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Very tight period of play leading up to next drink break : Anderson and Woakes bowling really well.
So far , Pujara and Kohli have held them out , if not scoring. You feel this partnership may well be key to the game.
So far , Pujara and Kohli have held them out , if not scoring. You feel this partnership may well be key to the game.
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Ah, the Pujura Kohli first innings partnership, also known as the point I stop following it and check in about four hours to see which one got to their hundred first
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Mid-way through the afternoon session and England now desperately need a wicket or three before tea. India 95 for 2.
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104/2 as we go into the 41st over.
Batty still hasn't bowled. You have to start raising an eyebrow at that decision or, if not, the decision to play him.
Batty still hasn't bowled. You have to start raising an eyebrow at that decision or, if not, the decision to play him.
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Terrible ball from Rashid. That wasn't just a pie. It was a pie with chips and gravy!
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I have said all along that three spinners is a bad policy for England with a captain who clearly A) isn't tactically adept at captaining them B) doesn't have a great deal of confidence in them.
onto the match situation...
-restrict India to 300....We would be well in the game
-restrict India to 350.... We would be in the game, but would need to bat very well second time round
-India get 400....England would be right up against it and barring a miracle would lose the game by about 6/7 wickets.
-India get 450 + ....We can start the rain dance, if we bat very well we would probably lose by about 8 wickets.
Not looking good unfortunately....
onto the match situation...
-restrict India to 300....We would be well in the game
-restrict India to 350.... We would be in the game, but would need to bat very well second time round
-India get 400....England would be right up against it and barring a miracle would lose the game by about 6/7 wickets.
-India get 450 + ....We can start the rain dance, if we bat very well we would probably lose by about 8 wickets.
Not looking good unfortunately....
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Rashid bowled pretty well for a fair while then. But there were a few gifts - and that last one was wrapped and decorated indeed...
Batty on at last. Curious he's been held back quite so long ; but I guess with the seamers doing a good part of the work this afternoon there hasn't been the opportunity : Moeen has only bowled four overs.
This pair of India's two best players threatening to take a real grip on this match...
Batty on at last. Curious he's been held back quite so long ; but I guess with the seamers doing a good part of the work this afternoon there hasn't been the opportunity : Moeen has only bowled four overs.
This pair of India's two best players threatening to take a real grip on this match...
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LivinginItaly wrote:I have said all along that three spinners is a bad policy for England with a captain who clearly A) isn't tactically adept at captaining them B) doesn't have a great deal of confidence in them.
onto the match situation...
-restrict India to 300....We would be well in the game
-restrict India to 350.... We would be in the game, but would need to bat very well second time round
-India get 400....England would be right up against it and barring a miracle would lose the game by about 6/7 wickets.
-India get 450 + ....We can start the rain dance, if we bat very well we would probably lose by about 8 wickets.
Not looking good unfortunately....
Can't argue with that summary . Nor with the "not looking good" .
England just have to stay switched on and hope that when they do get a break , one will bring two or three. Which could happen...trouble is these two just don't look like getting out. They've done what England rather failed to do ; remained patient and picked off the bad balls.
Getting a few too many bad balls now : I don't like the line Batty is bowling.
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India developing a stranglehold on this test match as they reach tea on 148 for 2. They are in the box seat now to press for a lead in excess of 100 runs by tea tomorrow. It is almost like a replay of the last test and it will end up in the same result unless England can find a way back.
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so far India has had a good day......brilliant little spell this morning by Sami....to keep Eng 17 runs short of 300....and 148-2 at tea
Patel batted like a specialist batsman.....as I remembered him from 8 years back.....compact defense, leaves well outside the off stump and negotiates short ball well too.. ......can drive well in the V both on the rise and when pitched up but a bit limited in all round stroke play other wise......nudges & pushes a lot behind square.
His dismissal was freakish.....you don't expect ball to be hitting when batsman is so far down the pitch on a spinning pitch...something to do with trajectory projection calibration.
Murali Vija needs to concentrate better......in the remaining 2 and 1/2 tests left for him....both him and Rahul gotta focus better...
should India not lose more than a wicket in the last session and then it would be a perfect day for India.
