Eng v Aus match thread + build up

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Tue 29 Oct 2013, 11:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

Chance to chat about the game.
I think it will be a real cracker with England to take it by around 8 points or more.
I know every game is important but the management must have this penciled in as a must win because they can win it if they play it right.

by GunsGerms Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:57 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Guns- seriously are you having a laugh mate..

This is the first game of the AI's- you cant tell a thing from this.. BUt England coming on storing anyway

No Im not. Why do England always look clueless in posession? Dont they do any drill?

by Full Credit Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:58 pm

Clancy obviously decided who was going to win this match before kickoff.

by Hood83 Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:58 pm

Terrible reffing, Farrell was clearly away for a 80 metre romp to the line....

by butterfingers Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:58 pm

I have to agree there are a few question marks, but generally when I watch NZ play I am amazed by some non decisions especially at the breakdown so it's just nice to get some back for a change.

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:58 pm

Biltong wrote:
TJ wrote:Another shocker of a decision. Clear obstruction.
Apparantly not enough obstruction.

Never knew there are acceptable degrees of obstruction.

isn't it using common sense?

Like when a line out is never 100% straight etc yet isn't called?

by quinsforever Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:58 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:Blatant blatant blatant obstruction

mate your team are the biggest cheats in world rugby bar none so i love it when you blame the ref. absolutely cracks me up

by Feckless Rogue Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:58 pm

Jaysus GE, New Zealand are the masters of that sort of "smart" play. Streets ahead of the rest of the world.

by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:59 pm

Clearly giving England endless penalties wasn't enough and now Clancy and his clowns are giving them
Tries instead. Just Apalling

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:59 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:Clearly giving England endless penalties wasn't enough and now Clancy and his clowns are giving them
Tries instead. Just Apalling

lol, are you really 40?

by GunsGerms Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:59 pm

Biltong wrote:
TJ wrote:Another shocker of a decision. Clear obstruction.
Apparantly not enough obstruction.

Never knew there are acceptable degrees of obstruction.

SA score tries using blockers all the time. Hartley hardly did anything. Oz D was terrible.

by Taylorman Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:59 pm

England have done well to come back and apply good pressure. Couple of cals going favourably (the out etc) but no denying the change in pressure. Oz are being strangled a bit. Still more left in Cooper so still the one to watch.

by quinsforever Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:00 pm

Hood83 wrote:Terrible reffing, Farrell was clearly away for a 80 metre romp to the line....

unfortunately he did blow the whistle immediately. hard to play advantage when you've already blown

by quinsforever Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:01 pm

try. love it. not grounded by the Ozzies

by quinsforever Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:02 pm

take it back...lol...touched down

by BamBam Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:02 pm

nathan wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:Clearly giving England endless penalties wasn't enough and now Clancy and his clowns are giving them
Tries instead. Just Apalling
lol, are you really 40?

I think he thought that was the IQ field

by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:02 pm

Here they go. England's 16th and 17th men...

by quinsforever Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:02 pm

why does farrell persist with that dink kick?

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:02 pm

theres your classic cooper, fine line between brilliant and rubbish

by **Biltong** Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:03 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
Biltong wrote:
TJ wrote:Another shocker of a decision. Clear obstruction.
Apparantly not enough obstruction.

Never knew there are acceptable degrees of obstruction.
SA score tries using blockers all the time. Hartley hardly did anything. Oz D was terrible.

you're thinking of someone else mate.

by BamBam Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:03 pm

Lawes has been very ineffective .. Maybe get Attwood on for some bulk

by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:03 pm

I hate whinging about refs but the bad decisions have slanted this game hugely. If England win this one then Aus can rightly feel robbed. ruined the game as the best side are behind

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:04 pm

TJ wrote:I hate whinging about refs but the bad decisions have slanted this game hugely. If England win this one then Aus can rightly feel robbed. ruined the game as the best side are behind

But the last 10 minutes they havent been the best side. Aus have missed two kicks now.

