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The 2023 Cricket World Cup
After the drama-free finish to the 2019 Cricket World Cup, the 2023 Cricket World Cup will finally get under way on the 5th October, having been initially delayed by Covid and then threatened by a Pakistani boycott.
England are the defending champions, and they're also the reigning T20 World Champions. Doubleplusgood, eh? They're looking to be the first nation to win consecutive ODI World Cups since the Aussie vintage of 1999-2007. Biggest adversaries to that are likely to be India, who haven't won a major global competition since the 2013 Champions Trophy, but will no doubt be heartened by the knowledge that the last three ODI World Cups have been won by a host nation.
Five-time winners Australia can never be ruled out, while Pakistan are fueled by a burning motivation to win the World Cup in the homeland of their greatest rivals. New Zealand have made the last two finals - losing the last on boundary count, would you believe? - and will hope to make the final step this year.
South Africa will presumably think they're due to win something, as they've not won a global competition since the 1998 Champions Trophy, while the Afghans will believe they can spin anyone into submission. Bangladesh will be hoping to make a sizable impact at the ODI World Cup for the first time.
Sri Lanka breezed through qualifying and will be encouraged by making the recent Asia Cup final, even if they did get hammered in said final. The Netherlands round off the ten teams after performing minor miracles in qualification, which of course means the West Indies, the winners of the first two ODI World Cups, will be missing out on this tournament for the very first time.
The ten-team format for the World Cup remains as simple as ever. Ten teams all play each other once, and the top four teams in the group at the end of it go through to the semi-finals, where it becomes a straight knockout. 48 matches total. There will be reserve days for the three knockout matches and, if necessary, Super Overs. But you can't win games on boundary count anymore...
- Fixtures:
- October 5 - England vs New Zealand (0930 BST)
October 6 - Pakistan vs Netherlands (0930 BST)
October 7 - Bangladesh vs Afghanistan (0600 BST)
October 7 - South Africa vs Sri Lanka (0930 BST)
October 8 - India vs Australia (0930 BST)
October 9 - New Zealand vs Netherlands (0930 BST)
October 10 - England vs Bangladesh (0600 BST)
October 10 - Pakistan vs Sri Lanka (0930 BST)
October 11 - India vs Afghanistan (0930 BST)
October 12 - Australia vs South Africa (0930 BST)
October 13 - New Zealand vs Bangladesh (0930 BST)
October 14 - India vs Pakistan (0930 BST)
October 15 - England vs Afghanistan (0930 BST)
October 16 - Australia vs Sri Lanka (0930 BST)
October 17 - South Africa vs Netherlands (0930 BST)
October 18 - New Zealand vs Afghanistan (0930 BST)
October 19 - India vs Bangladesh (0930 BST)
October 20 - Australia vs Pakistan (0930 BST)
October 21 - Netherlands vs Sri Lanka (0600 BST)
October 21 - England vs South Africa (0930 BST)
October 22 - India vs New Zealand (0930 BST)
October 23 - Pakistan vs Afghanistan (0930 BST)
October 24 - South Africa v Bangladesh (0930 BST)
October 25 - Australia vs Netherlands (0930 BST)
October 26 - England vs Sri Lanka (0930 BST)
October 27 - Pakistan vs South Africa (0930 BST)
October 28 - Australia vs New Zealand (0600 BST)
October 28 - Netherlands vs Bangladesh (0930 BST)
October 29 - India vs England (0830 GMT)
October 30 - Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka (0830 GMT)
October 31 - Pakistan vs Bangladesh (0830 GMT)
November 1 - New Zealand vs South Africa (0830 GMT)
November 2 - India vs Sri Lanka (0830 GMT)
November 3 - Netherlands vs Afghanistan (0830 GMT)
November 4 - New Zealand vs Pakistan (0500 GMT)
November 4 - England vs Australia (0830 GMT)
November 5 - India vs South Africa (0830 GMT)
November 6 - Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka (0830 GMT)
November 7 - Australia vs Afghanistan (0830 GMT)
November 8 - England vs Netherlands (0830 GMT)
November 9 - New Zealand vs Sri Lanka, (0830 GMT)
November 10 - South Africa vs Afghanistan (0830 GMT)
November 11 - Australia vs Bangladesh (0500 GMT)
November 11 - England vs Pakistan (0830 GMT)
November 12 - India vs Netherlands (0830 GMT)
November 15 - First semi-final, 1st v 4th (0830 GMT)
November 16 - Second semi-final , 2nd v 3rd (0830 GMT)
November 19 - Final (0830 GMT)
- Tournament Odds:
- (Bet365) - India 11/5; England 3/1; Australia 9/2; Pakistan 13/2; New Zealand 15/2; South Africa 10/1; Sri Lanka 25/1; Afghanistan 33/1; Bangladesh 50/1; Netherlands 750/1.
