2021-22 England v India Tipping Competition - The Reboot

First topic message reminder :

2021 India v England Tipping Competition Rules:

1.
Pick 2 (two) batsmen and 2 (two) bowlers from both England and India whom you think will score the most runs and take the most wickets.
You get both batting and bowling points per innings so a bowler who scores runs has both batting and bowling scores added together.
e.g.
Crawley, Root, Broad, Anderson
Gill, Kohli, Jadeja, Bumrah

2.
Pick 1 (one) fielder from each team; excluding wicket keepers for most catches and run outs in the Series.
It can be a bowler (for caught & bowled or run outs from own bowling) if you want.
e.g.
Bairstow, Pujara

3.
Select which wicket keeper will take the greatest number of catches, stumpings and run outs combined for each Test.
If a wicket keeper is injured then the replacement keeper's figures shall be used.
e.g.
Billings or Pant... or "the same" amount of dismissals.

4.
Predict the Toss:
a) Who wins the toss?
e.g.
India

b) Winning captain's decision - bat or field?
e.g.
Bat

5.
a) Predict the Test match result.
e.g.
England

Selections must be posted a minimum one (1) hour before the commencement of each Test. No PM reminders shall be sent.


Scoring:

1.
1 point for every run scored by your nominated batsmen. Add together for each Test.
Bonus 25 points for 100 runs.
extra 30 points for 150 runs.
extra 45 points for 200 runs.
extra 60 points for 250 runs.
extra 125 bonus points for 300+ runs.

Note: the batting & bowling score bonuses accumulate so;

Batting: (per innings)
100 runs = 125 points. A player scores 137 runs + 25 = 162 points.
150 runs = 205 points. A player scores 177 runs + 25 + 30 = 232 points.
200 runs = 300 points. A player scores 243 runs + 25 + 30 + 45 = 343 points.
250 runs = 410 points. A player scores 282 runs + 25 + 30 + 45 + 60 = 442 points
300+ runs = 585 points. A player scores 321 runs + 25 + 30 + 45 + 60 + 125 = 606 points.

Bowling: (per innings)
25 points per wicket with a bonus 50 points for a 5-fer.
An extra 30 points for 6-fer, 45 for 7-fer, 60 for 8-fer, 75 for 9-fer.
An extra 100 bonus points for a 10-fer.

5 wickets = 125 points + 50 = 175 points
6 wickets = 150 points + 50 + 30 = 230 points.
7 wickets = 175 points + 50 + 30 + 45 = 300 points
8 wickets = 200 points + 50 + 30 + 45 + 60 = 385 points
9 wickets = 225 points + 50 + 30 + 45 + 60 + 75 = 485 points
10 wickets = 250 points + 50 + 30 + 45 + 60 + 75 + 100 = 610 points

Caught and bowled = 25 points for the wicket + 25 bonus points for the catch = 50 points.

2.
Fielder catches: Your nominated fieldsman earns you 25 points per catch and 25 points for a run out.

3.
Wicket keepers: 50 points for correct selection. e.g. - Billings or Pant.
Or if you think they will take the same number of total dismissals per innings - then nominate "the same" = 50 points.
If they take the same number of catches and stumpings (combined) and you've picked either one of the keepers - then 25 points only.

4.
a) Correctly predict who wins the toss = 15 points
b) Correctly predict what the winning Captain decides to do = 15 points - only for those with part a) above correct; no points if your a) was incorrect.

5.
a) Correctly predict the winning team for each Test match = 75 points.
b) If you guess all 5 Test match outcomes correctly then there is a further 125 point bonus = 375 + 125 = 500 points.
Note: Correctly predict a "Draw" = 75 points

If one (or more) of your selected players gets injured during a match or is dropped from the Test side after a match, then you’ll have the opportunity to select replacement players – either as it happens - for the injured player or before the next Test commences (for a player who gets dropped).
It doesn’t have to be the actual substitute player – it can be somebody else already in the team. However, you don’t receive any of their previous points up until the point of the replacement of the injured player from the field – you must start accumulating points from scratch with them.

