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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 14 Aug 2013, 6:21 pm

First topic message reminder :

We are just under three weeks away from the end of the window, when it slams shut, and none of the big names from the Premier League have gone anywhere. Suarez, Rooney, Bale could all leave, but the tables have turned and at least 2 of the 3 look likely to stay where they are. 

Will business slow down as the Premier League season starts this Saturday before a late flurry as panic sets in, squads are closer to confirmation and the window closes?

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 2:19 pm

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GSC wrote:I'd rather have Barry in all honesty. Parkers hype comes from the fact hes English and "gets stuck in".
Nah, theres a lot more to Parker than that. Julian Dicks got stuck in, I wouldnt have played him centre mid
I'll be honest, whenever I've seen him, I haven't seen a lot more. decent squad player but not much else
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 22 Aug 2013, 2:21 pm

Ive quite enjoyed watching Spurs fans turn their nose up at him, but before last season he was one of their best players and was easily ours for about 4 years in a row. Last year he actually played a more sedate role for Spurs, but it was decided his legs were gone rather than he just wasnt playing a swashbuckling role anymore. 

I also dont like Barry, it saddens me that he has won a Premier League medal

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 2:24 pm

I liked Barry at Villa, but when he went to City his game diminished. Parker on the other hand has been solid ever since he left Chelsea, and even at the Euros was still playing well. People really do love to jab their knives at people for no reason.

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Post by Crimey Thu 22 Aug 2013, 2:38 pm

Scott Parker is definitely better than Barry, he's a great little defensive midfielder with an underrated passing and attacking ability. He's much more mobile than Barry and offers more.

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 2:41 pm

I think the injuries cloud people's judgement on Parker, I thought that he+Gerrard was a fine partnership for England at the Euros. It was the forwards, wide players and CBs that didn't look good.

I also think that Jordan Henderson should be Parker's replacement in the England team. Get him moulded into the quintessential midfield general now, then have Wilshere the creative spark and Rodwell the bruiser. That threesome, properly trained up, grown, and experienced, could be very, very good.

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 2:46 pm

People ran rings around us in CM. partly why we never touched the ball
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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 2:53 pm

You are talking about the same Euros, right? The one where we were solid at CM but couldn't create a chance to save our lives?

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 2:55 pm

Where only 2 teams averaged less possession than us
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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 2:57 pm

All we did in that tournament is sit back, put 10 men behind the ball and hope we can win a FK or something

It was absolutely embarrassing as an England fan. Watching Italy in particular give us a footballing lesson.
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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:05 pm

You seem to be blaming Gerrard and Parker for that, Gerrard was the only England player to make the team of the tournament, he and Parker were very good in the middle.

The France game we should have lost.
The Sweden game we were lucky to win.
The Ukraine game we were lucky to win.
The Italy game we were lucky to get to penalties.

But none of that was on G+P, they were two of England's better players.

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:10 pm

It played to Parkers strengths perfectly. Run a lot, make some Tevez style sliding blocks, don't worry about keeping it.

Wasn't particularly hard to be one England's better players. They were mostly useless.

Outplayed by Italy and France is one thing, outplayed by the likes of Ukraine and Montenegro recently is just sad. I want an England team that's arrogant, not one that plays like a bunch of school kids meeting their idols
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:11 pm

God knows how 'Stevie G' got in that, look at the other names in there:

Khedira
Ozil
Pirlo
De Rossi
Alonso
Busquets
Xavi
Iniesta

Basically a selection of the best midfielders in the world, from the 3 best teams in the tournament. Plus Gerrard.

Thank God Terry didn't get in, that's all I can say.....

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:11 pm

A few of Stevies Hollywood passes came off I guess
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:12 pm

GSC wrote:It played to Parkers strengths perfectly. Run a lot, make some Tevez style sliding blocks, don't worry about keeping it.

Wasn't particularly hard to be one England's better players. They were mostly useless.

Outplayed by Italy and France is one thing, outplayed by the likes of Ukraine and Montenegro recently is just sad. I want an England team that's arrogant, not one that plays like a bunch of school kids meeting their idols
We've got the arrogance. Just not the ability or results to match.....

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:12 pm

A few?

Must of tried about 500 then to get that many successful!

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:14 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:We've got the arrogance.  Just not the ability or results to match.....
Haha, too true.

Bale's deal likely to go through on Friday, how long before Suarez follows suit? And Rooney goes to Chelsea?

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:14 pm

We don't play arrogant. We play scared. Afraid to try and win the game so we set up shop.
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:23 pm

Scared or just aware of our limitations??

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:24 pm

These limitations seem to crop up a lot more for England than they do at club level.
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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:34 pm

England vs Scotland was played like a PL game. When we come up against continental teams, we struggle mightily.