Eng one bowler too many....Ballance may not be in the greatest of form....yet he would have added more than Batty batting at no.10 and coming in as a change bowler and looking no more than a change bowler.
To be honest Batty and Rashid like they are bowling now on a pitch not turning square but slow and low........every Ranji side has two such bowlers.
Patel batted like a specialist batsman.....as I remembered him from 8 years back.....compact defense, leaves well outside the off stump and negotiates short ball well too.. ......can drive well in the V both on the rise and when pitched up but a bit limited in all round stroke play other wise......nudges & pushes a lot behind square.
His dismissal was freakish.....you don't expect ball to be hitting when batsman is so far down the pitch on a spinning pitch...something to do with trajectory projection calibration.
Murali Vija needs to concentrate better......in the remaining 2 and 1/2 tests left for him....both him and Rahul gotta focus better...
should India not lose more than a wicket in the last session and then it would be a perfect day for India.
Eng one bowler too many....Ballance may not be in the greatest of form....yet he would have added more than Batty batting at no.10 and coming in as a change bowler and looking no more than a change bowler.
To be honest Batty and Rashid like they are bowling now on a pitch not turning square but slow and low........every Ranji side has two such bowlers.
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Poor bowling from Batty to finish the session. 148/2. India in a strong position.
Pujara and Kohli looking like the quality Test batsmen they are and setting a perfect example to England's top order. Patience applied as required and then full advantage taken of the bad balls that came their way.
Willis was highly critical last night of how England had thrown away too many of their wickets in an unnecessary dash for runs. Taking a leaf out of Craig's book, he emphasised our road map for day one should have been to reach stumps around 250/2. Willis does play to the camera a lot but I feel he was right there.
Pujara and Kohli looking like the quality Test batsmen they are and setting a perfect example to England's top order. Patience applied as required and then full advantage taken of the bad balls that came their way.
Willis was highly critical last night of how England had thrown away too many of their wickets in an unnecessary dash for runs. Taking a leaf out of Craig's book, he emphasised our road map for day one should have been to reach stumps around 250/2. Willis does play to the camera a lot but I feel he was right there.
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Pretty clear that we're at least 100/150 runs short here
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250/2 might have been ambitious ! I'd have settled for 250/4
England under Bayliss are keen to play aggressively , which is fine - most of the time. But sometimes it is more sensible to establish a bit of a platform before trying to force the issue. They scored quite briskly in the first Test and may have felt they could do so again ; but I think this pitch , while "good" for batting , is one where the better tactic is to wait and punish the bad balls...
But here is a lucky break ! Great outfield catch by Woakes from a loose ball and loose shot...Pujara gone.
England under Bayliss are keen to play aggressively , which is fine - most of the time. But sometimes it is more sensible to establish a bit of a platform before trying to force the issue. They scored quite briskly in the first Test and may have felt they could do so again ; but I think this pitch , while "good" for batting , is one where the better tactic is to wait and punish the bad balls...
But here is a lucky break ! Great outfield catch by Woakes from a loose ball and loose shot...Pujara gone.
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What a great catch
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One of the great merits of the wrist spinner : they can get wickets with absolute rubbish
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alfie wrote:One of the great merits of the wrist spinner : they can get wickets with absolute rubbish
He's bowled some genuine beauties this series that have gone unrewarded....yet that gets a wicket!
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And with his 15 wicket of the series, Rashid passes Warne's best ever haul in a series in India
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Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:alfie wrote:One of the great merits of the wrist spinner : they can get wickets with absolute rubbish
He's bowled some genuine beauties this series that have gone unrewarded....yet that gets a wicket!
It is the nature of the beast ...
Now that he has the break - albeit by sheer luck - Rashid has a chance to put some pressure on . Pleased to see the Woakes from the other end ...with the two right handers in I'd rather have pace at one end and keep the off spinners away from the game for à while
Lbw now ! Rahane reviews but surely this is stone dead ? Out !
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And so Rashid has changed the situation quite quickly...as I said earlier - one brings two.
Hoping it will bring more ...the debutant at the crease...
Hoping it will bring more ...the debutant at the crease...
