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Post by KP_fan Thu 31 Oct 2013, 10:01 am

First topic message reminder :

The Indian team was declared...Jadeja rested owing to shoulder strain?
why does he continue to bowl in the masala ODIs?
Rohit has been sneaked into the squad
 
leaving out Zaheer is a mistake.......unless they do not want to risk with Zaheer as one of the bolwers in a 4 man attack given that Jadeja is out.
 
There was no comeback for Zaheer Khan despite his five wickets in Mumbai's Ranji Trophy opener, and allrounder Ravindra Jadeja was rested because of a shoulder strain, but Ishant Sharma retained his place despite his struggle for form in recent limited-overs games. India's squad also has a spinner of each variety - an offspinner in R Ashwin, a left-armer in Pragyan Ojha and Mishra.


India's top order is fairly settled with Shikhar Dhawan and M Vijay opening, followed by Cheteshwar Pujara, Sachin Tendulkar, who will be playing his final series, and Virat Kohli. Ajinkya Rahane was the incumbent at No. 6 in the fourth Test against Australia in Delhi, but Rohit Sharma could be pushing for a Test debut after consistent limited-overs performances.


Squad: MS Dhoni (capt), Shikhar Dhawan, M Vijay, Cheteshwar Pujara, Sachin Tendulkar, Virat Kohli, R Ashwin, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Pragyan Ojha, Amit Mishra, Ajinkya Rahane, Umesh Yadav, Shami Ahmed, Rohit Sharma, Ishant Sharma.


from BCCI's website
Ravindra Jadeja has a shoulder strain. The Physiotherapist of the Indian team has advised two weeks’ rest for him, after the end of the ODI series against Australia, as a precautionary measure


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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Nov 2013, 7:27 pm

If Ashwin has to get there in the next 3 test, then he better do a lot of the work in the next game. Steyn, Philander and Morkel won't let him get there so easily.

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Post by KP_fan Sat 09 Nov 2013, 7:51 pm

msp83 wrote:If Ashwin has to get there in the next 3 test, then he better do a lot of the work in the next game. Steyn, Philander and Morkel won't let him get there so easily.
 
if he equals Botham is also OK....so he has 4 tests...and the issue is getting 260 runs
 
he will get realitsically 1  inning vs. WI, 4 against SA and let's say 1 against NZ
 
6 innings......and if he just about maintains his average he will scramble past the line
 
althouhg another hundred against WI will make it less of a struggle Very Happy
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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Nov 2013, 8:02 pm

Considering the first test got over in 3 days, the powers that be might be thinking of playing the next game on the Mumbai-Thane highway. Remains to be seen how much of a chance Ashwin will have.......

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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Nov 2013, 8:08 pm

West Indies's lead fast bowler Kemar Roach has been ruled out of the tour. Roach missed the first test with a shoulder injury and hasn't recovered as expected. He's flying back home, and Shannon Gabriel will be joining the squad as replacement. Despite his very obvious promise, Roach has been battling injuries for the last year and a half.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-west-indies-2013-14/content/current/story/687223.html

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Post by KP_fan Wed 13 Nov 2013, 5:00 am

India's ODI squad declared and unbelievably jadej unfit for test....is back fit again....
good to see Mohit Sharma in.
surprised to see Yuvraj reatin his place

MS Dhoni (capt), Shikhar Dhawan, Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, Yuvraj Singh, Suresh Raina, Ravindra Jadeja, R Ashwin, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Mohammed Shami, Ambati Rayudu, Amit Mishra, Jaydev Unadkat, Dhawal Kulkarni, Mohit Sharma
In: Dhawal Kulkarni, Mohit Sharma
Out: Ishant Sharma, Vinay Kumar
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Post by KP_fan Wed 13 Nov 2013, 5:10 am

the good news though.....Ishant and Vinay kumar have been beaten by Bailey, Faulkner and Maxwell out of the Indian team.

Ishant will be back in no time
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Post by ShankyCricket Wed 13 Nov 2013, 7:33 am

One of KPfan's "core player" predictions has already been dropped. Very Happy 

Of course he may be back in no time (I really hope not) but at least this shows he isn't considered a certainty for the World Cup just as yet.

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Post by msp83 Wed 13 Nov 2013, 7:41 am

Good to see Mohit in. And very glad to see the back of Ishant Sharma. Kulkarni, I am not too sure. Would have liked it to be Rishi Dhawan.

