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Post by maestegmafia on Mon 10 Feb 2020, 10:13 am

First topic message reminder :

Getting your backside kicked and realising your faults can make you a far better and stronger team. Should you go on for a lengthy period without teams finding the flaws in your game you are likely to get a big surprise one day when said period ends..!

Ireland played really well last Saturday, they found flaws in wales defence and attack. I think we all knew our set piece hasn’t been world class but that has been the case for a long time.

Next we face the French, now one of only two teams who can claim a grandslam should their winning run continue and they look pretty handy. They neither look like the french teams of old, Sella, Penaud, Blanco and St Andre nor do they look like the recent sides of Vahmina, Basteraud and an endless stream of different flyhalfs.

Both teams are new to their coaches, both teams are looking to push on from their past and polish their game. France look better than this time last year, Wales maybe not so much...!

Sure going to be a great game.

Wales:

15. Leigh Halfpenny (87 Caps)
14. George North (93 Caps)
13. Nick Tompkins (2 Caps)
12. Hadleigh Parkes (27 Caps)
11. Josh Adams (23 Caps)
10. Dan Biggar (81 Caps)
9. Gareth Davies (52 Caps)

1. Wyn Jones (24 Caps)
2. Ken Owens (75 Caps)
3. Dillon Lewis (24 Caps)
4. Jake Ball (44 Caps)
5. Alun Wyn Jones (C) (136 Caps)
6. Ross Moriarty (43 Caps)
7. Justin Tipuric (74 Caps)
8. Taulupe Faletau (74 Caps)

Replacements:
16. Ryan Elias (11 Caps)
17. Rob Evans (37 Caps)
18. Leon Brown (8 Caps)
19. Will Rowlands (Uncapped)
20. Aaron Wainwright (20 Caps)
21. Tomos Williams (18 Caps)
22. Jarrod Evans (5 Caps)
23. Johnny McNicholl (2 Caps)


France

15. Anthony Bouthier (Montpellier)
14. Teddy Thomas (Racing 92)
13. Virimi Vakatawa (Racing 92)
12. Arthur Vincent (Montpellier)
11. Gaël Fickou (Stade Français)
10. Romain Ntamack (Toulouse)
9. Antoine Dupont (Toulouse)

1. Cyril Baille (Toulouse)
2. Julien Marchand (Toulouse)
3. Mohamed Haouas (Montpellier)
4. Bernard Le Roux (Racing 92)
5. Paul Willemse (Montpellier)
6. François Cros (Toulouse)
7. Charles Ollivon (Toulon) (c)
8. Grégory Alldritt (La Rochelle)

Replacements:
16. Camille Chat (Racing 92)
17. Jean-Baptiste Gros (Toulon)
18. Demba Bamba (Lyon)
19. Romain Taofifenua (Toulon)
20. Dylan Cretin (Lyon)
21. Baptiste Serin (Toulon)
22. Matthieu Jalibert (Bordeaux-Bègles)
23. Thomas Ramos (Toulouse)

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 5:30 pm

guestalt_physicality wrote:"To explain myself again, I'm saying that if he gets a 50/50 call, I think it may indeed cross his mind that one side has accused the other of cheating, and that the other hasn't felt the need to do so. "

I cannot see the misrepresentation myself.

Happy to leave it as it didn't even need to be started.
That's clearly not the same as 'I will now punish Wales in any 50:50 scrums'. Come on!  Laugh

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 6:00 pm

This could be a cracker of a match. I'd love to see France really turn up in Cardiff for once. It's been a while!

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 6:04 pm

Just cant see it. France took advantage of an undercooked england and still could have easily drawn the match. Cant see beyond a very comfortable no scares wales win.

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Post by SecretFly on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 9:47 pm

France will have two purple patches. Wales should be ready to marmalise them during their three of four lethargic periods. It's simples........ Wink

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Post by whocares on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 10:35 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:This could be a cracker of a match. I'd love to see France really turn up in Cardiff for once. It's been a while!