*****

August 4-8: 1st Test at Trent Bridge Drawn match (0-0)

August 12-16: 2nd Test at Lord's India won by 151 runs (0-1)

August 25-29: 3rd Test at Headingley England won by an innings and 76 runs (1-1)

September 2-6: 4th Test at The Oval India won by 157 runs (1-2)

July 1-5, 2022: 5th Test at Edgbaston England won 7 wickets (2-2)


*****

Good Luck!

Hopefully Sam is setting himself for a six wicket blitz on Sunday ; to be followed by a breezy thirty not out to bring the team home with the bat

Still probably wouldn't lift me far off the bottom three ...

alfie wrote:Hopefully Sam is setting himself for a six wicket blitz on Sunday  ;  to be followed by a breezy thirty not out to bring the team home with the bat  

Still probably wouldn't lift me far off the bottom three ...

That scenario would be good for you in real life, alfie! However I've got you down for an India win here...

I've re-posted the Table. See my note below.

Points Table
2nd Test, Lord's, Day 3:

1595 JDizzle [344]
1501 KP_Fan [254]
1423 James [210]
1407 King Carlos [251]
1333 Duty [252]
1290 Guildfordbat [206]
1262 Pal Joey [239]
1201 Olly [256]
1077 Wadey [107]
1062 Alfie [234]
974 Soul Requiem [203]
895 Lowlandbrit [93]

Average score: 1252 [221]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Note:
Just realised I forgot to add some of the bonus points (e.g. Root 180+20+25).
I thought the scores looked a bit low on such a high-scoring day! Luckily nobody picked it up...
Apologies everyone. All fixed now. Not much change in the rankings.

Points Table
2nd Test, Lord's, Day 4:

1685 JDizzle [90]
1653 KP_Fan [152]
1532 James [109]
1476 Duty [143]
1470 King Carlos [63]
1403 Guildfordbat [113]
1369 Pal Joey [107]
1283 Olly [82]
1241 Wadey [164]
1144 Alfie [82]
1079 Soul Requiem [105]
987 Lowlandbrit [92]

Average score: 1360 [109]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Points Table
2nd Test, Lord's, Day 5:

2044 JDizzle [359] #
1940 KP_Fan [287] #
1876 King Carlos [406] # *
1796 James [264] #
1792 Duty [316] *
1679 Guildfordbat [276] #
1630 Pal Joey [261] #
1617 Olly [334] #
1516 Wadey [275] *
1455 Alfie [311] # *
1377 Soul Requiem [298] *
1268 Lowlandbrit [281] # *

Average score: 1666 [306]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

# India win = 75 points
* Buttler most dismissals = 50 points
(Buttler: 6 caught behinds; Pant: 3 caught behinds, 1 run out)


Overall Team Scores after the Second Test at Lord's are as follows:
[Scores for 2nd Test in brackets]

England:
1809 [1034] - average player score 164.50 [94.00]

India:
2020 [1167] - average player score 183.60 [106.10]


Top 10 Individual Player Scores: First figure - accumulative score over the series.
[Scores for 2nd Test in brackets]

496 Root [288]
327 Bumrah [94]
289 Rahul [169]
247 Siraj [170]
235 Robinson [95]
219 Shami [116]
216 Anderson [135]
204 Pant [109]
165 Buttler [108]
162 Rohit [114]

Followed by: Bairstow 138 [69], Ishant 124 [124], Jadeja 119 [53], Ali 110 [110], Wood 105 [105], Kohli 102 [102]


Notes:
Congratulations JD for maintaining your position at the top of the table. A handy 104-point lead going into the 3rd Test.
King_Carlos also deserves special mention for scoring a very decent 406 points on Day 5.  
Along with KC; both Alfie and Lowland got the wicket keeping points and picked the India win.  

P.S. I'm not encouraging you guys to drink too much. I just hope you like your ale, cider and guinness every now and then.

Cheers as always Joey!

I think that's my best ever tipping comp performance. I'm still 3rd so that says a lot about previous performance to be fair.

Given I had the lowest score for day 4 I really needed that bumper total on day 5.

Thanks KC. There's always lots of ups and down on the table... just like out on the field itself.

Always like looking at the player's scores. They give a good all round indication of overall performance for each match (and over the series) and they are also a good guide for forthcoming selections. I need to pay more attention obviously. The numbers don't lie.... much!

Pal Joey wrote:Thanks KC. There's always lots of ups and down on the table... just like out on the field itself.

