Rugby World Cup - other team/games and general chat

by Sgt_Pooly Thu 28 Sep 2023, 6:03 am

First topic message reminder :

Carried on from.........

https://www.606v2.com/t71218-rugby-world-cup-other-team-games-and-general-chat

by geoff999rugby Sat 30 Sep 2023, 12:17 pm

Carley has been the worse referee in the competition and by some distance.

Should be dropped from the International panel after the WC

by **Rugby Fan** Sat 30 Sep 2023, 12:26 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
Lowlandbrit wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Three rubbish World Cups in a row for Samoa.
Bit worried for Samoa and Tonga with the current push to remove the league-style defending from the game to be honest.

Both Samoa and Tonga have been rubbish. I expected a lot better from them with the players available. Contrast with Fiji who have been very good so far - perhaps the result of hiring good coaches over the years.

That rings true. Fiji and Samoa were both strong on the original sevens circuit. Fiji went onwards and upwards in the code, hiring some of the best coaches around, while Samoa floundered. It's only in the last two seasons that Samoa has returned to some sort of Sevens form, and most of that is down to a coaching plan.

by Lowlandbrit Sat 30 Sep 2023, 3:01 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
Lowlandbrit wrote:Bit worried for Samoa and Tonga with the current push to remove the league-style defending from the game to be honest.
Both Samoa and Tonga have been rubbish. I expected a lot better from them with the players available. Contrast with Fiji who have been very good so far - perhaps the result of hiring good coaches over the years.
That rings true. Fiji and Samoa were both strong on the original sevens circuit. Fiji went onwards and upwards in the code, hiring some of the best coaches around, while Samoa floundered. It's only in the last two seasons that Samoa has returned to some sort of Sevens form, and most of that is down to a coaching plan.

Fiji's identity has long been 'Sevens team that could be good with better structure (in the pack)', and the franchise/coaching seems to be paying off there. My point was that the classic Samoan 'hard running and big hits' identity doesn't look like a great foundation for the current climate.

by eirebilly_01 Sat 30 Sep 2023, 3:20 pm

Ben Whitehouse... Possibly correct but ye could let that go. Even the referee tried to talk him out of it and looked upset with the decision.

by tigertattie Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:15 pm

Are you allowed to try and jump over tackles now???

by **BigGee** Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:27 pm

Georgia good value for their lead atm

Fiji very sluggish

by **BigGee** Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:34 pm

If that pass hsd been reviewed and not been called forward in real time, I bet it would have been given!

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:36 pm

mikey_dragon wrote: Wales never has an easy group.

Only real way to correct this is to be better.....if you're in and around the top couple of sides there's more of a chance you'll be drawn in an easier group.

by TAFKA The Oracle Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:41 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote: Wales never has an easy group.

Only real way to correct this is to be better.....if you're in and around the top couple of sides there's more of a chance you'll be drawn in an easier group.

Scotland says “really?!”

by lostinwales Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:48 pm

Georgia playing out of their skins. Really good game

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:51 pm

TAFKA The Oracle wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote: Wales never has an easy group.

Only real way to correct this is to be better.....if you're in and around the top couple of sides there's more of a chance you'll be drawn in an easier group.

Scotland says “really?!”

I should have added "continually around the top few sides".......

I quite enjoy that the WC cup groups can be a bit messed up form wise.

by Heaf Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:52 pm

Or particularly 3 years before ...

by **BigGee** Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:57 pm

If Fiji lose this game, does that mean that Australia can still qualify?

by Duty281 Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:57 pm

Wasn't that penalty already taken?!

by Duty281 Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:58 pm

BigGee wrote:If Fiji lose this game, does that mean that Australia can still qualify?

Yes, as long as Fiji don't get to 11 points (currently on 6).

by Heaf Sat 30 Sep 2023, 5:59 pm

BigGee wrote:If Fiji lose this game, does that mean that Australia can still qualify?

Yep

by Heaf Sat 30 Sep 2023, 6:07 pm

Fiji probably only need a point from this game realistically

by **BigGee** Sat 30 Sep 2023, 6:12 pm

Heaf wrote:Fiji probably only need a point from this game realistically

Yes, thst was my maths as well

They will likely still win this game, but they have got something to think about.

Play this loosely against England and they lose

by Heaf Sat 30 Sep 2023, 6:15 pm

BigGee wrote:
Heaf wrote:Fiji probably only need a point from this game realistically

Yes, thst was my maths as well

They will likely still win this game, but they have got something to think about.