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The drift on that googly should only be shown past watershed....my word #xratedRashid
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well Rahane has not helped his cause when all players are fit....and India under pressure....Nair on debut.....pitch not bad but match situation quite tight...
off the mark with a good boundary
off the mark with a good boundary
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poor nair.....game on...we are up and against it.
15 minutes after tea has turned the game
15 minutes after tea has turned the game
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CaledonianCraig wrote:They then need to put in a great effort with the ball and look to grab a couple of wickets and have India 50 for 2 at lunch. By tea have India toiling at around 150 for 5 and by close of play reduce the hosts to around 225 for 8.
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From nowhere England are suddenly up following my roadmap with three quick wickets after tea. India 156 for 5.
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Blimey ! Who needs the gloves ? Joss Buttler with a super run out...and suddenly the pressure is back on the home team !
Kohli really is the big wicket now - as he probably always was. But how England are going to shift him I'm not sure...
Kohli really is the big wicket now - as he probably always was. But how England are going to shift him I'm not sure...
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Must have a third man for Ashwin...
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With the three quick wickets since tea , England must know one more will give them the whip hand .
Sure there are still players who can handle a bat to come : but these two are the real danger men. Next hour might almost decide this Test Match.
Sure there are still players who can handle a bat to come : but these two are the real danger men. Next hour might almost decide this Test Match.
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Stokes strikes to dismiss Kohli. I think he enjoyed that one. India 204 for 6 and this test is falling back into the melting pot.
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so Kohli goes....now the objective shifts to Not conceding a lead
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Ashwin and Kohli restoring order after that four overs of mayhem...
Yet another fifty for Kohli
Runs flowing a bit too quickly for England's liking. Might be time for a bit of Moeen just for a change ?
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...and now Stokes has grabbed the big wicket. Game on !
Yet another fifty for Kohli
Runs flowing a bit too quickly for England's liking. Might be time for a bit of Moeen just for a change ?
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...and now Stokes has grabbed the big wicket. Game on !
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Moeen has been economical so far - from limited overs. England need him to stay so now...only twelve overs to a new ball.
Jadeja can bat. What they (England ) don't need is for these two to rattle up a quick forty. If they can restrict the batsmen , chances are wickets are going to fall.
That projected Indian lead of 100 or so seems a long way off at the moment...
I know it is slower than some ; but this Test Match is actually quite fascinating . And hard to pick who is on top at the moment.
Jadeja can bat. What they (England ) don't need is for these two to rattle up a quick forty. If they can restrict the batsmen , chances are wickets are going to fall.
That projected Indian lead of 100 or so seems a long way off at the moment...
I know it is slower than some ; but this Test Match is actually quite fascinating . And hard to pick who is on top at the moment.
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alfie wrote:Moeen has been economical so far - from limited overs. England need him to stay so now...only twelve overs to a new ball.
Jadeja can bat. What they (England ) don't need is for these two to rattle up a quick forty. If they can restrict the batsmen , chances are wickets are going to fall.
That projected Indian lead of 100 or so seems a long way off at the moment...
I know it is slower than some ; but this Test Match is actually quite fascinating . And hard to pick who is on top at the moment.
Agreed.
One thing is for sure, England can't afford India a lead of 50+. Any lead for India actually will be like gold dust but considering how grave things looked an hour or so ago they'd take that scenario.
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Ashwin is doing a great job for India here . Not only staying in , but being busy ...they need to keep the runs coming ; and he seems to be able to keep the score ticking over without taking any big risks .
39 from 52 balls is very good in the context of this match.
39 from 52 balls is very good in the context of this match.
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alfie wrote:Ashwin is doing a great job for India here . Not only staying in , but being busy ...they need to keep the runs coming ; and he seems to be able to keep the score ticking over without taking any big risks .
39 from 52 balls is very good in the context of this match.
The sign of a batsman in the groove and in form.
England need another wicket or two today just to tighten the screw.
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Well pass me a slice of humble pie!
This didn't go according to script. Well done England for not letting India get off to a flyer.
Would be ideal if they can nip Ashwin out before stumps (the last real danger man). If he digs in I'd settle for seeing Jadeja back in the dressing room.
