Ireland v New Zealand 2nd Test Live Match Thread

[Pal Joey]

First topic message reminder :

Venue for the 2nd test: AMI Stadium (Addington) - formerly Rugby League Park Christchurch
Capacity: 26,000 incl. temporary seating
Weather http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2192362

Current forecast for Saturday evening is around 3 degrees C and light rain.

All Blacks: Israel Dagg, Zac Guildford, Conrad Smith, Sonny Bill Williams, Julian Savea, Dan Carter, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read, Richie McCaw (c), Adam Thomson, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Owen Franks, Andrew Hore, Tony Woodcock.

Reserves: Hika Elliot, Ben Franks, Sam Cane, Ali Williams, Piri Weepu, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith
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Irish team:
15 - Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)
14 - Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
13 - Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster) (capt)
12 - Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
11 - Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster)
10 - Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
9 - Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)
1 - Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster
2 - Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster)
3 - Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster)
4 - Dan Tuohy (Ballymena/Ulster)
5 - Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster)
6 - Kevin McLaughlin (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
7 - Sean O'Brien (Clontarf/Leinster)
8 - Jamie Heaslip (Naas/Leinster)

Replacements:

16 - Sean Cronin (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
17 - Declan Fitzpatrick (Dungannon/Ulster)
18 - Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster)
19 - Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster)
20 - Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster)
21 - Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster)
22 - Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster)

[rodders]

Focus on a 40 point defeat!! Coz it's coming...............I suggest we turn our back on the ridiculous "Haka" and do a litte bit of a warm up...just for to make them really angry like.........

[SecretFly]

You can also lose wheelers if the ref allows himself to judge the present on the past. If he believes he sees a weaker scrum over the course of a game then it'll take time for him to acknowledge the turn-around in fortunes.

Oops! Ref watching! Sorry.

[SecretFly]

We show nothing and think we're going to show nothing the next time.

We end up showing something and we think we're going to show nothing the next time.

We want the team to progress and get better but often we're not willing to engage in the practice ourselves.

Okay, realism hits the fan of course - but there is no reason why Ireland can't put it up to New Zealand again - because it wasn't just a gung-ho, mad-Irishman gig - although there was a spoonful or two of that flavour in there.

Nope, the side had learned from the heavy defeat and tactically turned up. Will New Zealand have new tactics to do another full blown assault on us - hmmm, if we keep composed and do exactly as we did last week, I can't see what the tactic will be - they tried everything.

Will they win? Probably - because afterall, our efforts were good but not enough - but if we can improve rather than retreat into our shell - game result is on.

[Mickado]

We weren’t dominated in the scrum save for when Loughney came on in the first test.

[Gretgael1]

The scrum wheeling thing is a lottery, you win some you lose some. We had chances after that so I can live with it.

Not 100% on the other one but if the ball was touched in flight by O'Brien then surely that puts the NZ chasers onside? Either way I think that's clutching at straws a bit.

We had sufficient chances to set up for the drop goal but got white line fever. NZ showed more composure than us, thats just the reality, in my view.

Apologies, you are quite right. I'm sure I must have meant before that and not after... at least I can't think of what chances we may have had after to which I may have been referring. I stand corrected .

No worries man

[John Cregan]

MrsP........is that P for Poite??

[MrsP]

MrsP........is that P for Poite??

[Standulstermen]

To be honest I don't have the time or patience to bother with idiotic posts and posters anymore. It's been fun chatting with you lads in the meantime but in reality it takes up too much time and isn't really fun anymore.

All the best.

[rodders]

Ah Stand don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, we'd miss you round here man.

If your offski, all the best mate

[SecretFly]

To be honest I don't have the time or patience to bother with idiotic posts and posters anymore. It's been fun chatting with you lads in the meantime but in reality it takes up too much time and isn't really fun anymore.

All the best.