Always like looking at the player's scores. They give a good all round indication of overall performance for each match (and over the series) and they are also a good guide for forthcoming selections. I need to pay more attention obviously. The numbers don't lie.... much!

And if you don't, just ensure you don't pick Sam Curran like idiot me did!

guildfordbat wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:Thanks KC. There's always lots of ups and down on the table... just like out on the field itself.

Always like looking at the player's scores. They give a good all round indication of overall performance for each match (and over the series) and they are also a good guide for forthcoming selections. I need to pay more attention obviously. The numbers don't lie.... much!

And if you don't, just ensure you don't pick Sam Curran like idiot me did!

Snap !

Pal Joey wrote:

Notes:
Congratulations JD for maintaining your position at the top of the table. A handy 104-point lead going into the 3rd Test.

Yup that lead between 50 to 100 points doesn't get shaken off....he more or less selects same team as I do

KP_fan wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:  

Notes:
Congratulations JD for maintaining your position at the top of the table. A handy 104-point lead going into the 3rd Test.

Yup that lead between 50 to 100 points doesn't get shaken off....he more or less selects same team as I do

You're going to have to think outside the oval... I mean square. You can do it!

Third test then...

Root and Bairstow; Anderson and Mahmood.
Kohli and Pant; Shami and Bumrah.

England's keeper to take most catches.

Root and Kohli in the field.

India win the toss and bat.

England win.

Thanks.

Thanks Duty.

I need to get my thinking cap on with less than a day to go. Also check the weather forecast.

I’ll get mine in early so KPF can’t complain about me picking the same team as him, despite getting mine in for Test 2 first as well…  


Root, Bairstow, COverton, Robinson (Moeen if Craig doesn’t play)
Kohli, Rohit, Ishant, Bumrah (Siraj if for some reason India drop one of the bowlers!)

Pant

Root, Kohli

India win the toss and bat

India win


Cheers as always PJ!

I'll have to join in late, Pee Jay.

Malan and Bairstow & Anderson and Robinson
Rohit and Kohli & Shami and Siraj.

Pant for wicket keeper

Bairstow and Rahul for catches

India win the toss and bowl

England win

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:I'll have to join in late, Pee Jay.

Malan and Bairstow & Anderson and Robinson
Rohit and Kohli & Shami and Siraj.

Pant for wicket keeper

Bairstow and Rahul for catches

India win the toss and bowl

England win

Jeez Tino. I'll have to start you on lowest score minus 50. 1218. Pretty sure you'll surge up the table. Good luck!

Pal Joey wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:I'll have to join in late, Pee Jay.

Malan and Bairstow & Anderson and Robinson
Rohit and Kohli & Shami and Siraj.

Pant for wicket keeper

Bairstow and Rahul for catches

India win the toss and bowl

England win

Jeez Tino. I'll have to start you on lowest score minus 50. 1218. Pretty sure you'll surge up the table. Good luck!

That'll do for me. Thanks, champ.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:I'll have to join in late, Pee Jay.

Malan and Bairstow & Anderson and Robinson
Rohit and Kohli & Shami and Siraj.

Pant for wicket keeper

Bairstow and Rahul for catches

India win the toss and bowl

England win

Jeez Tino. I'll have to start you on lowest score minus 50. 1218. Pretty sure you'll surge up the table. Good luck!

That'll do for me. Thanks, champ.

I guess I'll be slipping down your favourite posters of all time list for now... but I know you. No challenge is ever insurmountable!

Pal Joey wrote:

I guess I'll be slipping down your favourite posters of all time list for now... but I know you. No challenge is ever insurmountable!

Duty is my favourite poster, you're my favourite Aussie though!

I'm persevering with my losers;
Burns, Buttler, Curran, Anderson (Robinson if either misses out)
Pujara, Kohli, Jadeja, Shami

Burns, Kohli

Pant

England, bat

England

Cheers Lowland. Hope you don't mind Tino starting 50 points below you.

We were all worried when he went missing from here but it turns out he was on a much needed holiday in South Devon... where he spent part of one day crabbing and watching a greedy gull steal a young boy's chips from right out of his hands. Needless to say that resulted in tears.