If India are 250-60 for 7 at close of play, that sets England up to blast through the tail tomorrow and get batting again quite early.
This didn't go according to script. Well done England for not letting India get off to a flyer.
Would be ideal if they can nip Ashwin out before stumps (the last real danger man). If he digs in I'd settle for seeing Jadeja back in the dressing room.
If India are 250-60 for 7 at close of play, that sets England up to blast through the tail tomorrow and get batting again quite early.
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Watching these two batting , apparently quite comfortably , one wonders how 16 wickets have fallen for 511 on this pitch.
Really no demons. But somehow , no one has yet really managed to dominate with the bat.
Really no demons. But somehow , no one has yet really managed to dominate with the bat.
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Hmm...and in the space of 10 overs or so, Ashwin and Jadeja have swung the pendulum back in India's favour again. Neither showing the slightest sign of getting out and the new ball is just allowing them to score even faster.
England haemorrhaging boundaries and suddenly an India lead of 100 doesn't look so improbable.
England haemorrhaging boundaries and suddenly an India lead of 100 doesn't look so improbable.
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India climbing back into the drving seat thanks to Ashwin and Jadeja. At close of play India are 271 for 6 trailing by just 12 runs.
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Where does that mixed day leave things?
Well on day three England's plan will be to use the relatively new ball to great effect in the morning and bowl India out for no more than 325 with India leading by around 40 runs. Anything better than that they will take as a bonus. In the afternoon they will hope to bat with more common sense than first time around and reach tea no worse than 100 for 2. They would then want to build on that and close no worse than 220 for 4. A lead of 175+ going into the fourth day.
India's roadmap will be far different. They'd hope to bat through the morning session with Ashwin and Jadeja continuing to build a partnership and Indian first innings lead. Lunch to be taken with India around 350 for 8 and them getting to 400 or thereabouts before being bowled out midway through the day. They will look for quick inroads and have England teetering around 50 for 2 at tea (still trailing by 70+ runs). By close they'd want England reduced to around 140 for 6 with scores almost at parity and England batting with their tale.
Well on day three England's plan will be to use the relatively new ball to great effect in the morning and bowl India out for no more than 325 with India leading by around 40 runs. Anything better than that they will take as a bonus. In the afternoon they will hope to bat with more common sense than first time around and reach tea no worse than 100 for 2. They would then want to build on that and close no worse than 220 for 4. A lead of 175+ going into the fourth day.
India's roadmap will be far different. They'd hope to bat through the morning session with Ashwin and Jadeja continuing to build a partnership and Indian first innings lead. Lunch to be taken with India around 350 for 8 and them getting to 400 or thereabouts before being bowled out midway through the day. They will look for quick inroads and have England teetering around 50 for 2 at tea (still trailing by 70+ runs). By close they'd want England reduced to around 140 for 6 with scores almost at parity and England batting with their tale.
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--The game balanced on a knife edge...after a beautiful day of test match cricket....that ebbed and flowed all the way.
These English are very hard to break.....don't give in unlike the touring Aussies, Kiwis or Saffies....tough , fighting and coming back at you all the time...and have kept themselves hanging in the series still.
Much as I wanted India did not break the English resistance..that they would have had they been only 4 down with this score.
--Ind as I thought earlier will have to scrape , sum of parts efforts.....and so the WK and two bolwing allrounders have chipped in usefully in adtion to the 2 regular batsman..
The 2 not out allrounders and one to follow have to take India about 50 runs ahead....and then whatever tha last two bolwers can add would be a bonus...
and the likes of Vijay, Rahane and Nair have to stand up in the second inning....we will have to chase somehting...that could be anything beetween 120 to 220
--Much as Eng play intelligent and intense cricket...they got a few things not right....
1) they donpt need 6 bowlers....another batter would have been handy or of at all anything a 4th seamer would have been handy.
2) they should not have and should not going forward bowl 2 spinners in tandem......a spinners and a seamer most times.....and 2 seamers sometimes
3) This is not a pitch the ball up wicket for the seamers....it does not swing and is put away for easy runs as Aswin all throughout and Jadeja was able to do at the end.
good Length....or just back of it is the length to ball on this pitch, nippers and cutters from that length are likely to get the wickets.....shami and Stokes were the two seamers on the money most of the times.