Only take a break, Stand, and come back when the 'intensity' sensations ease again. It can be a manageable place if you keep away from the overly wrought threads as much as possible. And I'm finding that if I take breaks I can come back for small stints and enjoy it better

[Rava]

That's called the ageing process Fly. Happens to us all.

I agree though. Just stay away from threads that annoy

[kiakahaaotearoa]

Come back when Ireland finally beat the ABs. Don't want to miss that Stand. It may be this weekend.

[MrsP]

To be honest I don't have the time or patience to bother with idiotic posts and posters anymore. It's been fun chatting with you lads in the meantime but in reality it takes up too much time and isn't really fun anymore.

All the best.

[Notch]

God I hope so Kia. Our self-belief should be so high. This group of players has to believe in themselves at long last and end this hoodoo once and for all!

[Sin é]

Ah Stand don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, we'd miss you round here man.

If your offski, all the best mate

Ulster seems to be having a bit of a clearout here recently How many have 'moved on' ?

[rodders]

Once we beat the ABs and Uster win the HEC I'm outtahere too.... so enjoy my presence while you can because I won't be around very long by the looks of it.....

[kiakahaaotearoa]

Let's hope your lifetime is not so shortlived Rodders.

[rodders]

The bags are packed Kia

[kiakahaaotearoa]

Don't put anything you really need in there mate.

[The Boss]

Lads. Question for yas and this might sound incredibly stupid but as someone who doesn't know the intricacies of the rules was there anything to stop Sexton kicking for touch off the tee? As in if the decision was already made to kick for goal then surely it could have been interpreted as a wayward kick?

[MrsP]

Lads. Question for yas and this might sound incredibly stupid but as someone who doesn't know the intricacies of the rules was there anything to stop Sexton kicking for touch off the tee? As in if the decision was already made to kick for goal then surely it could have been interpreted as a wayward kick?

As far as I know that would have counted as a missed kick so there would be no line out.

The only thing he could have done would have been to manage to hit the posts and have a player gather it and score. Or maybe miss but allow a wing to gather it and make it look accidental?

[The Boss]

Thanking you MrsP. As I said I didn't have a notion but thought it might have been thinking outside the box haha.

[Duigers]

Lads. Question for yas and this might sound incredibly stupid but as someone who doesn't know the intricacies of the rules was there anything to stop Sexton kicking for touch off the tee? As in if the decision was already made to kick for goal then surely it could have been interpreted as a wayward kick?

As far as I know that would have counted as a missed kick so there would be no line out.

The only thing he could have done would have been to manage to hit the posts and have a player gather it and score. Or maybe miss but allow a wing to gather it and make it look accidental?

Not sure that is true MrsP... there used to be an English player back in the 80's called Marcus Rose who used to find touch from the tee... but then again perhaps they have changed the rules..

[brennomac]

Andy Irvine of Scotland went through a phase of touch kicking from the ground (they didn't have tees back then) in the 1970's - then they banned it because it taking so frigging long.,

[John Cregan]

To be honest I don't have the time or patience to bother with idiotic posts and posters anymore. It's been fun chatting with you lads in the meantime but in reality it takes up too much time and isn't really fun anymore.

All the best.

I only arrived on the Rugby Forum yesterday and seems like i've gotten rid of a regular......jeez Stand, that's a bit drastic................

[GunsGerms]

No din carter. We have a huge chance. Anyone know when the last time was that we played NZ and dc hasn't started?

[rodders]

Yeah no Carter and a few other changes by the sounds of it, Weepu on the bench and Hosea Gear at 11. McCaw at 8.

The ABs will be very, very strong regardless but no question about it, this is a massive opportunity to beat the best side in the world.

Believe

[Taylorman]

Believe

[blackcanelion]

New thread for the 3rd test:

https://www.606v2.com/t31361-ireland-vs-new-zealand-3rd-test

[nganboy]

We won a wc without him
Mind you we lost one without him too.
So clearly Carter makes no difference.

Note never lost a WC with Conrad on the field.

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