reputation is at an all time low, he lost a lot of respect through his excuses and lack of grace and no matter what he may want to believe he performed little better than 90% of the fighters he so vocally dismissed before the fight. Couple that with the fact he will sell seriously less PPV's next time out on the back of Wlad and Audley he needs to realise his place in the grand scheme of things and if he has an opportunity to face a ranked opponent or fight for a belt he should take it in a heartbeat.

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Post by Scottrf Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:08 pm

Supergator.

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Post by bhb001 Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:15 pm

Audley lives in LA, doesn't he. Maybe they could do a buddy movie. You know, start off as friends who train together. They becomes to big for there boots, one starts to loose a couple of fights and they become best of enemies until they fight each other in a huge PPV fight. Then at the end we find it has been a clever con to take money of the public as they walk off together into the sunset. A bit far fetched, but that has never stopped Hollywood.

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Post by d260005p Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:35 pm

bhb001 wrote:Audley lives in LA, doesn't he. Maybe they could do a buddy movie. You know, start off as friends who train together. They becomes to big for there boots, one starts to loose a couple of fights and they become best of enemies until they fight each other in a huge PPV fight. Then at the end we find it has been a clever con to take money of the public as they walk off together into the sunset. A bit far fetched, but that has never stopped Hollywood.

Its not far fetched mate - that ACTUALLY happened Very Happy

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Post by Scottrf Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:35 pm

d260005p wrote:
bhb001 wrote:Audley lives in LA, doesn't he. Maybe they could do a buddy movie. You know, start off as friends who train together. They becomes to big for there boots, one starts to loose a couple of fights and they become best of enemies until they fight each other in a huge PPV fight. Then at the end we find it has been a clever con to take money of the public as they walk off together into the sunset. A bit far fetched, but that has never stopped Hollywood.

Its not far fetched mate - that ACTUALLY happened Very Happy
That was his joke...

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Post by Union Cane Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:39 pm

d260005p wrote:Its not far fetched mate - that ACTUALLY happened Very Happy

Christ on a bike...
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Post by d260005p Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:43 pm

Union Cane wrote:
d260005p wrote:Its not far fetched mate - that ACTUALLY happened Very Happy

Christ on a bike...

Anyone heard of Sarcasm? Smile

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Post by Scottrf Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:48 pm

Nice save.

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Post by d260005p Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:54 pm

Genuine Sarcasm negative saves there from myself. Thought you all had a dry sense of humour! Especially you Scotty! thumbsup

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Post by Union Cane Tue 19 Jul 2011, 4:55 pm

Do you want a bigger shovel mate?
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Post by d260005p Tue 19 Jul 2011, 5:04 pm

please - maybe ill find your sense of humour underground!

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Post by Union Cane Tue 19 Jul 2011, 5:09 pm

You'll struggle to be honest, I don't have one.

Oh no, hang on, that was you wasn't it.
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Post by d260005p Tue 19 Jul 2011, 5:11 pm

hahahahahaha quality. In all seriousness though, Mayweather or Pacquiao and why? Smile

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 19 Jul 2011, 5:13 pm

d260005p wrote:hahahahahaha quality. In all seriousness though, Mayweather or Pacquiao and why? Smile

What Mayweather? Their is 4 of them. Pac would beat 3/4 of them.
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Post by d260005p Tue 19 Jul 2011, 5:18 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
d260005p wrote:hahahahahaha quality. In all seriousness though, Mayweather or Pacquiao and why? Smile

What Mayweather? Their is 4 of them. Pac would beat 3/4 of them.

Floyd not the rest. Roger Mayweather in a drug battle?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 19 Jul 2011, 5:19 pm

d260005p wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:
d260005p wrote:hahahahahaha quality. In all seriousness though, Mayweather or Pacquiao and why? Smile

What Mayweather? Their is 4 of them. Pac would beat 3/4 of them.

Floyd not the rest. Roger Mayweather in a drug battle?

