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Post by king_carlos Wed 22 Feb 2023, 8:12 pm

First topic message reminder :

What it says on the tin.

I can't believe Youngs has been dropped...

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Post by Sharkey06 Fri 24 Feb 2023, 10:22 pm

The build up to the match must be pretty boring if we are discussing media training manuals, etc. Personally I don't miss the Eddie antics. With Borthwick you know you are not going to get much of interest, but then I don't recall Andy Farrell being a barrel of laughs either.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 25 Feb 2023, 2:14 am

king_carlos wrote:I am enjoying seeing (not necessarily on here mind) many of the same fans who hated Eddie's antics in press conferences now dislike Borthwick's straight bat. Always something to grumble about. Personally I couldn't care less what's said in press conferences, short of something approaching hate speech obviously, so long as the rugby is improving.
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Post by mountain man Sat 25 Feb 2023, 7:43 am

Jones pre match team talks for opposition were detrimental to team. Could only have increased pressure on England.
Personally I'm glad those days are gone. Concentrate on the rugby, that's it.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 25 Feb 2023, 11:09 am

king_carlos wrote:I am enjoying seeing (not necessarily on here mind) many of the same fans who hated Eddie's antics in press conferences now dislike Borthwick's straight bat. Always something to grumble about. Personally I couldn't care less what's said in press conferences, short of something approaching hate speech obviously, so long as the rugby is improving.

I quite like not seeing the England head coach making headlines for a different statement every other day.

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Post by lostinwales Sat 25 Feb 2023, 1:35 pm

I think Jones has a fabulous knack for saying something in a couple of sentences that either pulls all the media attention over to him or his opponents and away from his team. I don't think anyone will mind Borthwick being more anonymous but Jones's media appearances did have a purpose.

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Post by George Carlin Sat 25 Feb 2023, 2:05 pm

Can we start some proper, brainless, unsubstantiated sh!thousery now please.

I'm not used to all of this politeness on these boards.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 25 Feb 2023, 3:42 pm

Tips, Biggar and Halfpenny are fitness doubts apparently.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 25 Feb 2023, 3:50 pm

AWJ and Dombrandt also fitness doubts but just because one's old and the other's a melting ice cream. There you go George. Thought I'd get one in on either side of the tracks.

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 4:29 pm

I really do like Steve Borthwick, such a genuine man. I do wish him well.

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Post by BamBam Sat 25 Feb 2023, 4:36 pm

George Carlin wrote:Can we start some proper, brainless, unsubstantiated sh!thousery now please.

I'm not used to all of this politeness on these boards.

Told you all moderators were pointless

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 25 Feb 2023, 4:43 pm

George Carlin wrote:Can we start some proper, brainless, unsubstantiated sh!thousery now please.

I'm not used to all of this politeness on these boards.
Your mother wears army boots.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 4:44 pm

George Carlin wrote:Can we start some proper, brainless, unsubstantiated sh!thousery now please.

I'm not used to all of this politeness on these boards.

Even Will and Kate are polite and singing both anthems.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 25 Feb 2023, 4:53 pm

Rumour has it a lot of arrogant English made the journey down to watch this game. At least according to Jiffy anyway.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:00 pm

The arrogant English don't look like much so far...

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Post by king_carlos Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:01 pm

God that explanation of the kicking battle was abysmal.

Very strong chase from Ludlam backed up by Willis.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:03 pm

king_carlos wrote:God that explanation of the kicking battle was abysmal.

Very strong chase from Ludlam backed up by Willis.

Wasn't it!

I always like a forward as 1 of the co commentators too.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:04 pm

Nice.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:05 pm

Whoa. A wing actually had the ball! And knew what to do with it!

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Post by king_carlos Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:05 pm

Terrific try. Excellently executed move and great finish by Watson. He'd already done very well to collect after the early tackle too. So good to see Watson back, England have missed his class so much.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:06 pm

Deserved try. England moving it well off the set-piece, excellent tempo. Delighted for Watson who's had a rotten couple of years.

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Post by lostinwales Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:07 pm

Malins though. He has been getting in the right places but there is no threat when he starts running.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:08 pm

Great start....looking much better. JVP quick and kicking well....both wingers attacking nicely, midfield working...Farrell producing.

Very nice try.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:09 pm

Do like how much Chessum puts into his charge down attempts.

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Post by BamBam Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:11 pm

Great to see Watson back

I was worried we were going to match Wales' glacial pace all game, appreciate they have to allow the pensioner in their second row to keep up though

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:11 pm

Ref needs to get these scrums moving.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:16 pm

Steward has been majestic in the air

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Post by Heaf Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:17 pm

How was that a knock-on - ball rolled out sideways and backwards from the tackle?

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Post by Heaf Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:19 pm

Farrell's kicking has been a bit off lately ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:20 pm

Farrells passing has been good so far but his kicking from hand and tee is a bit iffy.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:20 pm

Heaf wrote:Farrell's kicking has been a bit off lately ...

He's been off for a while....%'s must be down in the 60's??

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Post by Heaf Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:21 pm

Shame - if managed to take that looked like try

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Post by king_carlos Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:22 pm

Kicking from hand's been really good I'd say but that's another poor miss from the tee. Already 5 points missed.

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Post by lostinwales Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:23 pm

Half the best runs come from JVP passing straight to Lawrence. Not sure what Farrell brings at the moment

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Post by Heaf Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:23 pm

king_carlos wrote:Kicking from hand's been really good I'd say but that's another poor miss from the tee. Already 5 points missed.

Didn't he kick one straight out?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:25 pm

Malins is a turn table in defence.

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Post by Heaf Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:25 pm

Wales 14 straight in the side at that LRZ tackle

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Post by king_carlos Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:26 pm

Lawrence has been really impressive in defence so far.

Willis very prominent too.

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Post by BamBam Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:26 pm

Great from Lawrence

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Post by king_carlos Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:26 pm

Heaf wrote:
king_carlos wrote:Kicking from hand's been really good I'd say but that's another poor miss from the tee. Already 5 points missed.

Didn't he kick one straight out?

Missed the first 4 mins but don't think so since then?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:27 pm

Lawrence has been great at the breakdown.

Like to see more from Willis there...he's been in some great positions but hasn't made much impact so far.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:27 pm

king_carlos wrote:
Heaf wrote:
king_carlos wrote:Kicking from hand's been really good I'd say but that's another poor miss from the tee. Already 5 points missed.

Didn't he kick one straight out?

Missed the first 4 mins but don't think so since then?

You missed his charge down. But he did kick one straight out.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:29 pm

Brilliant from ludlam.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:29 pm

Actually this is pretty shambolic. For both sides. The fight for the bottom of the table usually looks like this...

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Post by BamBam Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:29 pm

Forward pass there anyway but great turnover by Ludlam

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Post by Poorfour Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:29 pm

Wales are being allowed to jump onto the breakdown - that stuff is incredibly dangerous and should be whistled and preferably carded.
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:29 pm

Feels like we should be more than 5 up.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:30 pm

Ludlam impressive yet again.

England just stuttering along despite much opportunity though.

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Post by Poorfour Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:30 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Feels like we should be more than 5 up.

We would be if Farrell had made his kicks. He’s not having his best game so far.
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Post by lostinwales Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:30 pm

England look more fragile than I'd like, and they have left points out on the field

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 25 Feb 2023, 5:33 pm

king_carlos wrote:Ludlam impressive yet again.

England just stuttering along despite much opportunity though.
Yeah, Ludlum is a stud. After the first half England have Ludlum, Steward, and Genge playing like studs. The rest, no so much. Shambolic.

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