- Squad Lists (Teams have until the 28th September to finalise their squads):
- Afghanistan
Hashmatullah Shahidi (c), Rahmanullah Gurbaz, Ibrahim Zadran, Riaz Hassan, Rahmat Shah, Najibullah Zadran, Mohammad Nabi, Ikram Alikhil, Azmatullah Omarzai, Rashid Khan, Mujeeb ur Rahman, Noor Ahmad, Fazalhaq Farooqi, Abdul Rahman, Naveen ul Haq.
Australia
Pat Cummins (capt), Sean Abbott, Alex Carey, Cameron Green, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Josh Inglis, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitchell Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Marcus Stoinis, David Warner, Adam Zampa.
Bangladesh
Shakib Al Hasan (c), Mushfiqur Rahim, Litton Das, Najmul Hossain Shanto, Mehedi Hasan, Towhid Hridoy, Taskin Ahmed, Mustafizur Rahman, Shoriful Islam, Hasan Mahmud, Nasum Ahmed, Mahedi Hasan, Tanzim Hasan, Tanzid Hasan, Mahmudullah.
England
Jos Buttler (c), Moeen Ali, Gus Atkinson, Jonny Bairstow, Harry Brook, Sam Curran, Liam Livingstone, Dawid Malan, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Ben Stokes, Reece Topley, David Willey, Mark Wood, Chris Woakes.
India
Rohit Sharma (capt), Shubman Gill, Virat Kohli, Shreyas Iyer, KL Rahul (wk), Ishan Kishan (wk), Suryakumar Yadav, Hardik Pandya (vice-capt), Ravindra Jadeja, Kuldeep Yadav, R Ashwin, Shardul Thakur, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Shami, Mohammed Siraj.
Netherlands
Scott Edwards (c), Max O'Dowd, Bas de Leede, Vikram Singh, Teja Nidamanuru, Paul van Meekeren, Colin Ackermann, Roelof van der Merwe, Logan van Beek, Aryan Dutt, Ryan Klein, Wesley Barresi, Saqib Zulfiqar, Shariz Ahmad, Sybrand Engelbrecht.
New Zealand
Kane Williamson (c), Trent Boult, Mark Chapman, Devon Conway, Lockie Ferguson, Matt Henry, Tom Latham, Daryl Mitchell, Jimmy Neesham, Glenn Phillips, Rachin Ravindra, Mitch Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Will Young.
Pakistan
Babar Azam (c), Shadab Khan, Fakhar Zaman, Imam-ul-Haq, Abdullah Shafique, Mohammad Rizwan, Saud Shakeel, Iftikhar Ahmed, Salman Ali Agha, Mohammad Nawaz, Usama Mir, Haris Rauf, Hasan Ali, Shaheen Afridi, Mohammad Wasim.
South Africa
Temba Bavuma (c), Gerald Coetzee, Quinton de Kock, Reeza Hendricks, Marco Jansen, Heinrich Klaasen, Sisanda Magala, Keshav Maharaj, Aiden Markram, David Miller, Lungi Ngidi, Anrich Nortje, Kagiso Rabada, Tabraiz Shamsi, Rassie van der Dussen.
Sri Lanka
Dasun Shanaka (capt), Kusal Mendis, Pathum Nissanka, Kusal Perera (wk), Dimuth Karunaratne, Charith Asalanka, Dhananjaya de Silva, Sadeera Samarawickrama (wk), Dushan Hemantha, Maheesh Theekshana, Dunith Wellalage, Kasun Rajitha, Dilshan Madushanka, Matheesha Pathirana, Lahiru Kumara.
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342/3 after 43. The record score in a World Cup is Australia's 417/6 against Afghanistan in 2015.
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And South Africa break the record World Cup total with an over to spare.
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Three centurions for South Africa, including Markram's record-breaking effort.
The ball-striking was brutally good, but Sri Lanka's bowling...well, there's no words low enough to describe how bad it was. They're missing several key bowlers and it showed today.
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There's clear questions about their bowling but if Rabada, Ngidi and Jansen can take PP wickets, which they are certainly capable of, then they can turn anyone over with the batting firing like it has been.