I hope India can bat one full session tomm and Eng would hope they can polish off the last 4 in no more than hour.
an hour is all that stands between one or the other gaining ascendancy tomm
These English are very hard to break.....don't give in unlike the touring Aussies, Kiwis or Saffies....tough , fighting and coming back at you all the time...and have kept themselves hanging in the series still.
Much as I wanted India did not break the English resistance..that they would have had they been only 4 down with this score.
--Ind as I thought earlier will have to scrape , sum of parts efforts.....and so the WK and two bolwing allrounders have chipped in usefully in adtion to the 2 regular batsman..
The 2 not out allrounders and one to follow have to take India about 50 runs ahead....and then whatever tha last two bolwers can add would be a bonus...
and the likes of Vijay, Rahane and Nair have to stand up in the second inning....we will have to chase somehting...that could be anything beetween 120 to 220
--Much as Eng play intelligent and intense cricket...they got a few things not right....
1) they donpt need 6 bowlers....another batter would have been handy or of at all anything a 4th seamer would have been handy.
2) they should not have and should not going forward bowl 2 spinners in tandem......a spinners and a seamer most times.....and 2 seamers sometimes
3) This is not a pitch the ball up wicket for the seamers....it does not swing and is put away for easy runs as Aswin all throughout and Jadeja was able to do at the end.
good Length....or just back of it is the length to ball on this pitch, nippers and cutters from that length are likely to get the wickets.....shami and Stokes were the two seamers on the money most of the times.
I hope India can bat one full session tomm and Eng would hope they can polish off the last 4 in no more than hour.
an hour is all that stands between one or the other gaining ascendancy tomm
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So India's spin twins, who both haven't had their usual level of impact with the ball so far in the series have saved the side from a real pit through some determined and busy batting. At 208-6, India were in serious danger of giving away a considerable lead to England, but by stumps Ashwin and Jadeja have pulled them back to parity. India only 12 away from the England score at stumps. With Jayant Yadav yet to come, they would hope to get at least a 30 40 lead. If Ashwin and Jadeja can continue the good work for some more time in the morning session and if the side manage to bat for most of the first session tomorrow, they should have a lead of 50-60.
It will be difficult in the morning though, and England would fancy their chances with the new ball in early morning conditions. With the winter around, there should be a little bit of movement available for some time. Shami managed to take full advantage of the same today when he made short work of Rashid and Batty.
It will be difficult in the morning though, and England would fancy their chances with the new ball in early morning conditions. With the winter around, there should be a little bit of movement available for some time. Shami managed to take full advantage of the same today when he made short work of Rashid and Batty.
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Perhaps if given the chance now (in hindsight) they would have swapped Batty for another seamer such as Jake Ball or Finn. Such is the form (or lack of) of the batting options (Duckett and Ballance) it is unlikely they'd have opted for another batsman.
CaledonianCraig- Posts : 20601
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CaledonianCraig wrote:
Where does that mixed day leave things?
Well on day three England's plan will be to use the relatively new ball to great effect in the morning and bowl India out for no more than 325 with India leading by around 40 runs. Anything better than that they will take as a bonus. In the afternoon they will hope to bat with more common sense than first time around and reach tea no worse than 100 for 2. They would then want to build on that and close no worse than 220 for 4. A lead of 175+ going into the fourth day.
India's roadmap will be far different. They'd hope to bat through the morning session with Ashwin and Jadeja continuing to build a partnership and Indian first innings lead. Lunch to be taken with India around 350 for 8 and them getting to 400 or thereabouts before being bowled out midway through the day. They will look for quick inroads and have England teetering around 50 for 2 at tea (still trailing by 70+ runs). By close they'd want England reduced to around 140 for 6 with scores almost at parity and England batting with their tale.
Well, if England bowl like they did towards the end of that session, I'd say the latter is more likely.
A real shame they let India off the leash like that, after stifling their scoring so well.
