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Post by bsando Mon 08 Feb 2021, 19:47

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Scotland vs Wales

Referee: Matthew Carley (England)
Assistant Referee 1: Pascal Gauzere (France)
Assistant Referee 2: Andrea Piardi (Italy)
TMO: Karl Dickson (England)

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1 Rory Sutherland
2 George Turner
3 Zander Fagerson
4 Scott Cummings
5 Jonny Gray (Vice Captain)
6 Blade Thomson
7 Hamish Watson
8 Matt Fagerson
9 Ali Price
10 Finn Russell (Vice Captain)
11 Duhan van der Merwe
12 James Lang
13 Chris Harris
14 Darcy Graham
15 Stuart Hogg (Captain)

16 David Cherry
17 Oli Kebble
18 WP Nel
19 Richie Gray
20 Gary Graham
21 Scott Steele
22 Jaco van der Walt
23 Huw Jones

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1 Wyn Jones
2 Ken Owens
3 Tomas Francis
4 Adam Beard
5 Alun Wyn Jones (Captain)
6 Aaron Wainwright
7 Justin Tipuric
8 Taulupe Faletau
9 Gareth Davies
10 Dan Biggar
11 Liam Williams
12 Nick Tompkins
13 Owen Watkin
14 Louis Rees-Zammit
15 Leigh Halfpenny

16 Elliot Dee
17 Rhodri Jones
18 Leon Brown
19 Will Rowlands
20 James Botham
21 Kieran Hardy
22 Callum Sheedy
23 Uilisi Halaholo

Recent Results

2017: SCO 29 - WAL 13
2018: WAL 34 - SCO 7 & WAL 21 - SCO 10
2019: SCO 11 - WAL 18
2020: WAL 10 - SCO 14

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:01

Scotland are slipping. Need to score next
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Post by tigertattie Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:03

Great pace by the old hooker there
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Post by tigertattie Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:03

Time to get Zander off. He’s just not controlling his aggression today
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Post by The Oracle Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:04

At least Wales are putting up a fight. I thought it was game over when Scotland went over for the non-try.
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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:04

Discipline has gone right out the window!

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:04

Fagerson potentially in trouble, not sure what to make of this one.

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Post by RiscaGame Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:05

The Oracle wrote:At least Wales are putting up a fight.  I thought it was game over when Scotland went over for the non-try.

Was thinking BP win for them, to be honest.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:05

Why? Why do it? He saw O’mahony getting binned. Utterly mad
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Post by king_carlos Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:05

Oh Zander. Why? Just why?

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Post by tigertattie Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:06

He’s off
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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:06

Another ruined game

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:06

Ouch. Fagerson just needed to get an inch lower.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:06

Another brainless action.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:07

Big call

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Post by RiscaGame Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:07

Clear out with an arm under the head. It’s not hard.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:07

Turning point was not passing the ball to Cummings, it’s look as if it could go Wales’ way now, seeing as we only beat 14-man teams...

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:08

That is a poor decisions.

Nothing like POM.

Yellow at most.
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Post by tigertattie Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:09

Just madness. One man’s idiocy costs a whole nation
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Post by The Oracle Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:09

I thought that challenge was OK.  No red for me.

Edit: I could just not be understanding the rules though .


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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:09

king_carlos wrote:Oh Zander. Why? Just why?

It's an active ruck. The player is moving. That's a harsh decision. He's trying to clear the man. You have to drive the player off the ruck and he's clearly wrapped his left arm, his right arm is down because he's trying to get his shoulder underneath Jones. We've got to work to remove contact with the head from the game as much as possible but that's a red card for someone trying to play the game.

Karl Dickson as TMO is never good he's barely capable as a ref.

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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:09

I give up. F**king hell.
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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:10

And that is why as a Scotland fan you can never allow yourself to truly believe!

