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Post by MBTGOG Thu 04 Aug 2011, 8:59 am

15 - Rob Kearney (UCD/ Leinster)
14 - Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster)
13 - Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/ Leinster)
12 - Paddy Wallace (Ballymena/ Ulster)
11 - Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College/ Leinster)
10 - Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
9 - Tomas O'Leary (Dolphin/ Munster)
1 - Tom Court (Malone/Ulster)
2 - Sean Cronin (Leinster)
3 - Tony Buckley (Sale)
4 - Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster)
5 - Leo Cullen (Blackrock College/Leinster) Captain
6 - Mike McCarthy (Buccaneers/ Connacht)*
7 - Niall Ronan (Shannon/ Munster)
8 - Denis Leamy (Cork Constitution/Munster)

Replacements:
16 - Jerry Flannery (Shannon/ Munster)
17 - Marcus Horan (Shannon/Munster)
18 - John Hayes (Bruff/Munster)
19 - Mick O'Driscoll (Cork Constitution/ Munster)
20 - Kevin McLaughlin (St Mary's College/ Leinster)
21 - Isaac Boss (Terenure College/ Leinster)
22 - Felix Jones (Shannon/ Munster)*


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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu 04 Aug 2011, 9:08 am

Yes, sir!

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Thu 04 Aug 2011, 9:09 am

I think it should be named Reg. I like the name Reg.
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Post by WillyGilly Thu 04 Aug 2011, 9:11 am

Mark. Hoping for a nice surprise i.e fez starting. Believe.
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Thu 04 Aug 2011, 9:29 am

I hope Ireland will have their 1st choice backrow out there. Having a fully fit Heaslip/O'Brian and Ferris will be the best way to test if Beattie is back to match fitness and let us see how Ross Rennie can last 80 minutes against world class opposite numbers.
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Post by MBTGOG Thu 04 Aug 2011, 9:42 am

I'm predicting a lot of upset Irish poster bashing Kidney for his awful selection then about 300 posts arguing some small and silly point which has very little bearing on the game.


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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 04 Aug 2011, 9:48 am

MBTGOG wrote:I'm predicting a lot of upset Irish poster bashing Kidney for his awful selection then about 300 posts arguing some small and silly point which has very little bearing on the game.


I can see it too, people seem to gloss over the fact that this is a "warm up". Sigh!

I think our backs could look quite tasty I don't expect a very strong pack though.

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Post by thebandwagonsociety Thu 04 Aug 2011, 9:56 am

MBTGOG wrote:I'm predicting a lot of upset Irish poster bashing Kidney for his awful selection then about 300 posts arguing some small and silly point which has very little bearing on the game.


Getting frustrated with some of the content on v2 MBTGOG? I'm inclined to agree with you, it's the offseason and restless rugby nuts (like myself) are jumping down the throat of a lot of opinions made about silly points.

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 04 Aug 2011, 9:59 am

thebandwagonsociety wrote:
MBTGOG wrote:I'm predicting a lot of upset Irish poster bashing Kidney for his awful selection then about 300 posts arguing some small and silly point which has very little bearing on the game.


Getting frustrated with some of the content on v2 MBTGOG? I'm inclined to agree with you, it's the offseason and restless rugby nuts (like myself) are jumping down the throat of a lot of opinions made about silly points.

The Irish content yes. 3/400 posts on Irish rugby topics and nothing much has ever been discussed apart from O'Leary's passing, Paddy Wallace's limitations, Denis Leamy's discipline and just how bad Fitzgerald is.

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Post by clivemcl Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:01 am

I'm going to make a ridiculous prediction. Wallace and Cave in centres! haha, i don't believe in making sensible guesses, theres no fun in that!

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:04 am

MBTGOG wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:
MBTGOG wrote:I'm predicting a lot of upset Irish poster bashing Kidney for his awful selection then about 300 posts arguing some small and silly point which has very little bearing on the game.


Getting frustrated with some of the content on v2 MBTGOG? I'm inclined to agree with you, it's the offseason and restless rugby nuts (like myself) are jumping down the throat of a lot of opinions made about silly points.

The Irish content yes. 3/400 posts on Irish rugby topics and nothing much has ever been discussed apart from O'Leary's passing, Paddy Wallace's limitations, Denis Leamy's discipline and just how bad Fitzgerald is.