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Parthiv Patel batted pretty well up the order before his rather freakish dismissal. Note I am not complaining about the decision, I like the fact that batsman are not just able to pad up just because they are down the wicket....... It takes a brave umpire to give it, and a brave bowler and captain to review the same. Vijay has now started the trend of starting a series pretty well and then tapering off later on and he's continuing in the same way in this series. He scored a ton in the first test and had a couple of very important 50s against New Zealand. But he hasn't looked the player of last season yet. There is some issue with him, perhaps an issue of focus, perhaps something else that is affecting his confidence.
Pujara played very well before he got out, and when he and Kohli were in, England were looking down the barrel. Even the shot he played was pretty much on, was really a terrible delivery from Rashid that needed to be put away, and even the shot in the air was on, but Pujara just didn't hit well enough and didn't place it well enough. Kohli too was majestic during his stay, he's adding more patience to his game, is willing to weather the strom during good spells and is willing to wait for the bad ball when the bowlers try restricting him bowling wide outside offstump. And when the bad ball comes along, he makes sure he doesn't miss out. Despite the unfinished job today, that is a very heartening aspect of Kohli's batting that is visibly evolving through the course of this series.
What is happening to Ajinkya Rahane? This has now become a truly dreadful series for him. Terrible shot selection for the first 2 tests, and then he failed to pick Rashid's variation today. Rahane has so much credit left in the bank and his position is under no question. But he needs to put in some serious work on his spin playing abilities. Among India's top batsmen Kohli, Pujara and Rahane, Ajinkya is the best player of seam and swing, but he's the worst among the 3 when it comes to spin. But up to this series, he found ways to score runs against spin even when he started a series badly, he would produce the goods by the 2nd test somehow. It is going from bad to worse as of now. Hope he comes back to his best soon.
A brilliant bit of fielding from Buttler denied a good solid look at young Karun Nair........
Pujara played very well before he got out, and when he and Kohli were in, England were looking down the barrel. Even the shot he played was pretty much on, was really a terrible delivery from Rashid that needed to be put away, and even the shot in the air was on, but Pujara just didn't hit well enough and didn't place it well enough. Kohli too was majestic during his stay, he's adding more patience to his game, is willing to weather the strom during good spells and is willing to wait for the bad ball when the bowlers try restricting him bowling wide outside offstump. And when the bad ball comes along, he makes sure he doesn't miss out. Despite the unfinished job today, that is a very heartening aspect of Kohli's batting that is visibly evolving through the course of this series.
What is happening to Ajinkya Rahane? This has now become a truly dreadful series for him. Terrible shot selection for the first 2 tests, and then he failed to pick Rashid's variation today. Rahane has so much credit left in the bank and his position is under no question. But he needs to put in some serious work on his spin playing abilities. Among India's top batsmen Kohli, Pujara and Rahane, Ajinkya is the best player of seam and swing, but he's the worst among the 3 when it comes to spin. But up to this series, he found ways to score runs against spin even when he started a series badly, he would produce the goods by the 2nd test somehow. It is going from bad to worse as of now. Hope he comes back to his best soon.
A brilliant bit of fielding from Buttler denied a good solid look at young Karun Nair........
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alfie wrote:250/2 might have been ambitious ! I'd have settled for 250/4
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But here is a lucky break ! Great outfield catch by Woakes from a loose ball and loose shot...Pujara gone.
Alfie - yes, to end day one only 2 down was an ambitious aim / wishful hope from Willis. However, I feel he was right to emphasise that the concentration should have been as much on conserving wickets as scoring runs. If that had been accomplished, we would have had the opportunity to really go on today. Having lost the toss, India must have been made up last night that we were 8 down.
Cracker from Woakes! I've always had a high regard for his fielding since I saw him take three good to very good boundary catches in a one dayer for Warks at Guildford about four years ago. Glad it's not just against Surrey that he produces his best!
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Certainly that partnership between Ashwin and Jadeja has swung the game back in India's favour : they were in real danger of conceding a thirty or so run deficit ; and now look likely to lead by at least a similar amount - probably a bit more.