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:04 pm

Best thing if this is the final score we can hear all about how good England are from their fans Hug

Words like dominated and ran rings around them will be spun picard

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:05 pm

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Best thing if this is the final score we can hear all about how good England are from their fans
Words like dominated and ran rings around them will be spun

and we don't have to wait till the final whistle to hear the same tripe from the welsh on here...

by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:05 pm

Australia forced to chase a game now that by rights they should be winning. Hence the "change in momentum".

England feeding on Australia's mistakes as they are forced
To play too much rugby

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:06 pm

Morgan put some weight on?

by butterfingers Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:06 pm

TJ wrote:I hate whinging about refs but the bad decisions have slanted this game hugely. If England win this one then Aus can rightly feel robbed. ruined the game as the best side are behind

Disagree, the team who have had plenty more time together and in their stride already are behind, we are far more inexperienced and as the game goes on we are gelling better and better.

by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:07 pm

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Best thing if this is the final score we can hear all about how good England are from their fans
Words like dominated and ran rings around them will be spun

That's right - the "pressure" England put on to keep Australia "pinned down" and Farrell's "scything run" through the defense.

by Taylorman Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:07 pm

oz making all sorts of mistakes now...

by quinsforever Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:07 pm

1st half decent ambition by Aus. 2nd half, really pleased with the hunger and ambition by Eng. last 15 mins are going to be awesome. just hope we dont try to strangle to game...2 more trys pls boys!!!

by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:08 pm

Aus have clearly created more. clearly the better side. Refs errors have gifted at least 14 pts which would destroy any team.

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:08 pm

clancy trying to even the mistakes up in this game

by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:09 pm

butterfingers wrote:
TJ wrote:I hate whinging about refs but the bad decisions have slanted this game hugely. If England win this one then Aus can rightly feel robbed. ruined the game as the best side are behind
Disagree, the team who have had plenty more time together and in their stride already are behind, we are far more inexperienced and as the game goes on we are gelling better and better.

They're only behind because of two absolute referee shockers - about which serious questions must be asked.

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:09 pm

This score line and the nature in which the two tries scored by England really puts into perspective the Lions result.

by BamBam Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:10 pm

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:This score line and the nature in which the two tries scored by England really puts into perspective the Lions result.

No it doesn't

by quinsforever Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:10 pm

BamBam wrote:Lawes has been very ineffective .. Maybe get Attwood on for some bulk

he has indeed been a bit quiet. pacing himself Smile

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:11 pm

Are England the best team in the world?

by quinsforever Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:11 pm

do refs blow for offside in the SH? just asking

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:11 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
TJ wrote:I hate whinging about refs but the bad decisions have slanted this game hugely. If England win this one then Aus can rightly feel robbed. ruined the game as the best side are behind
Disagree, the team who have had plenty more time together and in their stride already are behind, we are far more inexperienced and as the game goes on we are gelling better and better.
They're only behind because of two absolute referee shockers - about which serious questions must be asked.

lots of questions must of been asked about NZ over the years then, shame you haven't really spoken about those much. Strange that...

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:12 pm

was that a 10 minute penalty advantage?

by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:12 pm

Perfectly reasonable advantage

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:12 pm

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Are England the best team in the world?

No, third.

Where are Wales?

by quinsforever Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:12 pm

how long an f-ing advantage do you play?

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:12 pm

Absoulte disgusting booing from the Twickers crowd, should the IRB fine them like the England fans suggested for the Welsh?

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:13 pm

Pulling down a ruck on your line is legal now

by ospreysboyo Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:13 pm

No it wasn't, the advantage must have been played, Aus got over the gainline twice!!

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:14 pm

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Absoulte disgusting booing from the Twickers crowd, should the IRB fine them like the England fans suggested for the Welsh?

Did you speak to every single english fan to come up with that statement?

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:14 pm

Flippin hell clancy off side line not in action now?

by wales606 Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:14 pm

Awful from Australia, they have fallen apart in this second half

by BamBam Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:14 pm

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Absoulte disgusting booing from the Twickers crowd, should the IRB fine them like the England fans suggested for the Welsh?

Oh shut up

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