Root and Buttler, Anderson and Robinson

Rohit and Pant, Bumrah and Shami

Buttler

Root and Rahane

England win toss and bat

England win (in hope more than expectation)

Burns, Malan, Robinson and Anderson
Kohli, Rahane, Siraj and Bumrah

Buttler

Root and Rahane

India win toss and bat

England win.

Root, Pope, Anderson, Robinson (Burns if Pope doesn't play)
Kohli, Rohit, Bumrah, Jadeja

Pant

Root, Rahane

India win the toss and bat

India win

Cheers PJ!

Rohit & Jadeja
Shami & Ashwin ( Shardul if No Ashwin and Ishant if no Shardul)

Root & Moeen
Robinson & Anderson

Root & Rahane

Pant the WK
India wins the toss and bats first
India wins

Cheers once more, Joey.

Here goes -

Malan & Root
Pujara & Kohli

Moeen & Robinson
Ashwin & Bumrah (Jadeja if still no Ashwin)

Pant

Root
Kohli

India win toss and bat

India win.

England - Root, Burns, Curran (if he doesn't play then Overton) and Robinson
India - Kohli, Pant, Shami and Jadeja

Pant

Root
Rahane

India win the toss and bowl

India win

Might as well have a go , with no real confidence (my aspirations for this comp now limited to staying ahead of Soul and Lowland - and even Tino !) So : the alfie kiss of death goes to...

Root Bairstow Curran (sub Mahmood) Anderson
Pant Rahane Shami Jadeja

Buttler

Root Rohit

India win toss and bat

England win.

Thanks everyone! Good luck!

Root, Bairstow, Robinson, Anderson
KL Rahul, Pant, Siraj, Bumrah

Root, Kohli

Buttler

England, bat

India

Burns, Bairstow, Anderson, Overton (Mahmood)
Kohli, Pant, Bumrah, Siraj (Shami)

Buttler

Bairstow, Rahul

India, bat

England

Thanks Wadey... good stuff!

We're all in.

England: Malan and Overton in.
India: unchanged form 2nd Test

So to confirm...

Alfie: Curran and Anderson (no Mahmood)
JD: Overton and Robinson (not Moeen); Ishant and Bumrah (not Siraj)
Guildford: Jadeja (no Ashwin)
Lowland: Curran and Anderson (not Robinson)
Olly: Curran and Robinson (not Overton)
KP_F: No Ashwin/Shardul... so Shami and Ishant or do you want Jadeja and Shami?
Wadey: Overton and Anderson (no Mahmood); Siraj and Bumrah (not Shami)

Let me know when you can... thanks.

All good, thanks PJ

Sorry Duty... who do want for Mahmood? Overton?
James: no Pope; so stick with Burns.

Will take Robinson over Mahmood. Ta.

Duty281 wrote:Will take Robinson over Mahmood. Ta.

OK, thanks.

Pal Joey wrote:England: Malan and Overton in.
India: unchanged form 2nd Test

So to confirm...

Alfie: Curran and Anderson (no Mahmood)
JD: Overton and Robinson (not Moeen); Ishant and Bumrah (not Siraj)
Guildford: Jadeja (no Ashwin)
Lowland: Curran and Anderson (not Robinson)
Olly: Curran and Robinson (not Overton)
KP_F: No Ashwin/Shardul... so Shami and Ishant or do you want Jadeja and Shami?
Wadey: Overton and Anderson (no Mahmood); Siraj and Bumrah (not Shami)

Let me know when you can... thanks.

for me batters were Rohit / Jadeja
bowlers would now be Shami and Ishant

thx

KP_fan wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:England: Malan and Overton in.
India: unchanged form 2nd Test

So to confirm...