Has been a really hard fought day of old fashioned Test Match cricket...advantage moving back and forth. Ultimately this match probably depends mainly on how England bat in their second innings : assuming the Indian lead doesn't get too large (though I'm assuming nothing !) a solid effort second time around , on a pitch which will probably still be quite good for batting , would set India a challenging last innings target - especially considering at least two of their top six are struggling for runs at present.
Honestly wouldn't like to predict how this will go ; just hope it remains as interesting a battle over the next couple of days.
Has been a really hard fought day of old fashioned Test Match cricket...advantage moving back and forth. Ultimately this match probably depends mainly on how England bat in their second innings : assuming the Indian lead doesn't get too large (though I'm assuming nothing !) a solid effort second time around , on a pitch which will probably still be quite good for batting , would set India a challenging last innings target - especially considering at least two of their top six are struggling for runs at present.
Honestly wouldn't like to predict how this will go ; just hope it remains as interesting a battle over the next couple of days.
alfie- Posts : 20896
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Tend to agree with KPf (!!!) that England might have done better not to pick three spinners. Finn might have been more use than Batty in this match...suspect they are being influenced by the prematch propaganda that has each of these pitches due to "spin madly from day three/two/one" . Yeah they spin - as do all Asian pitches. But , so far , nothing outrageous . (day five you always expect something)
Something to be said for playing to your strengths...
Hopefully that will ensure six wickets for Batty on day five
Something to be said for playing to your strengths...
Hopefully that will ensure six wickets for Batty on day five
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For England, Stokes yet again showed his magic touch. He got Vijay just when the openers were looking pretty much in control, he got Kohli when he was looking immovable and determined. James Anderson bowled alright but didn't look that threatening. Chris Woakes wasn't at his sharpest and gave away crucial runs with the 2nd new ball at the end of the day. Moeen Ali was economical without looking like getting a wicket.
Adil Rashid yet again emerged as the pick of their bowlers. He got Pujara with a filthy delivery, but as alfie said, it is the nature of the beast really, the legspinner can do that....... He got Rahane with a pretty good one that the batsman just didn' pick. He did keep the runs down when Kohli and Pujara were building that partnership.
Rashid is much maligned over here and elsewhere regarding his control and Gareth Batty was much hyped up for his control. Batty never looked like taking a wicket today, and bowled some absolute rubbish and was a release option as far as the Indian batsmen were concerned. England supporters still might not give Rashid the credit he richly deserves, but they would stay off his head for the next test at least?
Adil Rashid yet again emerged as the pick of their bowlers. He got Pujara with a filthy delivery, but as alfie said, it is the nature of the beast really, the legspinner can do that....... He got Rahane with a pretty good one that the batsman just didn' pick. He did keep the runs down when Kohli and Pujara were building that partnership.
Rashid is much maligned over here and elsewhere regarding his control and Gareth Batty was much hyped up for his control. Batty never looked like taking a wicket today, and bowled some absolute rubbish and was a release option as far as the Indian batsmen were concerned. England supporters still might not give Rashid the credit he richly deserves, but they would stay off his head for the next test at least?
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True.....Rahane is one of the few Indian batsmen who would prefer to play pace and seam up-frontmsp83 wrote:
What is happening to Ajinkya Rahane? This has now become a truly dreadful series for him. Terrible shot selection for the first 2 tests, and then he failed to pick Rashid's variation today. Rahane has so much credit left in the bank and his position is under no question. But he needs to put in some serious work on his spin playing abilities. Among India's top batsmen Kohli, Pujara and Rahane, Ajinkya is the best player of seam and swing, but he's the worst among the 3 when it comes to spin.
he has second inning and 2 more tests to deliver....
he will be under pressure if Parthiv delivers with the bat in the 2nd inning also( like a 50) and comes into contention like a pure batsman.....and / or Nair delivers...and / or Rahul fot again cracks a good score or two and Rohit recovers....
having more options is good for India.....and Rahane under pressure isi also good for India...I hope he comes out good and delivers....in the second inning....although I would much prefer he does not have to bat in the second inning
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Lets hope Rahane's next opportunity would only come in the next test! Have a feeling though that he would have his chance to redeem himself in the 2nd innings itself.
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