It would be nice to move on from all of that, it is off season so people are bored, the thing that wrecks my head is my provinces 10 is better than your provinces 10 etc.
Would be nice to look at up and coming players for 2015 and talk about more stuff in the IRFU rather than just the Irish team and extended squad

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Post by dubh_linn Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:05 am

I'm expecting a pretty scrappy match, lots of mistakes, knock ons etc as mentioned above it is a warm up game and the first one at that ...so I'm not expecting a feast of free flowing attacking rugby.

As for the result, i expect a pretty close contest with ireland edging it by 3 points but this match for me is all about getting the players ticking over and the start of getting match fitness ( and testing/renewing combinatins) in the build up to the world cup.

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Post by clivemcl Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:05 am

As long as we get a look at some of the will they/won't they players. some of Murray/Jones/McFadden/Cave/Kearney to get a chance to show they should go.

I will go mad if we put out our best possible XV. FIRST warm up game!

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:08 am

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
MBTGOG wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:
MBTGOG wrote:I'm predicting a lot of upset Irish poster bashing Kidney for his awful selection then about 300 posts arguing some small and silly point which has very little bearing on the game.


Getting frustrated with some of the content on v2 MBTGOG? I'm inclined to agree with you, it's the offseason and restless rugby nuts (like myself) are jumping down the throat of a lot of opinions made about silly points.

The Irish content yes. 3/400 posts on Irish rugby topics and nothing much has ever been discussed apart from O'Leary's passing, Paddy Wallace's limitations, Denis Leamy's discipline and just how bad Fitzgerald is.

It would be nice to move on from all of that, it is off season so people are bored, the thing that wrecks my head is my provinces 10 is better than your provinces 10 etc.
Would be nice to look at up and coming players for 2015 and talk about more stuff in the IRFU rather than just the Irish team and extended squad

Start a topic on those things so.


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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:12 am

I was going to after the scottish game stuff dies down probably about tuesday I'd say just it will get snowed over otherwise.

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Post by rodders Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:13 am

I think we'll see something like:

Court, Cronin, Hayes
Ryan, Cullen
McLaughlin,Leamy, O'Brien

TOL, Sexton,
Fitzgerald, Wallace, McFadden, Trimble
Jones/Kearney

I think Kidney will be keen to assess some of the "possibles" i.e. those who are in contention for the final couple of spots in the squad. I'd say 99% of the squad has already been decided and I think we'll see something closer to the test squad in the French and English games.


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Post by MBTGOG Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:16 am

Rodders,

I don't want to seem like a pedant but I've seen you write it a few times. It is spelled McLaughlin.


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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:20 am

Not sure I can see SOB playing, he's had a pretty tough long season.

I think the bench will be particularily interesting.
Any idea what time it is announced at? And if it is streamed live?

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Post by rodders Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:23 am

OK then Pete what do you think for openside? Is Wallace or Jennings available?

It's live on BBC2, I'm not sure if you can get that?
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:27 am

Most Irish have BBC2 I am pretty sure.

Openside could be Chris Henry maybe Wallace. Think Jennings is a week behind in pre-season although I can't be 100% on that one.

Would be handy to see Jennings and Leamy playing together in 1 match.

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Post by clivemcl Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:29 am

Come on Munster, who cares about name spelling. I don't even get worked up by spellings, and McLaughlin is MY surname!

Yea its on BBC2, which is great for us Northerners, south of the border you could get it on bbc online if you got a proxy or something!

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Post by clivemcl Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:31 am

Whats the deal with BBC anyway, can you get it in the republic? RTE can be picked up in parts of the country up here!

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:32 am

clivemcl wrote:Come on Munster, who cares about name spelling.

Me obviously.


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Post by Thomond Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:36 am

Rog has to start Run

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Post by clivemcl Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:36 am

MBTGOG wrote:
clivemcl wrote:Come on Munster, who cares about name spelling.

Me obviously.


Then unfortunatly you have failed in your efforts not to 'seem like a pedant'. Run

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Post by ballroomhero Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:50 am

Can't find the quote but someone mentioned Cave playing but as far as I know, he's not in the reckoning for the RWC?

I'd like to see Leamy play 8 with Jennings at 7. Six is up in the air!

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:54 am

clivemcl wrote:
MBTGOG wrote:
clivemcl wrote:Come on Munster, who cares about name spelling.

