2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread

[Dr Gregory House MD]

First topic message reminder :

Now that the season has drawn to a close, I thought I'd put up a thread to discuss possible transfer business.

Rumours, Predictions, Hopes and Actualities all welcome here

[Hulking_up]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Negredo end up in the PL this season, especially as Moyes has been linked to him in the past and now has some money to spend.

If Suarez is still at Liverpool next season i hope he stays away from him.
With Evra around that has an FA hearing written all over it.

[Guest]

Well Ben Arfa pretty much definately going..where is the question...Monaco seem to be the one.

Also more concerning...rumours that PSG are tracking Cabaye are surfacing...

To be fair HBA is very injury prone, great player to watch but he needs to be playing at a higher level than us and he knows that. How much did we buy him for? Nice profit will be received from doing a deal with Monaco. Also Cabaye has tailed off in my opinion, at 27 or 28, maybe its time to move him on and seeing as we paid 4m and will will sell for over 15m sound a good deal. I think the hierarchy have realised we need more British steel in the team. We are financially in a good posotion , therefore I think there transfer strategy and the direction forward might have changed following this seasons woes.

Tom Ince for HBA & Will Hughes for Cabaye......would you take that?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Jesus Navas to Man City for a reported fee of £24 million

[Ent]

Interesting, thought navas had a history of being severely homesick?

Wonder how it will work out, good player but very slight and might take a year to settle in.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Interesting, thought navas had a history of being severely homesick?

Wonder how it will work out, good player but very slight and might take a year to settle in.

He does Ent, but he's basically far too good for Sevilla now, and I guess you can get over homesickness eventually.

He'll be a very good signing for City, give them a proper winger and width, which they so desperately lacked this year (Scott Sinclair was not and is not a viable option)

[Guest]

They were just talking about Navas on ESPN an they are right when they say his stats are a little shoddy. 36 games this season with 6 assists and no goals.

Stuart Downing type figures right there.

[GSC]

Navas is a quality player

[Ent]

Interesting, thought navas had a history of being severely homesick?

Wonder how it will work out, good player but very slight and might take a year to settle in.

He does Ent, but he's basically far too good for Sevilla now, and I guess you can get over homesickness eventually.

He'll be a very good signing for City, give them a proper winger and width, which they so desperately lacked this year (Scott Sinclair was not and is not a viable option)

I do think we over play the physicality of the pl but he is so slight that the majority of left backs in the country will be able to just lean into him and hamper his crossing etc

Just wonder if he doesn't hit the ground running might the homesickness kick in and it all ending in tears.

Exciting signing as he can beat men, be interesting to see what happens.

We should dredge up last seasons transfer page and see who made good predictions and do the same this summer.

[NickisBHAFC]

Navas is a class player. But now its time to see if he really is by showing his talent in the best league in the world. Time to see if he is the real deal!!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Interesting, thought navas had a history of being severely homesick?

Wonder how it will work out, good player but very slight and might take a year to settle in.

He does Ent, but he's basically far too good for Sevilla now, and I guess you can get over homesickness eventually.

He'll be a very good signing for City, give them a proper winger and width, which they so desperately lacked this year (Scott Sinclair was not and is not a viable option)

I do think we over play the physicality of the pl but he is so slight that the majority of left backs in the country will be able to just lean into him and hamper his crossing etc

Of course it will take him time to adapt to the more physical nature of the Prem than La Liga. Be interesting to see how he does

[Kenny]

not so much a transfer but i see Dave Whelan is upto his old tricks claiming Everton have agreed compensation for Martinez when Everton have stated they are still interviewing and have not reached an agreement with anyone

[GSC]

Dave Whelan can pee off forever

[Crimey]

The Navas signing makes sense, they had a serious lack of width last year with Scott Sinclair barely being used, and not really being Premier League winning quality anyway. It remains to be seen how successful he will be, his statistics don't look great and as others have pointed out, he apparently suffers from homesickness and is perhaps too slight for the Premier League.

Time will tell, but logically the signing makes sense. A consistently good winger is probably one of the hardest signings to make. At £17 million plus add ons, he's an expensive signing so might be expected to hit the ground running. Will be interesting to see where he is used and whether this will put a stop to the Isco move.