Drug fuelled Roger would destroy the lot of them and continue to eat Jinky Pacquiao and probably a ring post.
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Post by d260005p Tue 19 Jul 2011, 5:27 pm

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah Very Happy

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 19 Jul 2011, 5:37 pm

if he wants to rebuild his name he should go to the states fight Arreola as HBO will show it, IF he can beat him then he should dust off another yanks and then go for Vitali. But he needs to do a fight every three months if he is going to continue and Haye barely fights twice a year so it is doubtful

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Post by themadworldofjb Tue 19 Jul 2011, 7:12 pm

He should fight the winner of Chageav and Povetkin.

However if he follows the advice of Golden Boy and goes to America then perhaps fights against Arreola, Chambers or even Bermaine Stiverne or Seth Mitchell could be good little earners

IMO he is still the best heavyweight behind the K Bros
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 19 Jul 2011, 7:14 pm

themadworldofjb wrote:He should fight the winner of Chageav and Povetkin.

However if he follows the advice of Golden Boy and goes to America then perhaps fights against Arreola, Chambers or even Bermaine Stiverne or Seth Mitchell could be good little earners

IMO he is still the best heavyweight behind the K Bros

Not sure he would earn enough out of those fights to get Haye out of bed none of those guys are main event material.
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Post by themadworldofjb Tue 19 Jul 2011, 7:24 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
themadworldofjb wrote:He should fight the winner of Chageav and Povetkin.

However if he follows the advice of Golden Boy and goes to America then perhaps fights against Arreola, Chambers or even Bermaine Stiverne or Seth Mitchell could be good little earners

IMO he is still the best heavyweight behind the K Bros

Not sure he would earn enough out of those fights to get Haye out of bed none of those guys are main event material.

This is the point. If Haye truly loves boxing he'll be prepared to take less money in order to get himself a shot at a big payday vs Vitali. If he retires then we will know who he truly is.
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 19 Jul 2011, 7:25 pm

themadworldofjb wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:
themadworldofjb wrote:He should fight the winner of Chageav and Povetkin.

However if he follows the advice of Golden Boy and goes to America then perhaps fights against Arreola, Chambers or even Bermaine Stiverne or Seth Mitchell could be good little earners

IMO he is still the best heavyweight behind the K Bros

Not sure he would earn enough out of those fights to get Haye out of bed none of those guys are main event material.

This is the point. If Haye truly loves boxing he'll be prepared to take less money in order to get himself a shot at a big payday vs Vitali. If he retires then we will know who he truly is.

I don't see him taking lesser fights he would find it hard to motivate himself if their was relatively small cash on the line given his last couple of pay days.
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Post by eddyfightfan Wed 20 Jul 2011, 3:15 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
themadworldofjb wrote:He should fight the winner of Chageav and Povetkin.

However if he follows the advice of Golden Boy and goes to America then perhaps fights against Arreola, Chambers or even Bermaine Stiverne or Seth Mitchell could be good little earners

IMO he is still the best heavyweight behind the K Bros

Not sure he would earn enough out of those fights to get Haye out of bed none of those guys are main event material.


he should fight stiverne as he's WBC manatory challenger, then he would have earned his shot at vitali fair and square. i fancy stiverne as a hot future heavyweight when vitali and haye leave the scene, but think haye would beat him at this moment in time as he isnt the finished article. what a punch he has though.

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Post by WelshDevilRob Wed 20 Jul 2011, 3:25 pm

Is he definately planning on fighting on? Even if he is, I'd be shocked to see him fight again in 2011. But a fight in the US would be a good idea. He has links with Sauerland from the past so when Povetkin beats Chagaev, he could get hold of that belt again though Povetkin will be a tough fight for Haye.

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Post by eddyfightfan Wed 20 Jul 2011, 3:39 pm

i think wlad will be eyeing up povetkin if he wins and he offers more belts and a better acheivement for him. i actually thought povetkin was ducking wlad last year but read on boxrec today that his dad passed away and he had some issues to deal with. i dont mind fighters who do that- its better than a mitchell against katdis type performance then lots of excuses after. i think povetkin will be wlads toughest test and if anyone at the moment can knock him off the top its him.

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