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Post by msp83 Wed 13 Nov 2013, 7:43 am

Hope Rayudu can produce a massive performance in the Ranji game he is to play before the series starts so that both Yuvraj and Raina will be kept on notice. Rayudu had a good start to the season, but the big innings never came as the rest of the batting lineup wasn't really up to supporting him.

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Post by KP_fan Wed 13 Nov 2013, 12:50 pm

ShankyCricket wrote:One of KPfan's "core player" predictions has already been dropped. Very Happy 
if Ishant's pefromances were the criteria....he would not have made so many comebacks.
after a few odd games.....he will be back and selectors will pretend as if this debacle bolwing show against Aus did not happen

Of course he may be back in no time (I really hope not) but at least this shows he isn't considered a certainty for the World Cup just as yet.
see you yoursefl know what might happen soon Very Happy 
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Post by KP_fan Wed 13 Nov 2013, 12:52 pm

msp83 wrote:Hope Rayudu can produce a massive performance in the Ranji game he is to play before the series starts so that both Yuvraj and Raina will be kept on notice. Rayudu had a good start to the season, but the big innings never came as the rest of the batting lineup wasn't really up to supporting him.
 
youvraj is on notice...Raina was " sacrificing " himsefl for the team by agreeing to bat at no. 4 instead of his usual No. 6:)

In the worst case...he will move down to No. 6 and get a very long rope in that spot
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Post by KP_fan Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:37 am

Dhoni lost all but one tosses against Eng....all vs. Aus and all vs WI...that is 9 out of 10 tosses.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu 14 Nov 2013, 10:05 am

India with a great start to the test. WI all out for under 200 as they implode against spin again. Dhawan and Vijay got off to a good start before Dhawan got a bit over-confident and top-edged a slog off Shillingford, and two balls later Shillingford has another as he gets some turn and bounce and Vijay is caught at leg slip off bat and pad.

Guard of honour for Tendulkar as he walks to the crease for maybe the last time clap

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Post by Gerry SA Thu 14 Nov 2013, 10:14 am

So Shane Shillingford vs India continues.

Gotta wonder if they'd selected Bishoo or Narine, India might've been under more pressure.

Tino Best, amazingly, has a record worst than Ishant Sharma - still gets picked. Best, whilst fast, has limited skills.

Tendulkar off the mark with a swipe to deep square leg. Has he got one more big innings left?

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Post by alfie Thu 14 Nov 2013, 10:25 am

Well if it is his last innings he has at least made more than Bradman Smile 

Nice boundary off Shillingford there might have settled any nerves...and there goes another one clap 

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Post by alfie Thu 14 Nov 2013, 10:48 am

The stats experts telling us that Tendulkar has now hit 2050 fours in Tests !
So more runs in boundaries alone than all but a handful of players...

I am not going to say he is looking good or any other fate-tempting comment - as the fifty stand comes up - but I have enjoyed watching his efforts in this session.

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Post by KP_fan Thu 14 Nov 2013, 11:40 am

India's central contrcats announced:

--the news in bold will indicate why it is impossible to even touch Raina Smile
--and Ishant should have been down-graded to Grade C...but is obviously not
--and droppign Sehwag completely is understandable
--but Zaheer deserves one last go so he should have been in Grade C atleast as well as Bhajji.

it seems selectors are looking beyond Bhaj, Zaheer and Sehwag now
 
No central contract for Zaheer, Sehwag
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November 14, 2013
 
Comments: 35 | Login via  | Text size: A | A Zaheer Khan and Virender Sehwag find themselves out of a central contract for the 2013-14 season, while Gautam Gambhir and Yuvraj Singh find themselves downgraded in the BCCI's retainer list, released on Thursday. Harbhajan Singh, too, is without a central contract this season.
 
Suresh Raina is the surprise inclusion among the five players in the highest grade; the others are captain MS Dhoni, Sachin Tendulkar, R Ashwin and Virat Kohli.
 
The contracts run from October 1, 2013, to September 30, 2014.
 
