England v Aus - KO 14:30 Sat 17th NOV at HQ - Match Thread/Build Up etc....

[HERSH]

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Game 1: Eng v Fiji
Game 2: Eng v Aus
Game 3: Eng v SA
Game 4: Eng v NZ

England team to face Australia:

Alex Goode
Chris Ashton
Manusamoa Tuilagi
Brad Barritt
Charlie Sharples
Toby Flood
Danny Care
Joe Marler
Tom Youngs,
Dan Cole
Tom Palmer
Geoff Parling
Tom Johnson,
Chris Robshaw
Thomas Waldrom
Replacements: David Paice
David Wilson
Mako Vunipola
Joe Launchbury
Tom Wood
Ben Youngs
Owen Farrell
Mike Brown

[thebluesmancometh]

I just can't see england scoring the try needed now...

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

sporting twickers crowd....................

Shut up, perhaps they want to watch rugby, no sit waiting for a simple decision....

Mature response from a typical idiotic Leicester supporter. Suppose I couldn't expect much better.

Leave out the personal rubbish both of you

[nathan]

T. Youngs throwing has been good again

[nathan]

Oz 8 played that on the floor

[thebluesmancometh]

Brown worked that lovely, no pen for me!!

[Morgannwg]

Poor English crowd. Booing the better team and not applauding the Aus tries. And we're lead to believe that your fans are so much better.

[Full Credit]

What a crock! He ran straight into him.

[nathan]

Brown worked that lovely, no pen for me!!

Nor me!

Our execution has been poor in the red zone

[thebluesmancometh]

AGAIN, IN FRONT OF THE BALL CARRIER???? SA just scored a try from that, once the maul is engaged it's engaged it's a maul.

As I say that I see an Englishmen join the maul in front of the ball with noone in front so I will shut up now!!!

[thebluesmancometh]

Morg

Leave it out mate!!

[nathan]

Poor English crowd. Booing the better team and not applauding the Aus tries. And we're lead to believe that your fans are so much better.

Have a word mods...

[KickAndChase]

Gosh I'm gonna go back hide on the Scotland thread at this rate lads ...

We're from the same country , Scotland England & Wales ya'know. Support your mates!!! (To clarify, the U.K. is the official country, E,S & W are also called countries but the definition is different)

[thebluesmancometh]

Right don't take this the wrong way, but many people slated welsh players after the summer for their performances in Aus and said they shouldn't tour with the lions because of it, IMHO England have had exactly the same issues as Wales had in the summer, except the Welsh scrum did better and wales broke the line.

So where do we go from here in terms of the lions?

[tatterd]

Manu Tualagi - are you Toby Faletau in disguise? Butterfingers

[Breadvan]

Poor English crowd. Booing the better team and not applauding the Aus tries. And we're lead to believe that your fans are so much better.

Sounds (5Live) like some poor decission making and a lack of t-cup have cost us the game. Well done Aus tho....

[kiakahaaotearoa]

England have had territory and possession for most of this 10 minutes but have been unable to break the Wallabies. Exciting finish but England haven't looked like breaking Australia despite the possession. You have to give plaudits to the Wallaby defence.

[RogerLewis]

Poor English crowd. Booing the better team and not applauding the Aus tries. And we're lead to believe that your fans are so much better.

Have to agree with this.

English quick enough to take the Mick this morning.

Obviously England fans throught it would be a walkover because of the France result.

[Morgannwg]

Poor English crowd. Booing the better team and not applauding the Aus tries. And we're lead to believe that your fans are so much better.

Have a word mods...

All the gloating they've been doing over Wales' losses since the summer and now they decide it's unfair.

Well done Aus. Unlucky England, but still a decent team.

[nathan]

How was that not a last minute pen to England. Clearly the Oz player was holding on.

[KickAndChase]

Where we go for the lions? Draw it out of a hat lads, every time.

[thebluesmancometh]

Where we go for the lions? Draw it out of a hat lads, every time.

It's starting to look that way

[nathan]

Poor English crowd. Booing the better team and not applauding the Aus tries. And we're lead to believe that your fans are so much better.

Have a word mods...

All the gloating they've been doing over Wales' losses since the summer and now they decide it's unfair.

Well done Aus. Unlucky England, but still a decent team.

"they" isn't all England supporters, you know this....

[tatterd]

Well England beaten. But unlike some stupid posters on the Wales v Samoa thread last night (Duty281 and Pot Hale in particular) I'm not here to gloat. Lets just call it karma. I'll be content with a little smile on my face

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

Right don't take this the wrong way, but many people slated welsh players after the summer for their performances in Aus and said they shouldn't tour with the lions because of it, IMHO England have had exactly the same issues as Wales had in the summer, except the Welsh scrum did better and wales broke the line.

So where do we go from here in terms of the lions?

Pick whoever's on form after the 6N. Simple.

At the moment all 4 home nations sides are struggling to break the line against TRC defences, so all 4 need to work on quick ball, and option-taking.

[Pal Joey]

Commiserations me English mates.

Great win for us. It was all or nothing and they gave their all.
I was actually a little surprised at the ferocity of their commitment. Some huge efforts there.

England are not too bad a team at all either. Very dangerous with the ball but were unlucky at critical moments.
It was a very competitive game, Oz just had that little bit extra. Life goes on. Good luck next weekend.

[tigerleghorn]

England need a strong Captain who can gather the troops around him....oh, and tell his kicker when to take the points on offer!

Roger........Why?

[mbernz]

Deserved win for the Aussies, they had us beat in the forwards and better tactics from the backs. Not miles away from England, but decision making was poor at times, breakdown remains an issue and although some of the forward subs were quality and need to start next week, a few of the subs in the backs weren't great and it's questionable why they were made.