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:40 pm

Anelka retires
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:40 pm

GSC wrote:These limitations seem to crop up a lot more for England than they do at club level.
Think there may be a trust issue as, generally, our top players play at a club level that is, frankly, above that of the national side. As a consequence they don't play with the freedom they do for their club as, basically, they don't trust their team-mates not to screw it up.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:40 pm

GSC wrote:Anelka retires
His brothers will be heartbroken....,

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:42 pm

GSC wrote:Anelka retires
This could be interesting...

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:46 pm

Good thing they picked up Vydra then. Bit dickish from Anelka
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Post by Bull Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:48 pm

apparently it is due to a personal matter

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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:49 pm

GSC wrote:All we did in that tournament is sit back, put 10 men behind the ball and hope we can win a FK or something

It was absolutely embarrassing as an England fan. Watching Italy in particular give us a footballing lesson.
We should have won that game you know. Certainly had plenty of chances to win it.

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:52 pm

Would've been a travesty
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:52 pm

Yay, everyone's favourite jingo is here to talk up England's dire state....

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Post by Crimey Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:53 pm

Unfortunate for West Brom, ridiculous from Anelka.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:54 pm

*Searches memory*

Johnson had a good chance, Young had a brilliant chance, Rooney had a couple of decent ones, we should have had a penalty, and I think Parker had a half-chance from the edge of the box. Oh and Welbeck skimmed the bar I think.

England should have won that ya know. We'd have probably lost to Germany in the semis though.

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Post by Bull Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:55 pm

Arsenal and Liverpool are apparently interested in Arda Turan.

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:56 pm

I'd have been embarrassed to win that game as an England fan. Men against boys.
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Post by Crimey Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:56 pm

Bull wrote:Arsenal and Liverpool are apparently interested in Arda Turan.
Liverpool have been interested in Turan since the beginning of time.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 3:59 pm

Duty281 wrote:*Searches memory*

Johnson had a good chance, Young had a brilliant chance, Rooney had a couple of decent ones, we should have had a penalty, and I think Parker had a half-chance from the edge of the box. Oh and Welbeck skimmed the bar I think.

England should have won that ya know. We'd have probably lost to Germany in the semis though.
And now chuck in all Italy's half and missed chances to balance that lot out.......

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:01 pm

Crimey wrote:Unfortunate for West Brom, ridiculous from Anelka.
Unfortunate for my Fantasy football team as well

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:02 pm

Anelkas agent had died.

West Brom say he hasn't retired
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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:04 pm

Saying they've granted him compassionate leave, which sounds like code for "we hope he's coming back but we don't know"
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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:05 pm

Indeed. Isn't his brother his agent?

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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:06 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Duty281 wrote:*Searches memory*

Johnson had a good chance, Young had a brilliant chance, Rooney had a couple of decent ones, we should have had a penalty, and I think Parker had a half-chance from the edge of the box. Oh and Welbeck skimmed the bar I think.

England should have won that ya know. We'd have probably lost to Germany in the semis though.
And now chuck in all Italy's half and missed chances to balance that lot out.......
Oh yeah, Italy certainly deserved to win, but England also had plenty of chances to pinch it. A very valiant effort from England at that tournament, considering the change in coaching staff, and the injuries that England were suffering.

We have a brilliant chance next summer if our best players stay fit, our best chance since...well 1970 I guess.

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:08 pm

England have no chance next summer
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:16 pm

GSC wrote:England have no chance next summer
Only in Duty's deluded mind.....

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:23 pm

Okay, so Albion now need a striker.

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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:25 pm

The best chance we had of winning anything was last decade when we had genuine world class players, we now have about one.

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Post by GSC Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:26 pm

I hear Falcao could be available
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Post by Duty281 Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:26 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
GSC wrote:England have no chance next summer
Only in Duty's deluded optimistic mind.....
Fixed for you TopHat. thumbsup

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:36 pm

GSC wrote:I hear Falcao could be available
We've already had old has-been striker this summer thank you.

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Post by Crimey Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:43 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:
GSC wrote:I hear Falcao could be available
We've already had old has-been striker this summer thank you.
Changed your tune on Anelka I see.

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Post by Guest Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:50 pm

He screwed us, so screw him Laugh

He's not retired, so we'll have to see how it goes. He'll have some amends to make up if he has just had a wobble, but if there has been a death close to him, then he goes with our blessing.

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Post by Crimey Thu 22 Aug 2013, 4:58 pm

Scott Sinclair signs for West Brom on loan, with a view to a permanent deal. Good signing from West Brom, although it's another loan deal, expect that has to do with wages. I rate Sinclair and think Manchester City were silly not to use him, particularly when they really lacked width.

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