Me obviously.


Then unfortunatly you have failed in your efforts not to 'seem like a pedant'. Run

I can live with that.


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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:56 am

ballroomhero wrote:Can't find the quote but someone mentioned Cave playing but as far as I know, he's not in the reckoning for the RWC?

I'd like to see Leamy play 8 with Jennings at 7. Six is up in the air!

I'd like to see that backrow too with kev McLaughlin at 6. Possibly Henry on the bench.

I like Cave a lot I have to say but don't see the point in playing him really if he isn't in contention for the 30 man squad when players like McFadden, Earls and even Duffy are.

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Post by MMC Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:58 am

clivemcl wrote:Whats the deal with BBC anyway, can you get it in the republic? RTE can be picked up in parts of the country up here!

I installed a shiny new freesat box in my new place last night. Works a treat and picks up all the BBCs (including HD), ITVs, Channel 4 and its variations. One off cost for perfect picture, plus all the regional variations so I get to watch Ulster and the regions when the Pro12 starts too. Very Happy

Delighted to hear this one is being televised. I was getting worried there for a while.

I agree with pete, I can't see SOB featuring in this one at all. He looked jaded in the ML final, moreso than anyone really. Considering the effort he put into the season just gone I can see him being "rested" - if that's the right word considering no-one's played since May.

Anyone know if there'll be a video stream for the announcement? I know they normally do it for the 6 Nations games, maybe not these though.
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Post by ballroomhero Thu 04 Aug 2011, 10:59 am

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
ballroomhero wrote:Can't find the quote but someone mentioned Cave playing but as far as I know, he's not in the reckoning for the RWC?

I'd like to see Leamy play 8 with Jennings at 7. Six is up in the air!

I'd like to see that backrow too with kev McLaughlin at 6. Possibly Henry on the bench.

I like Cave a lot I have to say but don't see the point in playing him really if he isn't in contention for the 30 man squad when players like McFadden, Earls and even Duffy are.

Agreed. His problem, I guess (if you can call it that) is he's probably an out and out 13?

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Post by ballroomhero Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:02 am

MMC wrote:
clivemcl wrote:Whats the deal with BBC anyway, can you get it in the republic? RTE can be picked up in parts of the country up here!

I installed a shiny new freesat box in my new place last night. Works a treat and picks up all the BBCs (including HD), ITVs, Channel 4 and its variations. One off cost for perfect picture, plus all the regional variations so I get to watch Ulster and the regions when the Pro12 starts too. Very Happy

Delighted to hear this one is being televised. I was getting worried there for a while.

I agree with pete, I can't see SOB featuring in this one at all. He looked jaded in the ML final, moreso than anyone really. Considering the effort he put into the season just gone I can see him being "rested" - if that's the right word considering no-one's played since May.

Anyone know if there'll be a video stream for the announcement? I know they normally do it for the 6 Nations games, maybe not these though.

I didn't know there was a box with all the beeb's regions. Where'd you get that from?

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:04 am

MMC wrote:.

I agree with pete, I can't see SOB featuring in this one at all. He looked jaded in the ML final, moreso than anyone really. Considering the effort he put into the season just gone I can see him being "rested" - if that's the right word considering no-one's played since May.

I am applying to TG4 for a commentary position and was doing a few pracitse showreels. I saw the HCup final tape and I thought yeah will try that, so did the first 5 mins of the second half (obviously! Very Happy ).

The amount of time SOB carried the ball within 5 mins is actually terrifying! I encourage everyone to go and watch those first 5 minutes, every second ruck he carries at times and it always takes 2 guys to take him down if not more.

Point is, that I think he was jaded in the ML for a good reason and would actually prefer him not to be playing in this game

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:04 am

MBTGOG wrote:
clivemcl wrote:
MBTGOG wrote:
clivemcl wrote:Come on Munster, who cares about name spelling.

Me obviously.


Then unfortunatly you have failed in your efforts not to 'seem like a pedant'. Run

I can live with that.


Class, pulled up on the correcting the spelling of McLaughlin by a guy called Clive McLaughlin Smile

I'm a bit of a pedant myself, the amount of "Irish" posters who can't spell Connacht........