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Grade A (Rs 1 crore/US$ 158,000 approx): Sachin Tendulkar, MS Dhoni, Virat Kohli, R Ashwin, Suresh Raina
 
Grade B (Rs 50 lakh/US$ 79,000 approx): Gautam Gambhir, Yuvraj Singh, Pragyan Ojha, Ishant Sharma, M Vijay, Shikhar Dhawan, Umesh Yadav, Cheteshwar Pujara, Ravindra Jadeja, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Rohit Sharma
 
Grade C (Rs 25 lakh/US$ 40,000 approx): Dinesh Karthik, Amit Mishra, Wriddhiman Saha, Ajinkya Rahane, Ambati Rayudu, Vinay Kumar, Mohammed Shami, Jaydev Unadkat, Mohit Sharma
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Post by KP_fan Thu 14 Nov 2013, 12:21 pm

and Kulkarni injures himsefl........so the punished Vinay Kumar is back.
 
what is their grouse against Pandey and sandeep Sharma and kaul....
sharma might be a conditons bowler like praveen and B Kumars.....but Kaul and pandey I hear can hit the deck hard
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Post by msp83 Thu 14 Nov 2013, 1:29 pm

Will come back to the match details later, but has anyone seen the dismissal of the West Indies skipper? Did anyone see him getting out in the first innings of the last test? Anyone here still think that he should be in the side? Michael Holding thinks Sammy shouldn't be in the team, and I wholeheartedly agree.

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Post by Guest Thu 14 Nov 2013, 1:48 pm

yet again a diabolical performance from the windies, led by Sammy!!!!! This will be Sachin's last innings, i cant see India having to bat again from this position.

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Post by KP_fan Thu 14 Nov 2013, 1:53 pm

CF wrote:yet again a diabolical performance from the windies, led by Sammy!!!!! This will be Sachin's last innings, i cant see India having to bat again from this position.
the beauty of cricket is that it is so unpredictable
one fine spell of reverse swing or a spinner running throuhg and a couple of good knocks from windies baatsman and India could be chasing 250+ in the 4th inning.

Less likely...but very possible.
Let Tendulkar get a 100 and go out on a very high note tomm......and Indian wins on D3 is the best case for all.
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Post by KP_fan Thu 14 Nov 2013, 1:54 pm

msp83 wrote:Will come back to the match details later, but has anyone seen the dismissal of the West Indies skipper? Did anyone see him getting out in the first innings of the last test? Anyone here still think that he should be in the side? Michael Holding thinks Sammy shouldn't be in the team, and I wholeheartedly agree.
I made this point earlier.....Windies do not care for test cricket.

tests mean to Windies as much as T20s means to England.
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Post by sirfredperry Thu 14 Nov 2013, 2:04 pm

Well a Sachin hundred would be a great way to go out, especially as it looks like he may not get another knock. Bet those with tickets for Friday were holding their breath in those last few minutes.
You've got to be about 32 years old to have any real memories of an Indian Test team without Tendulkar. Gonna seem pretty strange for Indian cricket without him. Yes, there will be new heroes, but will any of them play so well for so long?

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 14 Nov 2013, 2:14 pm

I thought Sachin looked quite spectacular today. Some tremendous shots, most notably a sumptuous on-drive off the bowling of Sammy.

The atmosphere looked simply incredible; the roar that met Dhawan's dismissal was astonishing!

Pleased for those in attendance today and tomorrow that Sachin made it through to the close. Moving scenes as he walked off with fans in the crowd bowing, praying, applauding, cheering and in some instances crying. Such scenes can be hard to comprehend for an English sports fan, but I couldn't help but get caught up in the emotion of it all - at 26 years old I've never known India without Sachin. The thought of it is a strange one.

As Sir Fred says, though, they've some excellent youngsters to carry on his work. THE era of Indian cricket is over, but a new one which promises to prosper is definitely upon us.

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Post by KP_fan Thu 14 Nov 2013, 2:41 pm

Ashwin gets to his 100 wickets in 17.5 tests

and look at the larger than life names in the list of fastest to 100 wickets.....inspite of 90% of those wickets coming in India......likes of Kumble , Ajmal have taken 3 mores tests than him