[Kenny]

According to Guillem Balague Navas is friends with David Silva and David De Gea so maybe they can help with the homesickness side of things

[Hero]

It wasnt just a little homesickness, it was a huge phobia that he had to the point where at times he had to withdraw from Spain training squads taking place in different parts of Spain. He's reportedly improved but a move to a different country is a big challenge.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Indeed, I do suppose its come to the point where he thinks its now or never to move and Spain's big clubs aren't interested. There's a reasonable amount of spaniards over here and generally the clubs are very good at moving players and their families. The Brazilians are well known for their social circles here, I'd imagine the Spanish are similar.

[Guest]

Just proves that Pelligrini has been in charge for a while already, ridiculous to make us believe negotiations only started this week, pull the other one. Holistic approach and focusing on youth development were the words coming out of City and now a £17m Spanish winger is joining the club and possibly £50 on Cavani. Talk about homesickness or whatever, this is purely a decision, at his age, to go abroad and get a big pay packet before his career is finished and he loses his pace. Yes, it's a good signing for City because they need width but I think he will find it difficult to adjust to the physicality, especially if there's rotation and he's not playing week in and week out.

[kingraf]

Navas has agreed in principle to join City. Pity he didnt join Chelsea, as they would have had Jesus on one flank and Moses on the other.

[monty junior]

Seemed a few days ago that Chelsea had all but signed Andre Schurrle from Bayer Leverkusen with De Bruyne going the other way on loan, KDB now seems to want to go to Dortmund permanently which could see Chelsea pay well over 20 million for Schurrle.

[Crimey]

I don't know they're bothering to be honest, he's not what they need at all.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Seems like they have his role pretty well covered. It would take a lot of injuries for someone not prem quality to be playing. And I don't think he's a good enough striker to be worth acquiring for that role.

[Gregers]

Navas is a class player. But now its time to see if he really is by showing his talent in the best league in the world. Time to see if he is the real deal!!

Didnt realise he was moving to the a team in the Championship...

[Kenny]

Wesley Sneijder to Chelsea ? Very good player but were does he play considering they already have Mata , Oscar and Hazard who can play in that attacking midfield role not to mention Lampard .

[GSC]

Sneijder's been pants since the WC. I wouldn't pay his massive wages.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Sevilla president "confirms" west ham bid €17m for Negredo. Not sure I think that happened but intriguing

[Kenny]

Hull City have upped their bid for Kasper Schmeichel to £1.8million according to his dad Peter .
They are also close to agreeing the free transfer of Maynor Figueroa from Wigan despite late interest from West Ham

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Interesting, I really thought we'd snap up Figeuroa but having got Rat I don't see why we'd need him so makes sense. I'd be 100% confident any deal would have a relegation release sewn into his contract

[Kenny]

All Hull City's deals with current and incoming players have relegation clauses in them .

[Holymiky]

What strikers can you guys see Chelsea bidding for other than Shurrle? I think Shurrle would be great but I'm intrigued to see if it happens or not.

[Guest]

I think Negredo is out of West Ham's league but does that mean Carroll to West Ham is unlikely or off. If so, can easily see Newcastle coming back into the mix for Carroll, need his physical presence and steel up front. The Sneijder story just doesn't seem legit, it's easy to just randomly link Mourinho's past players to Chelsea. Sneijder's form has dropped considerably over the last 18 months too and Chelsea already have a wealth of options. I can't see the Schurrle deal going through anymore, now Jose has arrived.

[Kenny]

Would Chelsea keep Lukaku this season after all he is supposed to be the new Drogba and he had a good year a WBA ?

[Crimey]

I can definitely see them keeping Lukaku, they'd be wise to as well. Focus on securing a good central midfield partnership.

[The Special Juan]

I wonder if Soldado will move now considering Valencia never made the CL. He'd be a good bargain for someone.

[monty junior]

Think he'd still cost close to 20 million..

[The Special Juan]

I dunno, if there's one thing the Spanish clubs outside El Clasico aren't in a position to do, it's demand high fees. I think every club in La Liga is riddled with debt. I'd hazard a guess at him being worth whatever Negredo goes for (knowing my luck, that'll be £20m ).