Anyway. Back row is interesting. Lack of 7s (and too many 6s) is always an issue for Ireland. Jennings not ready with his elbow. Wallace possibly a week behind. SOB the same (imho 7 is his worst position of the 3) Henry looks like he may get a run but he is not really a 7 either. Probably better at 8 or even 6.

The Only reason SOB plays 7 is he is a little too short and heavy for the lineout, so a taller 6 get's a go.

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:05 am

ballroomhero wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
ballroomhero wrote:Can't find the quote but someone mentioned Cave playing but as far as I know, he's not in the reckoning for the RWC?

I'd like to see Leamy play 8 with Jennings at 7. Six is up in the air!

I'd like to see that backrow too with kev McLaughlin at 6. Possibly Henry on the bench.

I like Cave a lot I have to say but don't see the point in playing him really if he isn't in contention for the 30 man squad when players like McFadden, Earls and even Duffy are.

Agreed. His problem, I guess (if you can call it that) is he's probably an out and out 13?

And he was out for so long, he lost out on his best chance to impress.


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Post by MMC Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:05 am

ballroomhero wrote:
MMC wrote:
clivemcl wrote:Whats the deal with BBC anyway, can you get it in the republic? RTE can be picked up in parts of the country up here!

I installed a shiny new freesat box in my new place last night. Works a treat and picks up all the BBCs (including HD), ITVs, Channel 4 and its variations. One off cost for perfect picture, plus all the regional variations so I get to watch Ulster and the regions when the Pro12 starts too. Very Happy

Delighted to hear this one is being televised. I was getting worried there for a while.

I agree with pete, I can't see SOB featuring in this one at all. He looked jaded in the ML final, moreso than anyone really. Considering the effort he put into the season just gone I can see him being "rested" - if that's the right word considering no-one's played since May.

Anyone know if there'll be a video stream for the announcement? I know they normally do it for the 6 Nations games, maybe not these though.

I didn't know there was a box with all the beeb's regions. Where'd you get that from?

I got it from Amazon. It was about £90, maybe a touch under. I just hooked it up to an existing Sky dish (you can buy your own kit for ~£30 though, easy to install too since it doesn't have to be up high) and I was up and running in minutes. Very easy.
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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:07 am

ballroomhero wrote:
MMC wrote:
clivemcl wrote:Whats the deal with BBC anyway, can you get it in the republic? RTE can be picked up in parts of the country up here!

I installed a shiny new freesat box in my new place last night. Works a treat and picks up all the BBCs (including HD), ITVs, Channel 4 and its variations. One off cost for perfect picture, plus all the regional variations so I get to watch Ulster and the regions when the Pro12 starts too. Very Happy

Delighted to hear this one is being televised. I was getting worried there for a while.

I agree with pete, I can't see SOB featuring in this one at all. He looked jaded in the ML final, moreso than anyone really. Considering the effort he put into the season just gone I can see him being "rested" - if that's the right word considering no-one's played since May.

Anyone know if there'll be a video stream for the announcement? I know they normally do it for the 6 Nations games, maybe not these though.

I didn't know there was a box with all the beeb's regions. Where'd you get that from?

Any satellite box will pick them up (Inc Sky) With Sky they are not on the epg. you have to go into other channels.

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Post by MMC Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:07 am

I wouldn't like to see us play a backrow of something like McLaughlin - Henry - Leamy. I think it'd be far too weak against that Scottish backrow. Rennie would have a field day on the floor against Henry.
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Post by Thomond Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:07 am

MMC, remember S4C can be put into English!

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Post by MBTGOG Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:08 am

MMC wrote:I wouldn't like to see us play a backrow of something like McLaughlin - Henry - Leamy. I think it'd be far too weak against that Scottish backrow. Rennie would have a field day on the floor against Henry.

Who would you go with at 7 then?


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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:10 am

Thomond wrote:MMC, remember S4C can be put into English!
but you can't pre record it in English. You have to be there to switch via red button and record out to dvd recorder or whatever

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:10 am

MBTGOG wrote:
MMC wrote:I wouldn't like to see us play a backrow of something like McLaughlin - Henry - Leamy. I think it'd be far too weak against that Scottish backrow. Rennie would have a field day on the floor against Henry.

Who would you go with at 7 then?

Niall Ronan! Smile 🤦

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Post by MMC Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:11 am

I can see us having little choice but to play Wallace there. Like I said earlier, I'd rest O'Brien for it. Of course, I'm not in the camp so maybe O'Brien is raring to go.