Yep 10 years

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Post by maestegmafia on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 11:06 pm

Great to see the under 20s get a win today over their world champion french counterparts.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 7:18 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:This could be a cracker of a match. I'd love to see France really turn up in Cardiff for once. It's been a while!

Both teams ‘failed to turn up’ at their last meeting in Cardiff 2018. France were edged out by one point in a very forgettable match.
Today’s encounter has got to be better fare surely?

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Post by maestegmafia on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 8:26 am

Roof closed or open?

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 9:45 am

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:This could be a cracker of a match. I'd love to see France really turn up in Cardiff for once. It's been a while!

Both teams ‘failed to turn up’ at their last meeting in Cardiff 2018. France were edged out by one point in a very forgettable match.
Today’s encounter has got to be better fare surely?

It should fare a lot better than the recent Scotland v England encounter.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 10:20 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:This could be a cracker of a match. I'd love to see France really turn up in Cardiff for once. It's been a while!

Both teams ‘failed to turn up’ at their last meeting in Cardiff 2018. France were edged out by one point in a very forgettable match.
Today’s encounter has got to be better fare surely?

It should fare a lot better than the recent Scotland v England encounter.

Yes the weather was the excuse last fortnight.No excuses 2 years ago.....
Or was there an English ref?

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 11:11 am

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:This could be a cracker of a match. I'd love to see France really turn up in Cardiff for once. It's been a while!

Both teams ‘failed to turn up’ at their last meeting in Cardiff 2018. France were edged out by one point in a very forgettable match.
Today’s encounter has got to be better fare surely?

It should fare a lot better than the recent Scotland v England encounter.

Yes the weather was the excuse last fortnight.No excuses 2 years ago.....
Or was there an English ref?

I don't really remember the game from 2 years ago, but a slug-fest is usually the best way to beat teams that are big up front like France and SA. The recent Scotland vs England game was far worse in my opinion.

I don't recall who the ref was either. I only take issue with French ref's who either don't know the laws, and seemingly like to pick their own winner some time into the first half. When it comes to ref-blaming we usually see a lot of it from certain English posters when Wales are playing. We don't even have to playing against England either. I remember this thread where Trev and co were quite embarrassing laughing

https://www.606v2.com/t68985p100-wales-vs-england-match-thread-friendly?highlight=wales+vs+england

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 11:21 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:This could be a cracker of a match. I'd love to see France really turn up in Cardiff for once. It's been a while!

Both teams ‘failed to turn up’ at their last meeting in Cardiff 2018. France were edged out by one point in a very forgettable match.
Today’s encounter has got to be better fare surely?

It should fare a lot better than the recent Scotland v England encounter.

Yes the weather was the excuse last fortnight.No excuses 2 years ago.....
Or was there an English ref?

I don't really remember the game from 2 years ago, but a slug-fest is usually the best way to beat teams that are big up front like France and SA. The recent Scotland vs England game was far worse in my opinion.

I don't recall who the ref was either. I only take issue with French ref's who either don't know the laws, and seemingly like to pick their own winner some time into the first half. When it comes to ref-blaming we usually see a lot of it from certain English posters when Wales are playing. We don't even have to playing against England either. I remember this thread where Trev and co were quite embarrassing laughing

https://www.606v2.com/t68985p100-wales-vs-england-match-thread-friendly?highlight=wales+vs+england

Blimey you clearly have more time on your hands than me. Well researched.