Alfie: Curran and Anderson (no Mahmood)
JD: Overton and Robinson (not Moeen); Ishant and Bumrah (not Siraj)
Guildford: Jadeja (no Ashwin)
Lowland: Curran and Anderson (not Robinson)
Olly: Curran and Robinson (not Overton)
KP_F: No Ashwin/Shardul... so Shami and Ishant or do you want Jadeja and Shami?
Wadey: Overton and Anderson (no Mahmood); Siraj and Bumrah (not Shami)

Let me know when you can... thanks.

for me batters were Rohit / Jadeja
bowlers would now be Shami and Ishant

thx

OK Thanks mate

Points Table
3rd Test, Headingley Day 1:

2233 JDizzle [189] *#
2126 KP_Fan [186] *#
2033 James [237] *#
2022 King Carlos [146]
1956 Duty [164] *#
1802 Olly [185] *
1786 Guildfordbat [107] *#
1760 Pal Joey [130]
1730 Wadey [214] *#
1634 Alfie [179] *#
1612 Soul Requiem [235] *#
1457 Lowlandbrit [189]
1362 Tino [144] *

* denotes correct pick India win toss
# denotes correct pick India elected to bat

Average score: 1809 [177]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Notes:
Well done James [237] and Soul [235]... a big scoring day for you both.

Thanks for the update. Slight point of order, I did go for India to bat first as well.

Duty281 wrote:Thanks for the update. Slight point of order, I did go for India to bat first as well.

Sorry mate... parallax error on my part. In my haste I wrote down 'field' from your line above: "Root and Kohli in the field."
I'll fix up the error right away and add the extra 15 points. Thanks for letting me know.

Points Table
3rd Test, Headingley Day 2:

2447 JDizzle [214]
2375 KP_Fan [249]
2250 King Carlos [228]
2243 James [210]
2206 Duty [250]
2067 Olly [265]
2065 Guildfordbat [279]
1990 Pal Joey [230]
1919 Alfie [285]
1852 Wadey [122]
1751 Soul Requiem [139]
1588 Lowlandbrit [131]
1561 Tino [199]

Average score: 2024 [215]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Moral of the story never assume Root is going to fail ever.

Soul Requiem wrote:Moral of the story never assume Root is going to fail ever.

I resisted the BIG temptation to drop Root hoping that Law of averages will catch up
When Root & Stokes are in the Eng XI...it's perilous to drop either of them from your selections

That's right. I'm hoping for some points from the India upper order today. Their low scores in the first innings didn't help anyone.

Interesting to note the current team scores for this Test and the resulting overall impact.

After Lords:

England:
1809 [1034] - average player score 164.50 [94.00]

India:
2020 [1167] - average player score 183.60 [106.10]


And at the start of Day 3 at Headingley:

England:
2492 [683.00] - average player score 226.60 [62.10]

India:
2272 [252.00] - average player score 206.50 [22.90]

India's 211 point lead was mown down just after lunch on Day 1 at Headingley and the trend has continued.
England is now 220 points ahead overall across the Series thus far. A 431-point turnaround since Lord's.

Points Table
3rd Test, Headingley Day 3:

2619 JDizzle [172]
2474 KP_Fan [99]
2387 James [144]
2369 King Carlos [119]
2311 Duty [105]
2241 Guildfordbat [176]
2152 Olly [85]
2038 Pal Joey [48]
1970 Wadey [118]
1939 Alfie [20]
1836 Soul Requiem [85]
1744 Lowlandbrit [156]
1730 Tino [169]

Average score: 2139 [115]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Notes:
A difficult scoring day for most of us... except for JD, Guildford, Tino, Lowland and James.  
Alfie... I've checked and I've re-checked. Is that possible? You deserve a special bonus! A better day ahead for you today hopefully!  
P.S. I didn't do much better. 28!

How did I do that ?!   Anyone ever had a zero before ? I guess my Indian bats haven't yet come to the crease and my England bowlers were not among the wickets ... ah well tomorrow can hardly get worse - in fact it literally can't  ...  

I blame Robinson for not letting Jimmy have some strike to score a quick 12 not out.

Those with faith in Pujara will no doubt be even happier when he reaches his double century sometime on Saturday  

Not sure, there may have been one or two zero scores on a similar day with few bastmen, wicket takers and catchers. We've had days completely washed out or severely interrupted by rain when nobody has scored but that's a different scenario.

On the plus side, we've had members get the lowest score one day and then the highest score the next - on a few occasions.

To save Alfie, you may have missed Bumrah and Shami's wickets yesterday morning off the scoring, unless they were already added in.

Duty281 wrote:To save Alfie, you may have missed Bumrah and Shami's wickets yesterday morning off the scoring, unless they were already added in.

yes that might be the case.....I am also seemingly missing 20 points for shami