Scotland V England - The Calcutta Cup

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Past results

2010	13 March	England	15–15	Murrayfield	Edinburgh	63	39	15
2011	13 March	England	22–17	Twickenham	London	64	39	15
2012	4 February	England	6–13	Murrayfield	Edinburgh	65	39	15
2013	2 February	England	38–18	Twickenham	London	66	39	15
2014	8 February	England	0–20	Murrayfield	Edinburgh	67	39	15
2015	14 March	England	25–13	Twickenham	London	68	39	15
2016	6 February	England	9–15[2]	Murrayfield	Edinburgh	69	39	15
2017	11 March	England	61–21[3]	Twickenham	London	70	39	15
2018	24 February	Scotland	25–13[4]	Murrayfield	Edinburgh	70	40	15
2019	16 March	Scotland	38–38	Twickenham	London	70	40	16

Teams


TBC





Furbank; May, Joseph, Farrell, Daly; Ford, Heinz; M Vunipola, George, Sinckler, Kruis, Itoje, Ludlam, Underhill, Curry

Replacements: Dunn, Genge, Stuart, Launchbury, Lawes, Earl, Youngs, Devoto

Try.

Another Hogg Howler

Well. Hogg does it again.

He’s simply not got a mature enough head on him

Well. Hogg does it again.

He’s simply not got a mature enough head on him

Fair, looks like Hogg grounded it on/over the line first, I didn’t see that angle until the replay.

Correct call

Carried over by Hogg. Restart scrum 5.

England need the decisive score here.

Well that’s the game

Terrible conditions but England played the smarter basic game

It took some time but a TRY is scored.

About time

Yes Genge. I was delighted when Genge kept his place in the 23 and even happier now.

Still time for England to mess it up ...

England back three are missing Watson and Nowell a lot.

In wind like that. Do not kick it high.

It’s just basic basic rugby. Absolutely terrible decision making on show today

It's catching

Ben Earl looks at home here. Every bit the international player.

Take the ugly win and move on.

Why take the kick now???

Any win will do ...

Ugly is not the word, more like Medusa

tigertattie wrote:Why take the kick now???

Bonus point

Ironic that the ref finally gives a pen for sealing off when it's been happening all game ...

king_carlos wrote:Yes Genge. I was delighted when Genge kept his place in the 23 and even happier now.

No brainer. He was excellent off the bench last weekend and after destroying Sinckler at club level he's done enough to prove his scrummaging is up to par. You want a big carrier on the bench for impact and he definitely offers that.

Game that doesn't tell you anything. Except for one thing

When it mattered the England forwards overwhelmed the Scots.

What have we learnt today......................... not a lot

Well played England. no bonus point but a win is a win. conditions terrible but that is rugby for you.

Oh and weather like this makes bonus points a lottery

A very difficult time for Furbank, away to France and then this weather, but \i have to say he has not impressed. He has not been given a chance ball in hand, but he looks like a rabbit in headlights.

Well considering at one point we had 67% possession and a large portion of that in the England 22 its an absolute travesty we didnt score anything, regardless of the conditions. Toonie has to step back from attack coach and we couldnt have a new forwards coach sooner. At the moment its fifty phases of Robinson. God I miss VC!

Decent win in awful conditions. England much the better side but conditions made it difficult.

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:What have we learnt today......................... not a lot

Tompkins isn't that much of a loss?

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:A very difficult time for Furbank, away to France and then this weather, but \i have to say he has not impressed. He has not been given a chance ball in hand, but he looks like a rabbit in headlights.

Seemed like May was covering most of the long kicks

Jeez that was an awful game but Scotland once again not taking chances. Toonies days are numbered.

Congrats England though very good composure to see that win out despite plenty of mistakes themselves.

Was Furbank even on the pitch?
Decent performance, Curry looked much better despite being tossed out of the defensive line by youngs

That's 2 from 2 for Townsend. 2 more and hes got to go.

Absolutely bsando. They should be. The way we're failing in attack I wouldnt be surprised if we got the spoon this year.

Toonie will be gone by summer with any luck.

Hogg is a terrible captain. Do Scotland not have anyone better?

These conditions were ripe for a Scottish upset, but he went from screaming at the ref to completely passive and then back again.

Townsend must go (and Hogg as captain).

There is no way in the world NZ would have kicked like that. Ball in hand

Ritchie is probably the only other viable option for lack of others. I also thought bradbury had a dire game. Should have been haining. He'd earnt his start, another poor Toonie decision.

This was a game for the fat lads.

Genge's post match interview is fantastic. That's a man being dragged into 'media relations' training on Monday morning. He's a fantastic personality.

Ellis Genge's interview was hilarious!

He's done it in a few interviews talking very candidly about the media loving to hype teams and individuals up just to tear them down. Also talking about 'loyalty' in club rugby and the abuse individuals can get both in person in and on social media.

TightHEAD wrote:This was a game for the fat lads.

Yet still people went into meltdown about Englands bench.

Genge is my new favourite guy

Well the weather was probably the winner of that match, followed closely by England with Scotland a poorish third.

Unfortunately the days of us thriving in those sorts of conditions are long gone.

One try was always going to win it and unfortunately England scored it!

Cyril wrote:Hogg is a terrible captain. Do Scotland not have anyone better?

These conditions were ripe for a Scottish upset, but he went from screaming at the ref to completely passive and then back again.

Townsend must go (and Hogg as captain).

You still think England are going to cruise to 6N victory? Hasnt been plain sailing so far.

Seems likely given 2 home games and italy away. The weather has curtailed a chance for a bonus point tho.

On the way back from murrayfield, I cannot overemphasise how horrific those conditions were. Just putrid.

Well done to England. 6-2 bench split paid off and overall you just deserved it.

I can't really take anything from that game from a Scotland point of view. Weather so awful that I don't think it's particularly fair to criticise the attack. Neither team passed out beyond 12 and just kicked the crap out of the ball! The Scottish lineout though...

Idiot wrote: ti hought the way we played in the second half was excellent, given the conditions. To show what we did for the first 15 minutes to force errors and penalties was good. It was just that five minute period that England got into our 22 that we have to remedy

Wtf is Townsend on?