I’m glad you never embarrass your fellow countrymen Rolling Eyes

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 11:25 am

Lol, literally had to just type in Wales vs England and scroll down. Took 90 seconds at the most. It's amazing what people who are superior to you in looks and reasoning can do eh thumbsup

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 11:51 am

mikey_dragon wrote:Lol, literally had to just type in Wales vs England and scroll down. Took 90 seconds at the most. It's amazing what people who are superior to you in looks and reasoning can do eh thumbsup

Thanks proved my point in the next post Very Happy

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 12:00 pm

I don’t really have time to converse with inferior people, but if this is another Wales thread that you have to denigrate in order to save your fragile ego, then I suggest you move on. Otherwise it’s another holiday Smile.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 2:45 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:I don’t really have time to converse with inferior people, but if this is another Wales thread that you have to denigrate in order to save your fragile ego, then I suggest you move on. Otherwise it’s another holiday Smile.

I’ve already told you you have proved my point. No need to reinforce it.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 2:49 pm

Good one Trev, you’re getting the last word in again thumbsup

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 3:05 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Good one Trev, you’re getting the last word in again thumbsup
No time for useless keyboard warriors like yourself. I’m off to watch rugby & talk to proper people 🍻

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:06 pm

Nice, have a few beers and drive home  Hug

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Post by Dirtydave on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:14 pm

In case anyone's interested...

Cardiff is busy, but subdued. It's not excited, it's nervous! I've been here for a huge amount of important games, and this might be the worst atmosphere I've been involved with.

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Post by Heaf on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:17 pm

I think Wales will do the business today ...

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:19 pm

Right you lot. Please give us a game of rugby to watch

Scotland and Italy served up a cup of cold sick so you need to do the business
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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:30 pm

tigertattie wrote:Right you lot. Please give us a game of rugby to watch

Scotland and Italy served up a cup of cold sick so you need to do the business

Even if they do you’ll just start crying “the Welsh are offside”.

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:48 pm

Nice clean scrum.
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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:50 pm

Wales are masters at pinning players at the ruck and milking not rolling away pens.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:52 pm

Nice try, France are dangerous this year.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:54 pm

Nothing will stop the French Grand Slam if they can win this one.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:55 pm

Early days but French Defence might have us sussed out.

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:55 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Right you lot. Please give us a game of rugby to watch

Scotland and Italy served up a cup of cold sick so you need to do the business

Even if they do you’ll just start crying “the Welsh are offside”.

Still running with that one?
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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:56 pm

Don’t tell me North has another concussion....

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:57 pm

Ouch that looked sore.

Poor north doesn’t get the luck with the ko’s
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Post by lostinwales on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:57 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Don’t tell me North has another concussion....

Doesnt look good

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:58 pm

That's really bad for north.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:01 pm

Still defending too narrow.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:03 pm

Savage match

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:07 pm

Shame about George North. How many head injury's has he had?

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Post by carpet baboon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:09 pm

majesticimperialman wrote:Shame about George North. How many head injury's has he had?

Too many

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:12 pm

North isn’t coming back on. It’s a real shame for him, I just hope it isn’t too serious.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:13 pm

Double infringement = double penalty, just for the ref.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:15 pm

Where’s the forward pass guy? I think it just seem one and he isn’t crying over it.

Wtf is with this defensive structure though.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:17 pm

Was no more forward than Wales' first try v Ireland. Let off for Wales.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:18 pm

Wtf is this....

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Post by carpet baboon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:19 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Wtf is this....

Must be the ref????

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:20 pm

Pathetic unchecked Irish taking over this thread I see. Trev went to the pub and you seen an opening I guess.

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:20 pm

Great try by France....Wales looking a bit shell shocked at the minute.

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Post by whocares on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:21 pm

What a difference on the set piece between this game and the last one for France

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:21 pm

French intensity too great for Wales to handle.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:24 pm

France have their attacking flair back, and their defence is now good, we’re struggling with that. Their big guys keep flopping over the breakdown and disorganising us, do it if you keep getting away with it I guess.

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Post by The Oracle on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:26 pm

Les d*cking!
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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 22 Feb 2020, 5:28 pm

Has to be a yellow. Weren’t 10 either.

Come on lads where’s the commentary? I’m a bit biased.

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