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NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS  
1 July 2017
KO: 19:35 NZST (8.35am BST)
WESTPAC Wellington Regional Stadium, Wellington

Live on Sky Sports HD

Referee: Jérôme Garcès (France)
ARs: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

39 Played 39
30 Won 6
3 Drawn 3
6 Lost 30
664 Points 360

B. Recent Form

24 June 2017
Eden Park, Auckland
30 – 15 to New Zealand

9 July 2005 
Eden Park, Auckland 
38 – 19 to New Zealand 

2 July 2005 
Westpac Stadium, Wellington 
48 – 18 to New Zealand

25 June 2005 
Lancaster Park, Christchurch 
21 – 3 to New Zealand

3 July 1993 
Eden Park, Auckland 
30 – 13 to New Zealand 

26 June 1993 
Athletic Park, Wellington 
7 – 20 to British & Irish Lions

12 June 1993 
Lancaster Park, Christchurch 
20 – 18 to New Zealand

16 July 1983 
Eden Park, Auckland 
38 – 6 to New Zealand

2 July 1983 
Carisbrook, Dunedin 
15 – 8 to New Zealand

18 June 1983 
Athletic Park (Wellington), Wellington 
9 – 0 to New Zealand

4 June 1983 
Lancaster Park, Christchurch 
16 – 12 to New Zealand

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NEW ZEALAND
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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:22 am

So very close there, excellent from Murray.
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:24 am

This is now a horrible conflict of interest. I want the Lions and the players to win, but do not want Gatland's abortion of a tour to be vindicated.
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Post by whocares Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:25 am

eirebilly wrote:
mid_gen wrote:No arguments with that red, total brain fade from SBW.

Would really like to get Te'o on and hang on to some possession...

I have to agree here, Teo would be perfect now that SBW is off but who goes off Sexton or Farrell? Farrell has his kicking boots on but Sexton is the more likely to unlock the AB defence...

ABs defense has been reading and negating Sexton moves quite well so far.

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Post by alfie Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:26 am

So level at HT.

Teo on would be good but you can't take Farrell off with kicking so important , surely ?

You'd think being one short must tell on the ABs eventually.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:29 am

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:This is now a horrible conflict of interest. I want the Lions and the players to win, but do not want Gatland's abortion of a tour to be vindicated.


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Post by Guest Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:32 am

16 v 14

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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:33 am

whocares wrote:
eirebilly wrote:
mid_gen wrote:No arguments with that red, total brain fade from SBW.

Would really like to get Te'o on and hang on to some possession...

I have to agree here, Teo would be perfect now that SBW is off but who goes off Sexton or Farrell? Farrell has his kicking boots on but Sexton is the more likely to unlock the AB defence...

ABs defense has been reading and negating Sexton moves quite well so far.

Its been a very forward dominated game so far so not much chance for Sexton or Farrell as yet but I feel that after half time the Lions will come out more attacking minded and Sexton will be key in that department. Really would have loved to see Biggar on the bench for this game.

Major concern is Williams' confidence and ability under the high ball, I would take him off and put Nowell on the wing with Watson at 15.
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Post by RDW Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:35 am

Horrible conditions nullifying the NZ attack, one man advantage - if we can't win now we never will!

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Post by Taylorman Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:38 am

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Also - the TMO is getting a bit big for his boots. He interjected multiple times and was still mouthing off as Garces walked towards SBW.

It's called wanting to make the correct decision rather than going off some knee jerk reaction as ...some tend to do.

Both Peyper and the TMO simply offered to show him the replay again to be sure.

Yes it was red but you seem to want to penalise everyone in sight.

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Post by whocares Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:39 am

Kudos to Warburton for making NZ working a bit more at the breakdown to get quick ball.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:42 am

Changes I would be making very soon to get the AB's on the back foot :

Lawes for AWJ
Te'o for Farrell
Nowell for Williams
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Post by RDW Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:43 am

Our discipline is terrible - if ABs had a decent kicker we would be in trouble by now

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Post by alfie Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:45 am

Giving the ABs too many chances to kick their points...

Replacements will be important : wonder when Webb will come into the game ?

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:46 am

Taylorman wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:Also - the TMO is getting a bit big for his boots. He interjected multiple times and was still mouthing off as Garces walked towards SBW.

It's called wanting to make the correct decision rather than going off some knee jerk reaction as ...some tend to do.

Both Peyper and the TMO simply offered to show him the replay again to be sure.