GA Lohmann (Eng) v South Africa Johannesburg 2 Mar 1896 5 Jul 1886 9y 241d 16 Test # 48
CTB Turner (Aus) v England Sydney 1 Feb 1895 28 Jan 1887 8y 4d 17 Test # 45
SF Barnes (Eng) v Australia Sydney 23 Feb 1912 13 Dec 1901 10y 72d 17 Test # 120
CV Grimmett (Aus) v West Indies Brisbane 16 Jan 1931 27 Feb 1925 5y 323d 17 Test # 203
R Ashwin (India) v West Indies Mumbai 14 Nov 2013 6 Nov 2011 2y 8d 18 Test # 2102
C Blythe (Eng) v South Africa Cape Town 11 Mar 1910 13 Dec 1901 8y 88d 19 Test # 110
AL Valentine (WI) v England Georgetown 24 Feb 1954 8 Jun 1950 3y 261d 19 Test # 384
AME Roberts (WI) v England Leeds 22 Jul 1976 6 Mar 1974 2y 138d 19 Test # 780
IT Botham (Eng) v India Lord's 2 Aug 1979 28 Jul 1977 2y 5d 19 Test # 852
Saeed Ajmal (Pak) v England Abu Dhabi 25 Jan 2012 4 Jul 2009 2y 205d 19 Test # 2032
R Peel (Eng) v Australia The Oval 10 Aug 1896 12 Dec 1884 11y 242d 20 Test # 52
MW Tate (Eng) v Australia Sydney 14 Dec 1928 14 Jun 1924 4y 183d 20 Test # 177
WJ O'Reilly (Aus) v England Melbourne 1 Jan 1937 29 Jan 1932 4y 338d 20 Test # 257
WW Hall (WI) v India Kingston 7 Mar 1962 28 Nov 1958 3y 99d 20 Test # 526
EAS Prasanna (India) v Australia Delhi 28 Nov 1969 10 Jan 1962 7y 322d 20 Test # 667
Waqar Younis (Pak) v New Zealand Hamilton 2 Jan 1993 15 Nov 1989 3y 48d 20 Test # 1207
DW Steyn (SA) v Bangladesh Chittagong 29 Feb 2008 17 Dec 2004 3y 74d 20 Test # 1865
Mohammad Asif (Pak) v England Nottingham 29 Jul 2010 2 Jan 2005 5y 208d 20 Test # 1967
J Garner (WI) v Pakistan Multan 30 Dec 1980 18 Feb 1977 3y 316d 21 Test # 892
CEH Croft (WI) v England Port of Spain 13 Feb 1981 18 Feb 1977 3y 361d 21 Test # 896
IR Bishop (WI) v England Birmingham 6 Jul 1995 25 Mar 1989 6y 103d 21 Test # 1300
A Kumble (India) v New Zealand Bangalore 18 Oct 1995 9 Aug 1990 5y 70d 21 Test # 1308
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Post by msp83 Thu 14 Nov 2013, 3:14 pm

Very creditable from Ashwin. Hopes he sticks to his strengths rather than trying too many things, and also work out a better method to succeed in non-subcontinental conditions.

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Post by Guest Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:07 pm

God knows what possessed Sammy to play that shot which he got out with! Then with the ball was very average indeed!

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Post by msp83 Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:33 pm

The West Indies batting was awful ones again. Their big guns, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Marlon Samuels and Chris Gayle couldn't produce the goods, their good players Darren Bravo and Kieran Powell couldn't build on the starts, and their non--test quality players Darren Sammy and Denesh Ramdin proved that they are just that, not good enough for test cricket, and Narsingh Deonarine couldn't make much of an impact either.
All of India's 4 bowlers bowled well. Shami again bowled with pace and had the mental edge over Marlon Samuels and did all but take his wicket. As the West Indies didn't last too long, he wasn't called up on to show his reverse swing capabilities. Bhuvneshwar Kumar couldn't take out Chris Gayle today as Shami beat him to it, but he bowled the ball of the match so far to get Chanderpaul. He was rather unlucky to not to add Powell or Bravo to his victims, Bravo was cluless against him, and Powell was put down by Ashwin at slips. Ravichandran Ashwin got the ball to bounce and turn in the first session, and again resisted the urge to try too many things, and ended up with 3 wickets. Pragyan Ojha bowled better than he did in the first test, and this time the good luck that eluded him for most of the first test was largely with him, as he picked up a much deserved 5for.
Shikhar Dhawan and Murali Vijay found it a bit too easy at times and then couldn't build on the starts. Test runs won't come all that easy, and they shouldn't miss out on the available opportunities like this. Particularly so with Dhawan who could have avoided the rather unnecessary sweep from way outside off that resulted in his wicket. Shane Shillingford continues to be the only bowler who can challenge the Indians. The West Indies are really missing Kemar Roach. Tino Best has pace and not much else, Shannon Gabriel isn't really experienced, and Sammy is an utter joke of an opening bowler. Perhaps a handy 5th bowler/4th seamer, but nowhere near good enough as he seems to believe as he chose to open the bowling himself with those earth shattering 120 KPH bullets.