From an England perspective I do look at their 6 best batters, 5 best bowlers approach and think that we might see England end up there as they did in 2019. After so long with ridiculous batting depth and lots of bowling options leading into 2019 they ended up winning the tournament with a tail consisting of Woakes and Plunkett a place too high at 7 and 8 respectively, Archer's six hitting from the franchise circuit not transferring to internationals at all, Dilly's mythical 10 F-C centuries and Wood batting worse than he does now. 6 best batters, 5 best bowlers.
The big difference being Stokes having 2 knees of course. I have a feeling that unless Livi can nail that finisher role and bowl more that they might try Root bowling some overs at a funky time and shifting Buttler back to 6 where he gives obscene depth. Stokes went from a really poor T20 bowling record to taking the new ball in the World T20 as it allowed the jigsaw to work with the pieces in the box. Likewise Surran turning himself into a death bowler. This white ball setup tend to find solutions like that.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see Root bowling early in the innings for instance. He started his white ball career bowling the opening over of T20 games for Yorkshire. With Jof injured England don't have the same PP threat in their seamers and the 2 white Kookaburras barely swings for the 10 over PP anyway! It would be very England white ball unit to try something like that.
1.Bairstow 2.Malan 3.Root 4.Stokes 5.Brook 6.Buttler 7.Surran/Mo/Livi 8.Woakes 9.Wood 10.Rashid 11.Topley
It's not as balanced as 2019 but nothing's going to be from this squad. They haven't had 4 years prioritising the format and dominating the ODI game with a generation peaking at the ideal time like Morgan's side did. Backing the firepower in the top 6 just looks stronger to me with the players available.
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I think it was the highest match aggregate for a World Cup game - 754 runs in the game, surpassing 714 runs scored between Australia and Bangladesh in 2019.
Not been a good start to the World Cup, and I dislike high-scoring ODIs, so I'm concerned this will be a theme of the tournament. The England/NZ pitch was a batting paradise, although the ball didn't come on to the bat easily in the Pakistan/Netherlands game. Every game has been played with small boundaries as well.
Hopefully India/Australia kickstarts the World Cup.
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For India, Jadeja's been absolutely brilliant. Kuldeep and Ashwin also doing the job, and Jasprit Bumrah gave them a good start up front. The only bowler who hasn't really been properly on has been Hardik. Not a problem today, but as the team may want to play all 3 spinners in many subsequent games and Shardul Thakur not being the ideal 3rd seamer option, its important Hardik continues his recent good run with the ball.
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Well! Just as I type, they nearly had that wicket! Sitter dropped by Marsh!
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Perhaps in a chasing situation like this, they should have had Rahul in at 4 and Iyer at 5, particularly in case of a couple of early wickets. Shreyas can't play short ball is known even in other planets, better not to expose him to the likes of Starc and Cummins with a new ball...
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Might have been the key moment. India now 80/3 and making good progress.
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The tournament is five games through, every team has played once. It all feels flat and lacking spark so far. Four results went as expected, one upset with NZ toppling England (but certainly not a big upset), and no close finishes or games of real drama yet. All been a bit meh.
Netherlands against New Zealand tomorrow is unlikely to change things on the drama stakes, although the Dutch competed well against Pakistan. Southee may be fit for the Kiwis, but Williamson is still unavailable.
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Gill should be back for the next game for Kishan. I'd like to see SKY in for Iyer as well...
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Top sides Au, Eng, NZ and SA will get spinning pitches like the one rolled out today vs Ind...and Ind will unleash 3 really quality spinners.
Asian sides BD, SL & Afg will get seaming pitches because India deems they have a superior seam attack and better seam handling batting.
However no way will Ind risk a pitch like this one today against subcontinent side......as Ind risks losing to SL, BD and even Afg can corner them.
Pak....I am not sure...I think BCCI more inclined to give them a mildly spinning track.
For the others vs Others games...they frikk don't care & will leave it to the fancy of the local curator even if he produces a slog fest 428 run pitch
BUT
Aus could have competed had the recalibrated their target to a 240-250 the moment they saw turn
AND
had they taken Kohli's sitter and not taken foot off when Maxwell & Hazelwood had India on the mat.