I'd imagine the backrow will end up being the one I named in the post above, but I think it'd be a silly move on the coaching staff's part. It'd have a massive knock on effect on the rest of the team and I could easily see us losing the match as a result.
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Post by clivemcl Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:23 am

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clivemcl wrote:Whats the deal with BBC anyway, can you get it in the republic? RTE can be picked up in parts of the country up here!

I installed a shiny new freesat box in my new place last night. Works a treat and picks up all the BBCs (including HD), ITVs, Channel 4 and its variations. One off cost for perfect picture, plus all the regional variations so I get to watch Ulster and the regions when the Pro12 starts too. Very Happy

Delighted to hear this one is being televised. I was getting worried there for a while.

I agree with pete, I can't see SOB featuring in this one at all. He looked jaded in the ML final, moreso than anyone really. Considering the effort he put into the season just gone I can see him being "rested" - if that's the right word considering no-one's played since May.

Anyone know if there'll be a video stream for the announcement? I know they normally do it for the 6 Nations games, maybe not these though.

I'm just about to get rif of my BT Vision box, and was going to go for a regular freeview recorder box. But the Freesat sounds the biz, with all the seperate region options! I wonder if it will give me RTE if it gives you BBC??

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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:26 am

Geordan Murphy has been released back to Tigers so he can play in their friendly on Monday night. Making sure he gets some training in with them before hand and some game time before returning to the Ireland squad.

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:29 am

I've just binned sky and bought a Humax freesat recorder. Tis ace, obviously fewer channels but much better quality picture. Don't get RTE or the Sky sports though but there are certain websites...
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:33 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:Geordan Murphy has been released back to Tigers so he can play in their friendly on Monday night. Making sure he gets some training in with them before hand and some game time before returning to the Ireland squad.

Woah. Means 2 of Kearney, Jones and earls are in the 22 so.

Is the friendly on Monday on tv at all?

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Post by MMC Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:36 am

clivemcl wrote:
MMC wrote:
clivemcl wrote:Whats the deal with BBC anyway, can you get it in the republic? RTE can be picked up in parts of the country up here!

I installed a shiny new freesat box in my new place last night. Works a treat and picks up all the BBCs (including HD), ITVs, Channel 4 and its variations. One off cost for perfect picture, plus all the regional variations so I get to watch Ulster and the regions when the Pro12 starts too. Very Happy

Delighted to hear this one is being televised. I was getting worried there for a while.

I agree with pete, I can't see SOB featuring in this one at all. He looked jaded in the ML final, moreso than anyone really. Considering the effort he put into the season just gone I can see him being "rested" - if that's the right word considering no-one's played since May.

Anyone know if there'll be a video stream for the announcement? I know they normally do it for the 6 Nations games, maybe not these though.

I'm just about to get rif of my BT Vision box, and was going to go for a regular freeview recorder box. But the Freesat sounds the biz, with all the seperate region options! I wonder if it will give me RTE if it gives you BBC??

Am I correct in saying that Freeview can be picked up via aerial? In RoI and some parts of NI (mainly south Down, south Armagh etc) you can pick up Saorview which is Ireland's version of Freeview. The thing about Freesat (and Freeview) is that it doesn't provide you with the RoI terrestrial channels (RTE, TV3, TG4). You'd need Saorview for this, and as I said, you have to be pretty much on the border to have a chance of picking that up.

I would fully recommend Freesat over Freeview though given that apart from the extra cost of the dish you get all the regional variations, plus a better picture.
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Post by Thomond Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:37 am

Some freesat boxes allow you the option of adding channels which can be done if you have the right frequencies.

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Post by geoff998rugby Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:39 am

I get Freeview via an Ariel in the North and will be watching the game through that method

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Post by MMC Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:43 am

Thomond wrote:Some freesat boxes allow you the option of adding channels which can be done if you have the right frequencies.

Exactly. All the frequencies are available online. It's just a case of making sure you're pointed at the right satellite(s). Astra 2D mainly, and Eurobird 1 should be the ones you need. As far as I know Sky News is available for free as a non-Freesat channel which you have to tune in manually.

If Murphy has been released it's almost certain that it'll be Kearney to start with Jones on the bench. Do people see Earls featuring in this one? I doubt it.
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