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Post by hugehandoff Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:10

As a neutral that is harsh

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Post by BigGee Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:11

Gary Graham gets pulled, that might be his Scotland career done

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Post by king_carlos Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:11

I actually think the 'mitigation' of the player being lifted up made that better for Fagerson. If he doesn't shift up then Fagerson just dives into the top of his head, because he was lifted up it's more of glancing blow and looks better. A fair red in my opinion. Straight on his feet, arm in no position to bind and contact with the head.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:11

Harsh yes but all he had to do was not hit the head with his shoulder.

You can’t whack the head these days, simple as that
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Post by NeilyBroon Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:12

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:And that is why as a Scotland fan you can never allow yourself to truly believe!
Another opportunity butchered. Only way we know how. At least we won't get the spoon. So pi**ed off right now.
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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:12

I think most referees would have allowed the mitigating factor and given a yellow - as the TMO was angling for - but this referee was far stricter.

Probably game over unless Wales get a man in the bin in the next ten or so minutes.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:13

Well Scotland are still clearly in it. Strange game.

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Post by RiscaGame Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:14

tigertattie wrote:Harsh yes but all he had to do was not hit the head with his shoulder.

You can’t whack the head these days, simple as that

Exactly. At least try to tuck an arm under the body or something to move him.

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Post by englishborn Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:15

That was a clear red unfortunately. He was always going to hit the head, without any movement it was straight onto the head, with movement it still onto the head, silly all the way.

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Post by The Oracle Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:15

Don’t be disheartened Scotland, you saw how Wales struggled against 14 man Ireland last week.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:16

AWJ given a few penalties away today, none of which were penalties and he’s clearly being targeted...

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Post by tigertattie Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:17

Can Scotland still do this?

Can we?

Or is the hope going to kill us again?
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Post by TightHEAD Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:18

Take the points
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Post by king_carlos Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:18

mikey_dragon wrote:AWJ given a few penalties away today, none of which were penalties and he’s clearly being targeted...
I've never been in the AWJ being overrated camp. I think he's quality. But he's also absolutely blowing and that does lead to ill discipline. The ball has been in play a lot today and the Scotland second row have been more prominent. AWJ is coming off injury and limited game time. Tough game given that.

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Post by hugehandoff Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:19

Hoggy slightly more attacking minded than Farrell!

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Post by king_carlos Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:20

hugehandoff wrote:Hoggy slightly more attacking minded than Farrell!
That decision seemed to come from the renowned level head of Finn Russell looking at it live...

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:20

Bloody awful defence.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:21

Scotland the truly brave.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:21

There’s that hope again
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Post by king_carlos Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:21

Terrific finish from Hogg. Delivery when his side needs it.

Hugely important conversion this now.

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Post by The Oracle Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:21

Weak tackling from Wales. Absolutely balls weak.
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Post by RiscaGame Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:21

Garbage defence. One back less

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Post by Gooseberry Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:22

Game of the tournament by a mile so far. Loving it as a neutral

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Post by tigertattie Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:23

My heart ..........
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:23

king_carlos wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:AWJ given a few penalties away today, none of which were penalties and he’s clearly being targeted...
I've never been in the AWJ being overrated camp. I think he's quality. But he's also absolutely blowing and that does lead to ill discipline. The ball has been in play a lot today and the Scotland second row have been more prominent. AWJ is coming off injury and limited game time. Tough game given that.

In my opinion he milks his reputation as a captain to get away with what would see most players sin binned for accumulating penalties. Which is great if you can get away with it, he's very good at playing the ref. I think his physical abilities are starting to fade though he was top quality at his best so not overrated by the fans and coaches (unlike Farrell) but certainly overhyped by the media.

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Post by The Oracle Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:24

Liam Williams with Alun Wyn Jones outside him. FFS!
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Post by tigertattie Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:26

Talented boy is LRZ
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Post by Gooseberry Sun 14 Feb 2021, 05:26

Never been much of a Hogg fanboy but he's showing what all the fuss is about this tournament. Playing himself into the Lions starting berth surely.

Ha apparently my streams a couple of minutes behind, goosed by LRZ on the next play after crafting him out of a try!


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