That Zampa was totally rhythm less didn't help....how he became groggy and concussed before the game swimming into a wall, still beyond my understanding
Eng, NZ, SA & Pak all would have watched and should be prepared with 3 to 4 spinners and how to use them.....and calibrate to 240-280 scores
The dew factor under lights is debatable.....you will hear multiple versions of who it helps more
My view on Dew Factor:
1- It's more in southern indian states where himidity is high
2- Northern states are drier at this time.
3- regardless under the lights seamers get some nibble off the pitch
4- the spinner aught to be an experienced one and know how to keep the ball dry and use the top spinners /skidder
Those who have played IPL should have a good handle on this.
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The outfield for England's game on Tuesday in a disgraceful state, but it has passed an inspection.
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Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/08/england-to-field-smart-as-dharamsala-outfield-is-cleared-for-bangladesh-clash
The outfield for England's game on Tuesday in a disgraceful state, but it has passed an inspection.
The organisation of this tournament on all fronts has been nothing short of a disgrace
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Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/08/england-to-field-smart-as-dharamsala-outfield-is-cleared-for-bangladesh-clash
The outfield for England's game on Tuesday in a disgraceful state, but it has passed an inspection.
The organisation of this tournament on all fronts has been nothing short of a disgrace
Indeed. Dobell was rather scathing about it - in a commendably restrained manner. Probably isn't going to help the declining relevance of the 50 over format in the future... Though I suppose if India manage to win it we will see matches and mini-series proliferate
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Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/08/england-to-field-smart-as-dharamsala-outfield-is-cleared-for-bangladesh-clash
The outfield for England's game on Tuesday in a disgraceful state, but it has passed an inspection.
The organisation of this tournament on all fronts has been nothing short of a disgrace
Yes, and you made a good point about England's travel for this tournament. According to the Telegraph, England have to travel just over 6,000 miles during the group stage, and are one of only two sides (alongside India) who have no games at consecutive venues. More time in planes than on the training field - England have had to travel 800 miles between game one and game two, whereas Bangladesh are able to stay put because they're playing at the same venue as they did in game one.
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Should be enough for NZ, but they know it won't be a walkover.
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Duty281 wrote:Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/08/england-to-field-smart-as-dharamsala-outfield-is-cleared-for-bangladesh-clash
The outfield for England's game on Tuesday in a disgraceful state, but it has passed an inspection.
The organisation of this tournament on all fronts has been nothing short of a disgrace
Yes, and you made a good point about England's travel for this tournament. According to the Telegraph, England have to travel just over 6,000 miles during the group stage, and are one of only two sides (alongside India) who have no games at consecutive venues. More time in planes than on the training field - England have had to travel 800 miles between game one and game two, whereas Bangladesh are able to stay put because they're playing at the same venue as they did in game one.
I think BCCI are trying to make it harder for potential top competitors
While sub-continent boards are timid England's board was expected to stand-up and resist more
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They will not win, nor should they try to.
They should bat normally and aim for a 280 odd
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KP_fan wrote:Ned has done as good as you would expect from them in not letting NZ get to 360ish
They will not win, nor should they try to.
They should bat normally and aim for a 280 odd
That has always been my view about Gavaskar’s perplexing 36 not out off 174 deliveries in the 1975 World Cup against England. He knew India could not win and so set out to achieve what to him was a “losing draw” and the only option available.
Alfie will understand as would Carlos’ grandad.
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Sunny himself has given a few answers down the years. The famous one being that he apparently edged his second ball behind but Knott didn't appeal so he stood there, but, wishes he walked now to avoid what came after. I believe he also once claimed, rather hilariously, that he was simply out of form and not hitting it well. Which given the genius he was with the bat (once batting left-handed to negate a SLA bowler and get his side a draw) feels very tongue in cheek as facing nearly 30 overs should help a player like Gavaskar see it a bit better.
He's long been an odd character in the game. As a commentator he's in the same bracket Warne was for me. A huge amount of what he says seems to be utter nonsense largely designed to get a reaction. Then every now and again he'll offer a fascinating insight that shows his ability to view the game as few others have.
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Two games tomorrow. Bangladesh v England is the early kick-off, and it promises to be a very intriguing game on a rough and almost-not-ready outfield. Even at this early stage it's pretty much must-win for England. A loss would make it 0-2 and leave them needing at least five, though probably six, wins from the seven games left; and those seven games include India, Australia, and Pakistan.
So the pressure's on to bounce back. And Bangladesh can be very tricky opposition in subcontinental conditions, with their variety of spin and the pace of Mustafizur. I think England will win, but it's far from set in stone. It's anticipated that Topley will come in for Moeen, although it may be Livingstone he replaces, and there's a slight question mark over playing Wood in two consecutive games.