[Fernando]

Was a rumor a few weeks ago about a 10m deal to Everton provided the new manager wanted him

[Kenny]

West Ham have had a £14.5m bid for Sevilla striker Alvaro Negredo rejected, according to the Spanish club's president.

Jose Maria Del Nido said Sevilla were under no pressure to sell, having already agreed a £17m-plus deal with Manchester City for winger Jesus Navas.

"West Ham offered 17m (euros) with more in incentives but we do not value the offer and the player refused," he said.

[Guest]

Martinez would probably be able to attract some Spanish contingent over to Merseyside and a striker in the form of Soldado or Negredo would be great additions. Financially though, would a deal be possible without selling a Baines or a Fellaini. Think players like Navas, Negredo, Michu and Soldado are realising that their careers are unfulfilled and that a big pay day in the EPL is needed to really secure their long term future, something they probably won't get in La Liga. It's good to see all the Spain B side basically coming over the EPL over the years, who aren't good enough for Barca or Real, but then end up being the stars of the EPL or having a significant impact.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I'd heard Soldado was a possibility for spurs along with Damiao. Negredo is just a little bit too good for us in our current guise, we'd need to push the top 7 a little more to be able to convince people of his ilk that we might be going places. Doesn't seem likely we'd buy two big money strikers so this was either never a full official bid or Carroll isn't certain. Could be both, I think we've definitely got alternatives, like our early interest in Bony.

[Nakatomi Plaza]

If the reports that Carroll wants £100k a week to join West Ham are true, then I'm not surprised West Ham are looking at other strikers.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

In the tale of the tape with Andy Carroll this summer I have now read that Carroll was definitely staying to fight at Liverpool, definitely off to Newcastle, a possible spurs target, would take a paycut, wants 100k, would only come back on loan, was to be priced out of a move cos west ham would only pay 10m and would be subject to Liverpool wanting more money and only accepting bids of 20m. All this when the reason for the delay is cos he's on holiday! Journalism.

It's become apparent that this Negredo bid was two months ago, which fits with tweets from Jack Sullivan that we were discussing a deal for a European striker whilst the season was still in play and a story a month ago from Negredo's agent that the player wasn't interested in West Ham. So I'm guessing someone else has shown interest in him and this is a bargaining ploy.

Papers also reporting City have got a deal for Fernandinho, whilst Chelsea may hijack any Arsenal deal for Jovetic

[Nakatomi Plaza]

The Telegraph sound pretty convinced about Fernandinho. If City follow up their interest in Isco, their first choice midfield could look something like this;

TOURE FERNANDINHO

NAVAS ISCO SILVA


Looks pretty frightening. Probably spells the end of Samir Nasri's career there as well.

I've seen Jovetic linked to Chelsea before. Be a bit of a strange one for me, as I think Chelsea are overloaded with similar types of players after signing Schurrle.

[VDT]

Its being reported that Monaco will offer John Terry a TAX FREE £150k a week to leave Chelsea! Financial Fair Play in Action Here! Ha!

[Crimey]

It's weird how everybody appears to support Financial Fair Play when it actually supports the bigger clubs. I know it's not perfect that the only way sides become more competitive is through huge amounts of money being pumped into them, but that's a problem with larger football. Manchester City and Chelsea being given lots of money has been good for the Premier League I think.

Chelsea seem to be linked with all the wrong kinds of players, they need a good defensive midfielder and a good deep lying playmaker. Their current selection of central midfielders is woeful. I like Luiz but he's probably not disciplined enough to play in a 4-2-3-1 formation as one of the 'pivots', Mikel is far too slow and not proactive enough at winning the ball back, Ramires is alright but is a bit like Luiz in that he doesn't have the discipline to play as one of the pivots, nor does he have the passing ability, but he's obviously not a defensive midfielder. Lampard is too slow and too interested in bombing forward to be a deep lying playmaker.