Yes it was red but you seem to want to penalise everyone in sight.

So Garces made a knee jerk reaction? Interesting.

Yes, I want to penalise everyone in sight. What a mature comment from our resident New Zealand apologist.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:47 am

Also - looks like the Lions will still lose this game. Moronic stuff.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:47 am

Replacements now Gatland for the love of god, get Lawes on at the very least.
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Post by Guest Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:51 am

Lions giving away a lot of penalties

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Post by whocares Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:51 am

Double standards from Ayoub here...

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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:51 am

Unbelievably stupid from the Lions. A man advantage and still unable to maintain discipline and composure.
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Post by RDW Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:51 am

Not very consistent to TMO that but not the earlier one against the Lions

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Post by Engine#4 Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:52 am

Not late when Taylor does it is it?

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Post by alfie Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:52 am

Good from the ref. But Lions undermining their chances by constantly conceding penalties.

Just as well Barrett is having a mixed day . But still they're down by six despite the extra man...

Changes due , surely ?

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:52 am

Thought we were supposed to have some leadership on the pitch. Mindless.

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Post by Maine man Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:52 am

Vunipola (sp) has been poor. I'd like to see Webb, Teo and McGrath on now

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Post by marty2086 Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:53 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Not very consistent to TMO that but not the earlier one against the Lions

Garces refuses to check a late tackle on Farrell yet stops play to look at one on Barrett? Headscratch

Then takes an extra 5 yards when the TMO calls the mark for him?

ABs been in his ear at half time by any chance

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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:53 am

This could be it for Vunipola...
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Post by Guest Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:53 am

Allo allo

What do we have here

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Post by Maine man Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:54 am

The TMO is doing my swede in.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:55 am

Gatland has really missed a trick here with delaying his replacements. Very poor game management from him.
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Post by Taylorman Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:55 am

Geez this repetitive thuggery from the Lions. I don't know.

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Post by whocares Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:55 am

Fair decision. Very disappointing by the Lions I terms of lack of composure and efforts.

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Post by Guest Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:56 am

Terrible discipline from the Lions isn't it Tman

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Post by alfie Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:56 am

eirebilly wrote:This could be it for Vunipola...

Indeed. That presumably has done for the Lions who will go down in history for blowing the chance of a lifetime furious

If they can't score against 14 how will they go at equal numbers... picard

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:56 am

Mako and itoje's discipline has been awful, killing any chance we had.

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Post by Engine#4 Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:57 am

Thats a yellow. No consistency though. 4 and 7 black have both done similar in the past 10 mins.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:57 am

Does Gatland know he has a bench?
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Post by alfie Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:57 am

Replacements now ....horse has bolted I fear.

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Post by marty2086 Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:58 am

Where is this great leader in Warburton, he looks like hes rolling over and letting the ABs tickle his tummy

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Post by marty2086 Sat 01 Jul 2017, 9:59 am

alfie wrote:
eirebilly wrote:This could be it for Vunipola...

Indeed.  That presumably has done for the Lions who will go down in history for blowing the chance of a lifetime furious

If they can't score against 14 how will they go at equal numbers... picard

They already scored against 14 men

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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:00 am

Faletau, what strength to get in clap
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Post by RDW Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:01 am

60 minutes in and we see a Lions backs move!

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Post by alfie Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:02 am

Aha ! My attempt at a "Trebell" seems to have worked as Faletau brings the scores closer Smile

Work to do yet...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:03 am

Good finish...Faletau has spent that much time on the wing he should wear 11

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Post by milkyboy Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:03 am

marty2086 wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Not very consistent to TMO that but not the earlier one against the Lions

Garces refuses to check a late tackle on Farrell yet stops play to look at one on Barrett? Headscratch

Then takes an extra 5 yards when the TMO calls the mark for him?

ABs been in his ear at half time by any chance

He looks like a man who knows he sent off one of the home team's star players. That's a side issue, the real issue is brainless play from the lions

I think they lost the challenger mentality when Williams went off, suddenly thought they should win.

Great finish from faletau. Keeps it interesting.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:05 am

SOB off? He has been brilliant. I would have subbed Warburton off for Stander myself...
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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:07 am

My mistake with SOB.
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Post by alfie Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:08 am

Back out to seven Sad

Indiscipline warning

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Post by eirebilly Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:09 am

Connor Murray clap
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Post by alfie Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:10 am

Murray Yahoo

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Sat 01 Jul 2017, 10:11 am

Maybe the Irish media was right to call the ABs a dirty side?

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