Bangladesh likely to be unchanged after their win over Afghanistan. If they beat England then their semi-final ambitions look very real.
There may also be the first rain delay of the tournament, with some showers forecast, but it's highly unlikely the game will be a no result. Temperatures will also be about 20 degrees cooler than they were for England's opener.
The later game is Pakistan/Sri Lanka. Quite incredibly, Pakistan have won seven out of seven completed matches v Sri Lanka at ODI World Cups, with one washout in 2019. Little reason to suggest that that will change tomorrow, with Sri Lanka's injury ravaged bowling attack likely to be put to the blade once again.
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Duty281 wrote:NZ win by 99 runs, not quite a thrashing, but certainly easily done...
Only PJ and his warped definitions prevent it being classed as a thrashing.
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They have batters who can handle pace...and decent bowlers and a lot of bowling/ batting allrounders
They need to bat patiently ......instead of keep going at the bowling all the time
If they keep wickets in hand and bat 50 overs......getting to 280ish is within their realms
280ish will win them 2 to 3 games and keep their NRR in good shape and let them finish like No. 8ish
And that is not a bad finish
They have been bowled out in 41 and 46 overs trying to drive their car faster than its built for.
Satner has mastered the way to bowl on these pitches in 50 over format......he's not a bowler who can take wickets by producing ripping deliveries....but gets wicket when batsman go after him.....and batter are tempted because he teases them with very slow floated dollies over their eye lines and often wide......looks more "hittabble" than he is.
NZ as always on the bigger stage elevates their game thru clever tactical play suited for conditions.
Rachin is another star in the making...he is much more than a part-time spinner...he pivots and gets the bowl to rip a bit and loop......closer to SA's Maharaj
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guildfordbat wrote:KP_fan wrote:Ned has done as good as you would expect from them in not letting NZ get to 360ish
They will not win, nor should they try to.
They should bat normally and aim for a 280 odd
That has always been my view about Gavaskar’s perplexing 36 not out off 174 deliveries in the 1975 World Cup against England. He knew India could not win and so set out to achieve what to him was a “losing draw” and the only option available.
Alfie will understand as would Carlos’ grandad.
Thats right there is probably a lot of no way we can win it...so let's bat out against top class bowling.
And 336 in 1975 when India had played perhaps only 2 ODIs was like being asked to chase 800 today
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Gavaskar was much better than 36 off 30 overs.......and unbeaten 80 odd would have been more justifiable like he did in this match in 1985 vs Aus
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/benson-hedges-world-series-cup-1985-86-60857/australia-vs-india-8th-match-65398/full-scorecard
again blamed for not even trying and now he was world Cup and benson & hedges champion
Back to the 1975 game.....there was probably some of what King_carlos wrote a grudge, jealousies and rivalries which were plenty in those times between stars...and Gavaskar was a star by then.
I have to go back and google what he wrote in Sunny Days...the first of his 3 books where he did mention this inning
incidentally his 3rd book was Runs n Ruins where he talks about and clears the air about controversies, rivalries & rumors.
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Duty281 wrote: I think England will win, but it's far from set in stone.
But you've tipped Ban N? The only one to do so, I see.
Ahhh... I get it. Very clever!
You can change it if you want. Just let us know on the thread.
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Still backing Buttler's boys to bounce back today. But will be keeping fingers crossed...
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Good opening stand 115/1 off 18 overs. Malan the more fluent of the two today still there and Root arrives in a good position to push on...
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Malan with a lovely hundred
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alfie wrote:Scoring slowed a bit since the wicket. 149/1 at halfway not bad : but I think they will be looking to accelerate as they progress.
Certainly accelerating now!
This may be a bit old fashioned now but I still think a batting side should be looking to match its 30 over total in the last 20. That’s provided you have wickets in hand and England have 9.
On that basis, I’m hoping for 374 and PJ paying out on a thrashing.
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Eng already sealed half the game by the time I tuned in......batting like they are known to in their "Keep Going" mode
Root & KL Rahul will be competing for the top scorer of tournament
360 is the min Eng should get from here and BD has risk of seeing 400 being breached also
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Malan 128 from 101 , Root 55 from 50. Looking good for a winning total - wonder how many we are looking at to boost that NRR ?
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Stand and hit throuhg the line or across the line .......an almost Patta strip
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Not slowing England down - Buttler starting in a hurry
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