Either Chelsea need a change of system, which I can't see happening as Mourinho has always been a fan of the 4-2-3-1, or they need to find two good central midfield pivots in the mould of Xabi Alonso and Sami Khedira, or Bastien Schweinsteiger and Javi Martinez who are the two best central midfield pivots in world football.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

They need a Xabi Alonso beside Ramires. Oscar Hazard and Mata will do the rest if they have a workhorse and a disciplined holding passer behind them. Ramires does the box to box legwork, now they need to find their own Carrick. And a striker. Is Lukaku good enough to be a title winning striker right now? Probably not quite, and it seems Chelsea dont think so either. Roman is like many other chairmen, he'll find big money for a goalscorer as they are the most exciting players. A really good centre back wouldn't go amiss either, although I think Jose will improve all of them, Cahill especially.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

They need a LB to replace Cole eventually as well

[VDT]

It's weird how everybody appears to support Financial Fair Play when it actually supports the bigger clubs. I know it's not perfect that the only way sides become more competitive is through huge amounts of money being pumped into them, but that's a problem with larger football. Manchester City and Chelsea being given lots of money has been good for the Premier League I think.

Chelsea seem to be linked with all the wrong kinds of players, they need a good defensive midfielder and a good deep lying playmaker. Their current selection of central midfielders is woeful. I like Luiz but he's probably not disciplined enough to play in a 4-2-3-1 formation as one of the 'pivots', Mikel is far too slow and not proactive enough at winning the ball back, Ramires is alright but is a bit like Luiz in that he doesn't have the discipline to play as one of the pivots, nor does he have the passing ability, but he's obviously not a defensive midfielder. Lampard is too slow and too interested in bombing forward to be a deep lying playmaker.

Either Chelsea need a change of system, which I can't see happening as Mourinho has always been a fan of the 4-2-3-1, or they need to find two good central midfield pivots in the mould of Xabi Alonso and Sami Khedira, or Bastien Schweinsteiger and Javi Martinez who are the two best central midfield pivots in world football.

Don't forget, Essien will be back next season but do really like Khedira and Schweinsteiger, think they'd to great additions to the premier league. But i'd prefer Schweinsteiger to come to United!

Surely under Financial Fair Play it can't fair that a club can basically have a smaller wage bill but the players get more money because a tax haven. Chelsea would be pay Terry £300k for him to take home £150k a week!

[Crimey]

It's weird how everybody appears to support Financial Fair Play when it actually supports the bigger clubs. I know it's not perfect that the only way sides become more competitive is through huge amounts of money being pumped into them, but that's a problem with larger football. Manchester City and Chelsea being given lots of money has been good for the Premier League I think.

Chelsea seem to be linked with all the wrong kinds of players, they need a good defensive midfielder and a good deep lying playmaker. Their current selection of central midfielders is woeful. I like Luiz but he's probably not disciplined enough to play in a 4-2-3-1 formation as one of the 'pivots', Mikel is far too slow and not proactive enough at winning the ball back, Ramires is alright but is a bit like Luiz in that he doesn't have the discipline to play as one of the pivots, nor does he have the passing ability, but he's obviously not a defensive midfielder. Lampard is too slow and too interested in bombing forward to be a deep lying playmaker.

Either Chelsea need a change of system, which I can't see happening as Mourinho has always been a fan of the 4-2-3-1, or they need to find two good central midfield pivots in the mould of Xabi Alonso and Sami Khedira, or Bastien Schweinsteiger and Javi Martinez who are the two best central midfield pivots in world football.

Don't forget, Essien will be back next season but do really like Khedira and Schweinsteiger, think they'd to great additions to the premier league. But i'd prefer Schweinsteiger to come to United!

Surely under Financial Fair Play it can't fair that a club can basically have a smaller wage bill but the players get more money because a tax haven. Chelsea would be pay Terry £300k for him to take home £150k a week!

That's not fair, but that's down to international rules rather than football. Monaco is a tax-haven outside of football too.

Essien is not even close to the player he once was, he did okay at Madrid but was mostly used as a right back. I wouldn't be surprised to see him sold, even if Mourinho is a fan.

[The Special Juan]

I thought FFP was designed to keeo clubs living within their means. Surely the £80m Monaco have spent so far along with the wages that accompany it can't be recuperated with shirt sales, sponsoring, ticket sales etc? I know it favours the big clubs but as I said, I thought the purpose was to stop things like this happening.

[Crimey]

I thought FFP was designed to keeo clubs living within their means. Surely the £80m Monaco have spent so far along with the wages that accompany it can't be recuperated with shirt sales, sponsoring, ticket sales etc? I know it favours the big clubs but as I said, I thought the purpose was to stop things like this happening.

Big clubs will get away with it.

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