[kiakahaaotearoa]

If you don't like gloating Morgan then I suggest you don't do the same. It's been a good close game and Australia deserve the victory. Let's leave it at that.

Australia looked awful last week but they picked themselves up. I think they are the best team in world rugby in overcoming disappointments.

[George Carlin]

Right don't take this the wrong way, but many people slated welsh players after the summer for their performances in Aus and said they shouldn't tour with the lions because of it, IMHO England have had exactly the same issues as Wales had in the summer, except the Welsh scrum did better and wales broke the line.

So where do we go from here in terms of the lions?

Scotland just dominated the second half against the Saffers and if they'd elected to kick for goal with each of their penalities (and kicked them, of course), they'd have won. Stupid and an utterly missed opportunity, but it all bodes well for the Lions.

But tonight is proof, if ever it's needed, that we aren't going to win the series by basing a team primarily round any one country.

[tatterd]

How was that not a last minute pen to England. Clearly the Oz player was holding on.

because it wasn't

[AlastairW]

Want to sell the ability to pass and catch a ball. Marler had a shocker, better team won for sure. Well played Australia.

England couldn't seem to string together the basics needed, when Australia hardly fumbled a pass all game.

[thebluesmancometh]

Unlucky England, for me just made the wrong decisions at the wrong time, and the Aus were far hungrier (Ive said that about a lot of teams recently, not used to seeing it at int level)

Aus played near the perfrct game whereas England weren't at their best by a long shot, but don't feel too disheartened...

YOU COULD BE WELSH

[Coltnet]

Taught a lesson on tactics there I think!

[Morgannwg]

Well I must say I'm a much happier person now. As you know my team are gash but I knew an England loss would turn my frown.... upside down! Supporting two teams always; Wales and anyone playing ENGLAND.

Now your fans need to show the Wallabies some respect, something you haven't done in a long time.

[EngInAuck]

So Close .... But yet so far.

Staying positive , what about the Vunapolia Collision !

Oz Defiantly were the better team , England will learn.

[EngInAuck]

Well I must say I'm a much happier person now. As you know my team are gash but I knew an England loss would turn my frown.... upside down! Supporting two teams always; Wales and anyone playing ENGLAND.

Now your fans need to show the Wallabies some respect, something you haven't done in a long time.

[tigerleghorn]

Well I must say I'm a much happier person now. As you know my team are gash but I knew an England loss would turn my frown.... upside down! Supporting two teams always; Wales and anyone playing ENGLAND.

Now your fans need to show the Wallabies some respect, something you haven't done in a long time.

Oh dear...How sad.

[Full Credit]

Regardless of the outcome I thought that was a pretty decent spectacle. Both sides played with some width and it was good to watch.

[Pot Hale]

Congrats Wallabies. A deserved win.

Deans now firmly in the driving seat for the Lions series next year.

[tatterd]

Well I must say I'm a much happier person now. As you know my team are gash but I knew an England loss would turn my frown.... upside down! Supporting two teams always; Wales and anyone playing ENGLAND.

Now your fans need to show the Wallabies some respect, something you haven't done in a long time.

Oh dear...How sad.

Agreed. But there are a few of his english equivalents on this forum!

[RogerLewis]

WE ARE ALL RUBBISH!!!

There, I said it.

[nathan]

Well I must say I'm a much happier person now. As you know my team are gash but I knew an England loss would turn my frown.... upside down! Supporting two teams always; Wales and anyone playing ENGLAND.

Now your fans need to show the Wallabies some respect, something you haven't done in a long time.

Your asking people for respect?? Have you read what you've just posted?

[Morgannwg]

All eager to point the finger during the summer and criticise Wales. Now here we have a definite crippled Aus team, missing some world class players, their captain and playing away from home with a 2nd row they called out of retirement on the back of the longest possible season an international team could have. How could you not win?

Congrats to Aus. Backs against the wall again and they pull another one out of the hat. Their urgency and desire to win in the world of sport is unmatched.

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

Well I must say I'm a much happier person now. As you know my team are gash but I knew an England loss would turn my frown.... upside down! Supporting two teams always; Wales and anyone playing ENGLAND.

Now your fans need to show the Wallabies some respect, something you haven't done in a long time.

Schadenfreude. Sigh. As I said last night to several English fans, best enjoyed in private.

And as with last night, I reserve the right to look down on anyone petty enough to display it.

[tatterd]

WE ARE ALL RUBBISH!!!

There, I said it.

Sad but true Rog

[majesticimperialman]

England learnt a good lesson today. When given penalties in the opposition 22 take the 3 point kick at goal. Quick tap and go does not always work like we have seen today.

Well played Australia, and well played England for putting up a great fight.

[Mr Fishpaste]

What was the score? I've not been watching the match.

[Morgannwg]

Well I must say I'm a much happier person now. As you know my team are gash but I knew an England loss would turn my frown.... upside down! Supporting two teams always; Wales and anyone playing ENGLAND.

Now your fans need to show the Wallabies some respect, something you haven't done in a long time.

Schadenfreude. Sigh. As I said last night to several English fans, best enjoyed in private.

And as with last night, I reserve the right to look down on anyone petty enough to display it.

That was a joke tbh Pete. I would have liked an England win for my friends and for the Lions cause. Nice to see I got some bites though.

The part about England rugby fans disrespecting the Wallabies for over a year is true.

[tatterd]

Does this mean the French would hump England?

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

England learnt a good lesson today. When given penalties in the opposition 22 take the 3 point kick at goal. Quick tap and go does not always work like we have seen today.

Well played Australia, and well played England for putting up a great fight.

Scotland need to learn the same.

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