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Post by msp83 Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:35 pm

Cheteshwar Pujara has got of to a start, and Sachin Tendulkar has looked good in his stay at the wicket. India would be hoping for a decisive first innings lead before the bowlers get down to work again.
But cricket is a strange game, West Indies had taken 5 wickets in a session when India resumed on day 2 of the Kolkata test.......

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Post by msp83 Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:39 pm

CF wrote:God knows what possessed Sammy to play that shot which he got out with! Then with the ball was very average indeed!
No surprises there, he has done it far too many times in his career. Its news only when he shows something remotely close to common sense. Total waste of space.......

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Post by Guest Thu 14 Nov 2013, 9:09 pm

Gayle has looked horribly out of nick on this tour as well....even in India, he looks awful against a swinging ball!!

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Post by skyeman Thu 14 Nov 2013, 9:53 pm

Sachin Tendulka was undoubtedly a great batsman in the history of cricket but was he a great cricketer.?

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 4:04 am

skyeman wrote:Sachin Tendulka was undoubtedly a great batsman in the history of cricket but was he a great cricketer.?
What is your criterion of defining someone as cricketer man..
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 4:10 am

Two consecutive boundries. Each of his shot is reminding me many of his beautiful innings and splendid shot he has played.
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 4:16 am

Huge shout...but ball away from body..From where the sound has come? Sachin is safe.
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 4:19 am

Sweep down the third man. Tendulkar will keep the strike. 48*
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 4:24 am

Tendulkar was going for upper cut. Missed. Tino at his best.
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 4:26 am

What a reply!!! A superb straight drive, Each of his straight drive got flashed in my memory. Sachin 52*
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 4:28 am

Cut shot and four.
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 4:53 am

Fourth half century for Pujara.
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Post by msp83 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 6:08 am

Tendulkar couldn't quite go on to a hundred. He was out for 74. It was the parttime spinner Narsingh Deonarine who got him, probably for the last time in international cricket. It was the best that Sachin looked at the crase after his 81 against the Australians early this year. It was a fine knock from Sachin. Hopefully India deliver a big win as parting gift for the great man.
And oh yes, Sachin Tendulkar is a great batsman and a great cricketer.

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Post by msp83 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 6:10 am

India go to lunch at 282-3, exactly hundred a head. Pujara on 85, Kohli on 36.

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Post by msp83 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 7:16 am

Kohli gone for 57. He was making things look pretty easy out there, but a good one from Shillingford takes the edge and goes to Sammy at slip. Rohit Sharma joins Pujara, and India have moved along to 319-4.

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Post by msp83 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 7:21 am

Hundred for Cheteshwar Pujara.

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Post by msp83 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 7:45 am

Pujara can't convert it into a big one, He's gone for 113, Shillingford gets his 4th. India 355-5 as the skipper joins Rohit Sharma batting on 24.

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Post by msp83 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 7:46 am

The new ball just an over away. Will Sammy take it?

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Post by KP_fan Fri 15 Nov 2013, 8:05 am

The day and actually the last 2 days Tendulkar overshadowed the otehr 21 players and the test match.
I was critical ( always overtly and sometimes overly) of him for hanging on too late.....but I am glad the gods smiled on him and his hundreds of million supporters that he produced two gems in his last Ranji and test innings.
The end of a glorious Tendulkar Era......lasting quarter of a century......Indian cricket team, national stabilty, economy was all in tatters........and the last quarter century has seen the rise of the nation and it's cricket team....overseas wins, No.1 rankings, world cups....he saw it all.....amidst shining consistent performance almost till the end.
 
Future in safe and promising hands thouhg with the emergence of Dhawan, Kohli, Pujara, Rohit, Ashwin and Jadeja....Captain Dhoni's boys.......as everyone of Cpatain Ganguly's boys are gone from the present.
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Post by KP_fan Fri 15 Nov 2013, 8:16 am

Ashwin's gotta bat carefully here........he is unlikely to get a second inning.....and must make the most of 4'0 overs today....actualy India will bat until as long as they dont get bowleed out.....

he sould try and get a 70 + to take him closer to 1000 run mark
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Post by msp83 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 8:26 am

India 401-6.

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Post by msp83 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 8:44 am

Ravichandran Ashwin is the 7th Indian batsman to get a start. But other than Pujara, none of them have converted it into a hundred. Ashwin gone for 30.
India go to tea at 413-7. They've batted for only 89 overs so far, that isn't even a full day's quota as yet. The lead is 231.

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