Play this loosely against England and they lose

I could live with that Smile

by Heaf Sat 30 Sep 2023, 6:16 pm

Even if they lose the odds are they still qualify ...

by **BigGee** Sat 30 Sep 2023, 6:23 pm

That may well wrap it up and make the calculators redundant

Fabulous run and offload from Botica

Fiji had to gtibd in this game, but they have proved up to the task

by tigertattie Sat 30 Sep 2023, 6:24 pm

Some truly bonkers calls in the game from the ref

Waves play on thinking Georgia kicked after the Fiji knock on when it was a Fijian hand on the floor that scooped it back then the Fijian player who was tackled seals off his own ball by diving over the top of it and his hands are on the floor and the ref pings Georgia for coming in at the side.

Looks like the ref is trying to balance out the lad reffing that went against Fiji vs wales

by Old Man Sat 30 Sep 2023, 6:41 pm

My commisserations to Georgia, that was a brave attempt, thought a number of 50/50 calls went against them.

by Duty281 Sat 30 Sep 2023, 6:41 pm

Much closer than I thought it would be. It was a pretty terrible Fiji performance for the most part and they'll be relieved to get over the line.

by Heaf Sat 30 Sep 2023, 6:44 pm

So now we wait for the card lottery to report back ...

by Geordie Sat 30 Sep 2023, 6:58 pm

Stays at yellow

by Duty281 Sat 30 Sep 2023, 7:09 pm

Geordie wrote:Stays at yellow

Lolz.

by TJ Sun 01 Oct 2023, 7:59 am

Geordie wrote:Stays at yellow

As I predicted live. clearly fits the protocol for yellow

by Duty281 Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:00 pm

Portugal with some astonishing early play. They've got the first try against Australia.

by Geordie Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:02 pm

Some great play by Portugal....if they continue to develop wow...

by Geordie Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:03 pm

Oh dear...but the lottery is it a yellow or rwd

by Duty281 Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:05 pm

Oh, that's a shame after such a bright start. Should be red. Will it be? Who knows!

by Geordie Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:05 pm

There's Australia's get out if jail card

by doctor_grey Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:08 pm

Gawd, Richie Arnold looks older than me!

by No 7&1/2 Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:10 pm

Never a yellow that. So odd. Wonder if we go back to normal once wr have stopped trying to sell the game to casuals?

by Geordie Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:10 pm

Well the lottery continues

by Duty281 Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:10 pm

The dice are rolled, the coin is flipped....it remains yellow! Hurrah for Portugal.

by doctor_grey Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:26 pm

These commentary teams are awful.

by No 7&1/2 Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:31 pm

Some tackle I'm the corner. And I do like when Bell gets on a roll. Who doesn't like to seem people bouncing off a prop.

by doctor_grey Sun 01 Oct 2023, 5:49 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Some tackle I'm the corner. And I do like when Bell gets on a roll. Who doesn't like to seem people bouncing off a prop.

The people bouncing off your prop....

by No 7&1/2 Sun 01 Oct 2023, 6:09 pm

Another very generous high contact decision.

by No 7&1/2 Sun 01 Oct 2023, 6:12 pm

To overturn that you need a better angle than that surely.

by No 7&1/2 Sun 01 Oct 2023, 6:12 pm

Refs don't agree on the field.

by tigertattie Sun 01 Oct 2023, 6:18 pm

Oh here we go. A deliberate forearm to the face. Bet they don’t upgrade that to a red either.

by doctor_grey Sun 01 Oct 2023, 6:20 pm

Regardless of the outcome, Portugal has had a terrific RWC,

Also, I think their 15 is a pretty handy player.

by Heaf Sun 01 Oct 2023, 6:20 pm

Maybe they'll play the low degree of danger ploy ...

by Heaf Sun 01 Oct 2023, 6:23 pm

Called it

by doctor_grey Sun 01 Oct 2023, 6:32 pm

Glad Portugal got over the line.

by tigertattie Sun 01 Oct 2023, 6:33 pm

Who is in the bunker?

The protocol seems to be

1. Is the offender a SH player?
2. Is the opposition a NH team?

In the event either question is answered “yes” then yellow card only

by **Galted** Sun 01 Oct 2023, 6:36 pm

tigertattie wrote:Who is in the bunker?

The protocol seems to be

1. Is the offender a SH player?
2. Is the opposition a NH team?

In the event either question is answered “yes” then yellow card only

The amount of SH players playing in NH teams could be why it's all so confusing.

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